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Playing catch-up after a week in Disney....

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That was a cool episode. I actually liked their explanation for the different Kryptonite. Although, from my comic book lore, doesn't red K have to be in continuous contact to keep affecting them?

Loved J'onn revealing himself and taking on Supergirl at the end.

Was it just me, or did evil Kara look an awful lot like her deceased aunt?


Aberzombie wrote:

Playing catch-up after a week in Disney....

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replytospolier:
In comics, red K's affect wore off with time, but continuous contact was not needed. It was Smallville that required continuous contact IIRC.

I also had the impression of Supergirl looking a bit like Astra. An effect of makeup?

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They definitely changed her outfit and hair style to mimic Astra's. The actress also changed the tone of her voice. Not sure about anything else. Pretty effective illusion overall though.

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Corathonv2 wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

Playing catch-up after a week in Disney....

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Ah, thanks for the clarification on red K. It's been awhile since I red any Superman comics.


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CHOCOS!!!!!

:D

Seriously, that was another great episode.

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The whole backstory with Jeremiah Danvers is amazing, the changes with Alex and J'onn heading out to find Project: Cadmus and Lucy Lane in charge of the DEO are huge, and I really want to see the explanation for the Silver Banshee's powers.

...and next week the FLASH!!!!

This show is ratcheting it up for the season finale. I am really loving it.


I do find it funny that

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"Project Cadmus" is the go-to boogeyman for any DC show that needs a group of people secretly up to no good.

That being said, I enjoyed the episode and am interested with where they're going with the shakeup to various characters.

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Project Cadmus has always been a secretive Boogieman since its inception. Well, at least i think. i seem to remember Cadmus being good under the helm of Guardian and the pack of kids that were clones of scientists that worked there... or am i just confused... this was back in the 70s, early 80s.

In any case, the newest Supergirl was fan-tastic. Really looking forward to the crossover with CW's Flash nest week.

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Some interesting developments…

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Starting with Siobahn/(soon-to-be)Silver Banshee. It’ll be interesting to see how they go into the origin of her powers. It looked almost like she was just as surprised. I hope they keep the mystical aspect of it.

Loved the flash backs with J’onn. The scene at the campfire was really cool. I look forward to the eventual battle with Project Cadmus, and the revelation of what has become of Jeremiah Danvers. I wonder what other superheroes/villains they’ll use Cadmus for as a means of introduction. Maybe they’ll have the real Hank Henshaw/Cyborg as the director of Cadmus.

And the scene with the Chocos! Priceless!!! MARS NEEDS CHOCOS!!!!

It’ll be interesting to see where they go from here with the DEO. Lucy Lane in charge, plus the burgeoning relationship between James and Kara, should make for fun times.

I loved the preview for next week’s episode with Flash. I’m really looking forward to that.


Great episode, and some great reveals, though I hope that Mr. Danvers doesn't end up being a villain.


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Great episode, and some great reveals, though I hope that Mr. Danvers doesn't end up being a villain.

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I'm thinking Cyborg Superman with him and Cadmus becoming the Big Bads for Season 2

Show has been pretty good as they pull away from the Monster of the Week.

Fort Roz will probably wrap up with this season and It looks to me like Cadmus is being set up as the Bad for season 2

but

just want to put this out there

if they are looking for a Big Bad for future seasons

Betty White as Granny Goodness


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As great as that would be, I'd rather they not get into the whole Apokolips thing. It's a logical extension of the DEO's defense against alien threats, but a Darkseid-backed invasion is something you want multiple superheroes fighting, not just one backed up by agents with hand-to-hand training and a few pulse rifles or whatever.

"We've trained for this" is BS. The DEO's armory is mostly theoretical; we have no real idea of what's in it. The field agents don't appear to wear much protective gear, and have zero enhanced mobility (can't fly, or even move fast)...how are they supposed to deal with mere parademons, much less anything bigger?

Unlike the Arrowverse, where they can bring together Team Arrow, Team Flash, ATOM, Vixen, Constantine, and even the odd assassin or villain as needed to assist in a big fight, Supergirl is largely on her own.

And that's fine, but argues against bringing in any really large threats. You can of course have Granny Goodness or Glorious Godfrey on their own...but without Darkseid/Apokolips, what's the payoff?


Yeah, I was thinking Mr. Danvers

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might end up being "Cyborg Superman" as well, since Henshaw isn't and Dean Cain was Superman previously.

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Hama wrote:
CAn't wait for the Flash crossover.

Yeah, should be interesting. I'm a bit surprised that they didn't have an explanation for how he gets to Supergirl's world at the end of the last episode of The Flash though. That suggests the scene of him departing 'Flashverse' will either be aired AFTER the scene of him arriving in 'Supergirlverse'... or not at all.

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Kalshane wrote:

Yeah, I was thinking Mr. Danvers

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But....

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The real Henshaw could, in theory, still be Cyborg Superman. They never show his dead body. And it might fight the character of Cadmus better with him running it. Plus, it would explain why Poppa Danvers was possibly being experimented on in J'onn's mental scan.

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I'm a bit surprised that they didn't have an explanation for how he gets to Supergirl's world at the end of the last episode of The Flash though. That suggests the scene of him departing 'Flashverse' will either be aired AFTER the scene of him arriving in 'Supergirlverse'... or not at all.

Yeah. He ran back to the waterfall canyon he's tried jumping before, so maybe he tries again and gets more speed...but that seems anticlimactic after already jumping the ruined bridge in town.

I have a vague memory of hearing something that made me think the treadmill at STAR was going to play a part in this, but no sign of that here. And either way, as you say, we should have seen something at the end of this episode.

Perhaps we did, and just don't realize it. Perhaps the waterfall canyon he ran to isn't the one he was at before, but a corresponding one in Supergirl's universe. He was mad, running fast, not really paying attention. Perhaps he calms down, runs back to town at a more normal pace, and finds he's not in Kansas -- er, Missouri -- any more.

Doesn't seem likely. That seems like it would put Central City and National City in roughly similar positions geographically, and my impression has been that National City is West Coast.


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Greylurker wrote:
Betty White as Granny Goodness

As great as that would be, I'd rather they not get into the whole Apokolips thing. It's a logical extension of the DEO's defense against alien threats, but a Darkseid-backed invasion is something you want multiple superheroes fighting, not just one backed up by agents with hand-to-hand training and a few pulse rifles or whatever.

"We've trained for this" is BS. The DEO's armory is mostly theoretical; we have no real idea of what's in it. The field agents don't appear to wear much protective gear, and have zero enhanced mobility (can't fly, or even move fast)...how are they supposed to deal with mere parademons, much less anything bigger?

Unlike the Arrowverse, where they can bring together Team Arrow, Team Flash, ATOM, Vixen, Constantine, and even the odd assassin or villain as needed to assist in a big fight, Supergirl is largely on her own.

And that's fine, but argues against bringing in any really large threats. You can of course have Granny Goodness or Glorious Godfrey on their own...but without Darkseid/Apokolips, what's the payoff?

I was thinking less Darkside invasion and more, Supergirl wanted as a Fury.

Make it about her being targeted by Granny who wants to take her, break her and reshape her into a weapon against Earth.

make it very personal and in some ways very scary.


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CBDunkerson wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that they didn't have an explanation for how he gets to Supergirl's world at the end of the last episode of The Flash though. That suggests the scene of him departing 'Flashverse' will either be aired AFTER the scene of him arriving in 'Supergirlverse'... or not at all.

Yeah. He ran back to the waterfall canyon he's tried jumping before, so maybe he tries again and gets more speed...but that seems anticlimactic after already jumping the ruined bridge in town.

I have a vague memory of hearing something that made me think the treadmill at STAR was going to play a part in this, but no sign of that here. And either way, as you say, we should have seen something at the end of this episode.

Perhaps we did, and just don't realize it. Perhaps the waterfall canyon he ran to isn't the one he was at before, but a corresponding one in Supergirl's universe. He was mad, running fast, not really paying attention. Perhaps he calms down, runs back to town at a more normal pace, and finds he's not in Kansas -- er, Missouri -- any more.

Doesn't seem likely. That seems like it would put Central City and National City in roughly similar positions geographically, and my impression has been that National City is West Coast.

If you look at the promo videos for the crossover you see he has some sort of device strapped on him in some scenes. I'm guessing that's the portal device

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Man... I love this show so much. (Disclaimer, I may be the biggest Supergirl fan you ever meet. So much so that highlights of my life include meeting and getting a Supergirl sketch from George Perez and meeting and recreating the Crisis on Infinite Earths #7 cover with Dean Cain). It's just so amazing to see my favorite character done so perfectly on screen.

I can't stop watching the Sneak Peeks for next week's episode, it's going to be so awesome.


CBDunkerson wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that they didn't have an explanation for how he gets to Supergirl's world at the end of the last episode of The Flash though. That suggests the scene of him departing 'Flashverse' will either be aired AFTER the scene of him arriving in 'Supergirlverse'... or not at all.

I suspect they want this crossover to be completely self-contained. If this becomes a regular thing (and *both* shows prove to have legs), they may open it up a bit in the future.

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CBS renews 11 shows (Supergirl isn't one of them, yet)

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So what happened since this was reported?


I've heard they're already making plans to have Lynda Carter in season 2.... so with the rumors like that, I think they're fairly confident.

Limitless is the one I'm worried about... I want that back SO BAD!

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That first report was simply Moonves saying that he was confident that the shows would be renewed, not official confirmation that they have been. The ratings have still been good, though faltering a little in the last few weeks, so it's not time to start worrying. Both TV By the Numbers and TV Grim Reaper have it as a near certain pickup for next year.


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If it does get cancelled, I'm in favour of sending the CBS execs in charge of programming a box of pugwampis and a horde of goblins.

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I'm gonna be so lost in tonight's episode. I've missed like the last four or five episodes and only got spoilers recaps.


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ok that was good simple fun.

a little over the top when the crowd came to the rescue

and any doubts I had about Cat knowing Kara is Supergirl have vanished. She knows and she enjoys toying with her about it.


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The crowd rescue was a bit much. It was much more organic and believable in Spiderman 2...though of course there the subway riders weren't risking anything.

I did like

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the firemen shorting out Livewire and telling Supergirl it was their turn. Builds continuity and neatly eliminates the need for the costumed metahuman/alien to give the "first responders are the real heroes" speech.

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K: "Miss Grant, I'm OK. I was saved..."

C: "Of course you were, you're here aren't you?"

The nonchalance and complete lack of worry for Kara flying out of a window completely reinforces Cat being aware of her identity.

As an aside, I'm surprised that Siobhan, with all of her hate fuel for Kara totally didn't figure it out when Winnzone "knows Supergirl?"

+1000 for Flash giving the cops a meta-human jail.

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This episode had me off the rails. So much wonderfulness. THIS is the superhero crossover we deserved this week.


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Last night was great. Also the timing made me think that it was almost a deliberate middle finger from the showrunners to the movie people, especially the ending.

And yeah...I totally got the vibe that Cat knows who Supergirl is, but is playing along.


archmagi1 wrote:
+1000 for Flash giving the cops a meta-human jail.

Blueprints for one, at best. Unlikely they had all the necessary materials handy, plus a location picked out, so that he could actually build a STAR-style containment facility at superspeed.

But yeah, nice that supercrooks no longer need to be "disappeared" to the secret DEO facility they keep bringing uncleared people to.

This was fun. Now I want annual Earth-CW/Earth-CBS crossovers, honoring the JLA-JSA annual crossover events in comics.


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Actually I really liked

DEO stuff:
how the DEO agents all had their guns out at Barry...but when Kara spoke up for him, they all lowered their guns—behind Lucy's back! :D

I also thought they did an excellent job of integrating the crossover into Kara's storyline. I didn't feel forced to me.

One complaint: this episode had too much going on. It needed almost an extra 15 minutes to half-hour to really make all the points hit solid.


Great episode though I was disappointed how pointless the Flash was in the final fight.

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That was a cool episode….

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Flash and Supergirl – For the WIN!!! Loved seeing the interactions between the two, from the first moment when Barry rescued her and almost put out the fire on her chest. They quickly fell into a nice superhero camaraderie that was refreshing to see. As other folks are pointing out, it was a stark contrast to the grimness of Batman v Superman.

And it was nice to see Barry in the role of mentor. It fit him well. And I loved seeing him away from Team Flash but still being able to come up with some tech to combat one of the villains. It’s a nice change from Barry typically being reliant on Cisco or Caitlin for his science back-up.

The storyline was, of course, a little too convenient (as is typical for comic book stories). Just as the Flash shows up, Silver Banshee decides to bust Live Wire out for a team-up. Still, I like the way they did Silver Banshee. I’m guessing next time she shows up, Kara will fake her own death to try and short circuit her powers.

Not too thrilled about the citizens coming to the hero’s aid at the end. Too Spider-manish. Although I did like the way the fire fighters took down Livewire.

Cat Grant continues to be a highlight of the show. The dry humor and sarcasm are fun to watch. And her comment about the CW (“You look like the attractive yet non-threatening, racially diverse cast of a CW show.”) was f@$*ing hilarious.

All in all, I look forward to seeing more of these interactions. It shows some serious potential for DC to have a vast TV multiverse, utilizing a lot of characters you might not normally see on the big screen. I’d love to see more. Maybe a Checkmate series. Or Challengers of the Unknown. A Firestorm solo series would be cool. Or Dr. Fate. There’s a lot of possibility.

Flash was faster.


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Anyone else catch the Smallville reference to the blur?

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Loved the episode, not sure I have anything to add that wasn't already said though.

I do hope that on tonight's Flash they make a reference to Barry having discovered Earth-3, and actually say what the gizmo on his chest was that let him cross the dimensional barrier. Even better if they make a reference to Cisco working on nailing down the frequency for Earth-3 so that in the future they'll have that for their next crossover.


Duncan7291 wrote:
Anyone else catch the Smallville reference to the blur?

Oops. Right. I misremembered Barry having been called The Blur by the media in his first few appearances. But was The Streak or The Red Streak.

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OK, so concurrently with this episode, Boomerang ran a cartoon special "DC Super Hero Girls: Super Hero High." I recorded it because my 4 year old adores superheroes (even if she can't sit through any of Supergirl where Kara is Kara).

It was craaaaap, but my kid ate it up. She, of course, didn't get any of the hundreds of DC referential jokes (I swear that Barbara Gordon got off like 15 bat/batgirl jokes and gags prior to Supergirl dubbing her Batgirl), but all the action was right up her Teen Titans Go! alley. I can understand tossing a bunch of villains (Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Grodd) into Super Hero High, but it felt odd that Beast Boy (with his TT voice actor) was in the two super fights prior to the finale bit in a show called Super Hero Girls.

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And when he got the newly arrived Supergirl to look his way, he morphed into a rooster, and started strutting. "*swoon with heart eyes* She looked at me! *morph* Oh yeah! That's how I do! Oh yeah!" Hilarious bit of mature humor tossed in there. This is basically TTG! Beast Boy drawn in old TT style, and is amazing.

But the reason I bring it up is how contrasting it was to Benoist's Supergirl. All the clumsy from Supergirl episode 1 was elevated into the x10 range. "But Superman had his whole life to get used to his powers. I just landed four weeks ago!" *wah wah* *clumsy gag* "Sorey." Her sheer ineptitude, while the plot of the entire special to a degree, was a bit annoying after watching the idyllic Supergirl nerd raging over the Flash immediately prior.

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Now I really want to see Barry come back to this Earth so he can meet J'onn. I think that would be fun to watch.


This episode was a lot of fun. The overall plot was a little weak but it was still a joy to watch.

Apparently Flash is a couple episodes behind, so we'll see Barry leave/return later in the season.

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I adored Supergirl's reaction when Barry fetched them all ice cream. She was positively delighted.

Also bonus points for Winn for laying some major BURN smackdown no James.

And I still continue to LOVE Calista Flochart in this. Honestly, she is perfect.

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"You look like a racially diverse members of a CW show", i guwaffed at that


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Cori Marie wrote:
This episode had me off the rails. So much wonderfulness. THIS is the superhero crossover we deserved this week.

He he he :)


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K: "Miss Grant, I'm OK. I was saved..."

C: "Of course you were, you're here aren't you?"

The nonchalance and complete lack of worry for Kara flying out of a window completely reinforces Cat being aware of her identity.

As an aside, I'm surprised that Siobhan, with all of her hate fuel for Kara totally didn't figure it out when Winnzone "knows Supergirl?"

+1000 for Flash giving the cops a meta-human jail.

Or it may be a matter of complete self absorption, because didn't Kara pull a successful illusion of Kara Danvers and Supergirl being in the same room on her?


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That was some of the best TV I've seen in years. What a profoundly excellent episode!

Grant and Melissa were amazing together!

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I do not get a chance to watch a lot of TV but this episode was a lot of fun. The show really portrayed the fun and enjoyment that can come with being friends.


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archmagi1 wrote:

K: "Miss Grant, I'm OK. I was saved..."

C: "Of course you were, you're here aren't you?"

The nonchalance and complete lack of worry for Kara flying out of a window completely reinforces Cat being aware of her identity.

As an aside, I'm surprised that Siobhan, with all of her hate fuel for Kara totally didn't figure it out when Winnzone "knows Supergirl?"

+1000 for Flash giving the cops a meta-human jail.

Or it may be a matter of complete self absorption, because didn't Kara pull a successful illusion of Kara Danvers and Supergirl being in the same room on her?

This is what I choose to believe till proved otherwise. Her arrogance really does know no bounds.

As a major fan of the secret Identity genre... it really frustrates me when everyone figures them out immediately.

Her figuring out Barry was ridiculous. So in all of National City... he's the ONLY person who was new in town that day?


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Kara and Manhunter pulled off the shapeshifting trick, but a few weeks ago it was pretty much revealed to the world that a good shapeshifting alien was running around, when he fought Evil Kara

Cat isn't stupid. She probably realizes that she got tricked, but also realizes things got pretty weird and uncomfortable with Kara when she tried to get Kara to admit she was super girl, and that its probably for the best just to play along.


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Her figuring out Barry was ridiculous. So in all of National City... he's the ONLY person who was new in town that day?

No, but he was the only new person who is hanging around Kara, and I'm fairly sure like many others that Cat knows Kara's identity.

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