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SunshineGrrrl wrote:
jemstone wrote:

Look, y'all can argue about her age all you want, but let's get one thing straight:

Her attitude and her delivery and her costume are perfect and bright and colorful and full of hope. And that is EXACTLY what they should be.

I have a lot of deeply held feels about the Superman Family, okay.

This. This is why this might be my jam.

Also, this: My reason for hoping

That site puts into words what I didn't even realize about why I liked that scene.

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Sharoth wrote:
Vixen? What is that? A new show?

Animated web series this fall about Mari Jiwe McCabe/Vixen.

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SunshineGrrrl wrote:

Interesting.

Love, love love, the new Jimmy Olsen. Hope he's there for more than just the pilot.

He's listed as main cast and as Kara's love interest.


Krensky wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Vixen? What is that? A new show?
Animated web series this fall about Mari Jiwe McCabe/Vixen.

SWEET!!! I want to watch it!

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Muad'Dib wrote:
The guy playing Jimmy Olsen played Egg's in one of the seasons of True Blood.

Ah ha! I knew I recognized him!!! Poor Eggs.


Aberzombie wrote:
Muad'Dib wrote:
The guy playing Jimmy Olsen played Egg's in one of the seasons of True Blood.
Ah ha! I knew I recognized him!!! Poor Eggs.

He (Mehcad Brooks) was also TK on Necessary Roughness in a very nuanced role (at least the first season and most of the second, though the show started to go downhill in season 2).


CBS doesn't participate in Hulu, right?

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Krensky wrote:
Yes... Because the producers don't know what they're talking about.

Evidently not.


JoelF847 wrote:
Maybe she'll have a variety of axe wielding villains who form some sort of team down the road?

Axepocalypse?

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Well, somehow I doubt the first guy joins that team. :P


I just started watching Arrow and Flash...I got to say I have a lot of Faith in Supergirl based on those shows, since the same creative talent are involved.

I am worried how well the show will do on CBS. That station hasn't had a whole lot of genre entertainment, and what they have had is kind of bad (looking at you Extant and Under the Dome). And even though CBS owns part of CW...I am kind of skeptical CBS will allow this show to exist within the Arrow/Flash Universe.


MMCJawa wrote:

I just started watching Arrow and Flash...I got to say I have a lot of Faith in Supergirl based on those shows, since the same creative talent are involved.

I am worried how well the show will do on CBS. That station hasn't had a whole lot of genre entertainment, and what they have had is kind of bad (looking at you Extant and Under the Dome). And even though CBS owns part of CW...I am kind of skeptical CBS will allow this show to exist within the Arrow/Flash Universe.

Might be a good thing. Flash barely fits in with Arrow.

Kryptonian level power would take it up to ... 11 squared. Just too big a power difference, and what works in a comic wouldn't work too well on a screen.

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Plus there's the fact that Superman has been active on Supergirl's Earth for over a decade, but neither the Arrow or Flash shows have ever mentioned his existence, even in passing.


Aberzombie wrote:
Muad'Dib wrote:
The guy playing Jimmy Olsen played Egg's in one of the seasons of True Blood.
Ah ha! I knew I recognized him!!! Poor Eggs.

HOLY S%@%!!!!


Mayhaps they are going in the Mr terrific direction with Kara dating interracial? Hm.


Kthulhu wrote:
Plus there's the fact that Superman has been active on Supergirl's Earth for over a decade, but neither the Arrow or Flash shows have ever mentioned his existence, even in passing.

Could always have it as an alternative universe, and have Kara cross over through some dimensional portal or something, if they really wanted a cross over while avoiding Superman-level powers in the CW verse

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Talonhawke wrote:
JoelF847 wrote:
Maybe she'll have a variety of axe wielding villains who form some sort of team down the road?
Axepocalypse?

Or the Axeassins


Freehold DM wrote:
Mayhaps they are going in the Mr terrific direction with Kara dating interracial? Hm.

Current New52 continuity Kara-von-Supergirl has a wheelchair-bound black boyfriend, actually.

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* Facepalm.

Two check boxes with one character. Way to be efficient DC.

But yes, James is supposed to be a orc the love interest.


jemstone wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Mayhaps they are going in the Mr terrific direction with Kara dating interracial? Hm.
Current New52 continuity Kara-von-Supergirl has a wheelchair-bound black boyfriend, actually.

is that wounded Mr. Terrific?


Freehold DM wrote:
jemstone wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Mayhaps they are going in the Mr terrific direction with Kara dating interracial? Hm.
Current New52 continuity Kara-von-Supergirl has a wheelchair-bound black boyfriend, actually.
is that wounded Mr. Terrific?

Nope. But, his name is Michael. I guess the Kara's have a thing for men with that name.

Honestly, I really like them as a pair.


Kthulhu wrote:
Plus there's the fact that Superman has been active on Supergirl's Earth for over a decade, but neither the Arrow or Flash shows have ever mentioned his existence, even in passing.

This doesn't really bother me at all. Just because someone exists in one universe... doesn't mean that it has to be a major plot point in every universe.

Just think of all the newspaper articles and news reports in Arrow that we DIDn"T see... Any of them could have been about Superman saving a train or something.

Flash is a little trickier, that show is all about the 'origins' of superpowers... so yeah, if people were flying or speeding around before that it could have gotten a nod.

Still, if it's acknowledged that he's alien, then there already isn't a connection to 'human' superpowers...

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No it's not.

This is comic books. More importantly it's DC.

We didn't hear about Superman because he was an Amish farmer until Eddie changed history.


jemstone wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
jemstone wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Mayhaps they are going in the Mr terrific direction with Kara dating interracial? Hm.
Current New52 continuity Kara-von-Supergirl has a wheelchair-bound black boyfriend, actually.
is that wounded Mr. Terrific?

Nope. But, his name is Michael. I guess the Kara's have a thing for men with that name.

Honestly, I really like them as a pair.

hmm. I don't know....

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Krensky wrote:

No it's not.

This is comic books. More importantly it's DC.

We didn't hear about Superman because he was an Amish farmer until Eddie changed history.

OOh I like it.

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A hero will rise.

Man ... I don't know, trailer scenes are a little lackluster.

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Trailer looked alright, though the part that made me cringe was the end, where it says "New Drama!" Which always sets off a red flag ever since I saw the snorefest that was Heroes.

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There already is a thread. Also I've already seen the pilot.


Personally I think they could have found a better girl to play Super Girl. I also don't like when heroes have to ask permission to save people and world in general. but I do hope I am wrong about this one and does turn out to be a good series.

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Dragon78 wrote:
Personally I think they could have found a better girl to play Super Girl. I also don't like when heroes have to ask permission to save people and world in general. but I do hope I am wrong about this one and does turn out to be a good series.

If Superman were to appear to the world today, the first thing the U.S. (and other governments would do) would be to quietly start researching a way to make Kryptonite. Because by his very existence, irregardless of his intentions, he's a threat to the status quo power structure.

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I think my biggest issue is race swapping iconic characters.

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Meh, I think it's more of a big deal that Jimmy isn't a complete dork, rather than the fact that he's black.

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Kthulhu wrote:
Meh, I think it's more of a big deal that Jimmy isn't a complete dork, rather than the fact that he's black.

I can tolerate the change, but my dad is a bigger comic grognard than I. He won't really even watch the Marvel stuff because of Sam Jackson as Nick Fury. And the Superman franchise being his favorite ... well I'll be hearing a lot about it for a while.


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Jimmy was a side character, it's not like they took the main character and changed him. Afterall, do you really think they'd take something as iconic as the Fantastic Four and make Sue Storm white and her brother black...

DOH!


Honestly, turning Jimmy from an omega male/"Distressed Dude" to an "Alpha Male" is worse for me than his race. Jimmy could be Jimmy as pretty much any ethnicity, but being an "Alpha Male" makes him a completely different character.


Hama wrote:
There already is a thread. Also I've already seen the pilot.

The baron never checks for threads!

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KahnyaGnorc wrote:
Honestly, turning Jimmy from an omega male/"Distressed Dude" to an "Alpha Male" is worse for me than his race. Jimmy could be Jimmy as pretty much any ethnicity, but being an "Alpha Male" makes him a completely different character.

I kinda like it. Superman is already an established hero and Olsen is a Pulitzer prize photographer, at the top of his game. In comes Kara.


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Hama wrote:
KahnyaGnorc wrote:
Honestly, turning Jimmy from an omega male/"Distressed Dude" to an "Alpha Male" is worse for me than his race. Jimmy could be Jimmy as pretty much any ethnicity, but being an "Alpha Male" makes him a completely different character.
I kinda like it. Superman is already an established hero and Olsen is a Pulitzer prize photographer, at the top of his game. In comes Kara.

He's also playing a very different role here than in a Superman story, if I'm reading the hints in the trailers correctly. Sort of a liason between Superman and Supergirl. He's been in the superhero game for awhile (on the edges, obviously) and he's helping the new kid out. As opposed to being the helpless source of trouble for Superman.

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thejeff wrote:
Hama wrote:
KahnyaGnorc wrote:
Honestly, turning Jimmy from an omega male/"Distressed Dude" to an "Alpha Male" is worse for me than his race. Jimmy could be Jimmy as pretty much any ethnicity, but being an "Alpha Male" makes him a completely different character.
I kinda like it. Superman is already an established hero and Olsen is a Pulitzer prize photographer, at the top of his game. In comes Kara.

He's also playing a very different role here than in a Superman story, if I'm reading the hints in the trailers correctly. Sort of a liason between Superman and Supergirl. He's been in the superhero game for awhile (on the edges, obviously) and he's helping the new kid out. As opposed to being the helpless source of trouble for Superman.

Exactly. And I like it.

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Jimmy Olsen has also been written at varying levels of competence and utility over the years, some of which are on par with superheroes.


Krensky wrote:
Jimmy Olsen has also been written at varying levels of competence and utility over the years, some of which are on par with superheroes.

He's even occasionally been a superhero. Though usually not a very effective one.

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Let's hope that its several years into the series before we see Elastic Lad, okay?

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What about Mr Action or Flamebird?

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At one point Jimmy had access to all the powers of the Legion of Super Heroes, that's no small feat.

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He went toe to toe with Darksied.

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Krensky wrote:
He went toe to toe with Darksied.

Who hasn't?

;)


baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Krensky wrote:
He went toe to toe with Darksied.

Who hasn't?

;)

JL: Gods and Monsters spoiler.

Spoiler:
Everyone born after that wedding.


Hama wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Hama wrote:
KahnyaGnorc wrote:
Honestly, turning Jimmy from an omega male/"Distressed Dude" to an "Alpha Male" is worse for me than his race. Jimmy could be Jimmy as pretty much any ethnicity, but being an "Alpha Male" makes him a completely different character.
I kinda like it. Superman is already an established hero and Olsen is a Pulitzer prize photographer, at the top of his game. In comes Kara.

He's also playing a very different role here than in a Superman story, if I'm reading the hints in the trailers correctly. Sort of a liason between Superman and Supergirl. He's been in the superhero game for awhile (on the edges, obviously) and he's helping the new kid out. As opposed to being the helpless source of trouble for Superman.

Exactly. And I like it.

The change was unnecessary since the comics already have Ron Troupe. He could have filled the same role.

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Gilbin wrote:
Hama wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Hama wrote:
KahnyaGnorc wrote:
Honestly, turning Jimmy from an omega male/"Distressed Dude" to an "Alpha Male" is worse for me than his race. Jimmy could be Jimmy as pretty much any ethnicity, but being an "Alpha Male" makes him a completely different character.
I kinda like it. Superman is already an established hero and Olsen is a Pulitzer prize photographer, at the top of his game. In comes Kara.

He's also playing a very different role here than in a Superman story, if I'm reading the hints in the trailers correctly. Sort of a liason between Superman and Supergirl. He's been in the superhero game for awhile (on the edges, obviously) and he's helping the new kid out. As opposed to being the helpless source of trouble for Superman.

Exactly. And I like it.
The change was unnecessary since the comics already have Ron Troupe. He could have filled the same role.

No he couldn't.

No one knows who he is.


Why are pilots like awkward first dates?

The entire sub plot with Kara's Sister seemed very unnecessary and only serves as a way to feed her a villain of the week. Villain of the week seems so CW, I did not expect that with a bigger network,

But there is a lot to like. The actress playing Supergirl is fantastic. Jimmy Olsen's reveal later in the episode seemed a bit awkward from a script standpoint but the actor plays it off with charm. I'm completely sold on him as a Jimmy Olsen for the modern age.

As far as pilots go it was ok but I'm happy to have it behind me. Looking forward to more.

-MD

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