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Kara's universe seems a lot more silver age then the others. More up beat in general while flash and arrows universe is a bit darker. I think they will feel out of place as much as kara seemed out of place in theirs (some of it might just be she's just a Super positive person (pun intended))

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Barry did just fine in her universe since his basic nature is rather upbeat. Oliver on the other hand will be like a goth in the noonday sun.

And the fact is Alex in Kryptonite Samurai mode could hold her own against any member of the Arrow squad.

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I think the power level in general is a lot higher on Earth-38 (the GM for that show is obviously generous with the point buy). Alex and James' power armor allows them to fight on Supergirl's level. From what we've seen of Ray's atom suit he's still a long way from that kind of power.

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I think the power level in general is a lot higher on Earth-38 (the GM for that show is obviously generous with the point buy). Alex and James' power armor allows them to fight on Supergirl's level. From what we've seen of Ray's atom suit he's still a long way from that kind of power.

Yeah, a *lot* of the aliens Supergirl ends up fighting seem to have strength and toughness that surprises her (even if she later beats them down), which, since many of them escaped a Kryptonian prison, could be rationalized a bit (since prisoners who couldn't throw down at that level might not have survived long in that prison).

Much like Flash fighting a lot of speedsters, and Star City crawling with bad-guy archers, it seems that Supergirl is going to end up facing more than her fair share of people who are crazy strong and tough.

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It's almost like the characters in each show occupy some gamist universe where the dangers constantly rise just high enough to challenge them.


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All I know is if/when the do the next cross over, I want Winn, Cisco and Felicity to geek out over some random thing while also playing on the Waverider.

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Set wrote:
Feral wrote:
I think the power level in general is a lot higher on Earth-38 (the GM for that show is obviously generous with the point buy). Alex and James' power armor allows them to fight on Supergirl's level. From what we've seen of Ray's atom suit he's still a long way from that kind of power.

Yeah, a *lot* of the aliens Supergirl ends up fighting seem to have strength and toughness that surprises her (even if she later beats them down), which, since many of them escaped a Kryptonian prison, could be rationalized a bit (since prisoners who couldn't throw down at that level might not have survived long in that prison).

Much like Flash fighting a lot of speedsters, and Star City crawling with bad-guy archers, it seems that Supergirl is going to end up facing more than her fair share of people who are crazy strong and tough.

Makes sense. You can't very well display her strength by punching through people like tissue paper, her villains need to be able to take a punch. And you're reminded of how tough she is when someone punches her through a wall.

It's kind of how Wolverine has the most horrible crap happen to him just so they can showcase the healing factor.

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I love that though Thea's retired her response is..."Yeah but...ALIENS!"


Mark,

Well I mean she isn't fighting humans so it might work out better for her...

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Yup killing what one perceives as monsters is usually pretty guilt free.


That and you know, invaders from another planet.

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I interpreted it as aliens are invading, the whole world's at risk, this is something that I need to help stop, my petty internal struggles are insignificant next to that.

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Oliver on the other hand will be like a goth in the noonday sun.

Kind of like Batman........


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A-Zombie,

We already agreed, Ollie is the Bruce Wayne of this Earth since no one else wants to be apparently. Stupid billionaires and their unwillingness to fight crime in person!

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Yeah, I've never been sure why they don't seem to want to attempt another Bat TV series. It could be cool.


A-zombie,

Maybe they've seen how wrong Gotham has gone with just the supporting cast and no Batman? I dunno. I still think of all things Gotham has done, casting Cameron Monaghan as the Joker is one of the highlights for me.

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An interesting new episode....

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I enjoyed the expansion of the universe onto a new planet, with some new aliens. The "atmosphere is toxic to martians" was....convenient.

That chick playing Roulette was kind of blah. With regard to her performance, that is. It just seemed....wooden.

Seeing Winn f#*# that alien slaver up with a rock was pretty damn cool. I guess when the chips are down, even he can be a bad ass mofo.

I'm guessing the dudes who showed up looking for Mon-El are fellow Daxamites. Should be interesting. I'm looking forward to his transition into the future Legionaire.

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It's too bad, I'm a big fan of Dichen Lachman from dollhouse, but she wasn't that great as roulette.


Yeah I liked her better as Daisy's mom than I do as Roulette.

Also I liked this episode for the fact it wasn't needed viewing but still a good way to kick off the rest of the season.

Still want to know what alien race the President is and how that might affect the future of this show.


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It's too bad, I'm a big fan of Dichen Lachman from dollhouse, but she wasn't that great as roulette.

Sierra was the second best doll. Enver Gjokaj (sp?) as Victor being the best.

She was also decent in the short lived Last Resort. (Might have been better, but her arc was cut severely as it wasn't crucial to finishing the story in one season.)

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Is it just me or are they telegraphing pretty hard that Mon-El is the prince he claims to have been bodyguard for?


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I think that "secret" is about as secret as the origin of the "stick" on Grimm.


Set, I must have missed that but yeah it does seem that way now that I think about it.

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I think that "secret" is about as secret as the origin of the "stick" on Grimm.

Oh yeah, that one made me want to reach into the TV and slap those people silly. :)

"What do you think this 2000 year old splinter of a larger piece of wood, guarded for centuries by Christian knights, that has mysterious healing powers is?"

"Obviously a wand of cure light wounds, Monroe. Don't overthink it."

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Set wrote:
GreenDragon1133 wrote:
I think that "secret" is about as secret as the origin of the "stick" on Grimm.

Oh yeah, that one made me want to reach into the TV and slap those people silly. :)

"What do you think this 2000 year old splinter of a larger piece of wood, guarded for centuries by Christian knights, that has mysterious healing powers is?"

Actually, to my thinking there are two plausible answers there.

The cross is the most likely, but given the less beneficial effects ascribed to the 'stick' there is another wooden artifact that was involved in the same event which it could be... which also just showed up in the most recent episodes of Legends of Tomorrow.


The One Ring aspects in this season seems to be an effort to throw off theories regarding the True Cross or Spear of Longinus.


Regardless,

Spear or True Cross, one thing for sure, it's not Mjolnir. ;)


Ughh! What is up with the double standard?

Kara, what about Oliver, John Diggle, Sara Lance, Ray Palmer? Maybe you need to commute to Earth-1 and protect them too?

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I actually like the idea of Jimmy becoming a superhero in his own right. I don't like the way it was portrayed in the show.

That said, Kara is definitely out of line. She just saved a world with the help of several non-powered folks - some without power armor even. If they pull the 'because I care about you' card I might flip a table.

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Yeah I liked her better as Daisy's mom than I do as Roulette.

Also I liked this episode for the fact it wasn't needed viewing but still a good way to kick off the rest of the season.

Still want to know what alien race the President is and how that might affect the future of this show.

She's basically only Roulette because she looks like she stepped out of the comic. The visual is dead on, but the acting doesn't bring her decadent hedonistic profiteering to the surface


That could be the writing. We've seen her play that before on other shows. Not all at once, but she can play those traits.

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I thought Kara came off a bit a%%#+**-ish last night...

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...mostly in her treatment of James and Winn. When you've got friend's who's been inspired by you and your cousin to act the hero and help stop the bad guys, you don't threaten or belittle them.

Yes, I'm sure that deep down, she's just worried they'll get hurt. Then again, she also got pretty angry with Mon-El for being worried about her getting hurt.

The Martian Manhunter parts of the story were better, I thought. I wish they'd delve more into the martian psychic powers. This was pretty good though. The acting was superb, especially when he first rejected helping the chick martian because he didn't want to share his memories of his family and such. I've really come to like that dude.

Looking forward to a white martian attack next week.


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Ughh! What is up with the double standard?

Kara, what about Oliver, John Diggle, Sara Lance, Ray Palmer? Maybe you need to commute to Earth-1 and protect them too?

That was my first thought too. However I figure it might be more of a thing where she doesn't really know Team Arrow/Waverider all that well, versus having a preexisting relationship with Olson and Winn.

Stuff like this really makes me wish that Team Supergirl was involved more with the crossover. It would be interesting to see Guardian relate to some mundane vigilantes.


I agree with everyone that Kara's over-protective nature seems to be on display here. That and she doesn't recognize that normal people, hell COPS for goodness sake, might try to stop meta-humans even if they're not 100% equipped for it.

Regardless, I'm with Zombie, the rapport between M'gann and J'znn has not only improved the show, but the characters themselves.

We'll see if that holds out.

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I liked the namedrop of H'ronmeer. I also noticed they gave the ex-husband white martian the name Armek, which was from the original Grant Morrison introduction of the white martians.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Regardless, I'm with Zombie, the rapport between M'gann and J'znn has not only improved the show, but the characters themselves.

We'll see if that holds out.

Apparently not.

I read an article suggesting that Miss Martian will be leaving the show permanently because of the Teen Justice renewal and 'only one version of each character' thing that comes up sometimes.


CB,

I guess so since they just sent her off to Mars. Sheesh. WB/DC!!! Make up your g$#~*+n mind!

I totally enjoyed M'gann but now that's she left I feel like...this is making Supergirl a tad weaker.

I do know this much: I liked the episode for the Martians, not for the romance.


I've not been a fan of M'gann on the show.

Worse, the show has established there is a whole planet full of beings with the physical strength of Kryptonians, plus phasing (how were they keeping them inside the building?), shapeshifting, and telepathy. And they have had no troubles (Green Martians) at home to occupy them for centuries. Why haven't they invaded Earth already?


Green,

Maybe the Greens didn't like the way the Earth looked...


Greens? Or Whites?


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That said, Kara is definitely out of line. She just saved a world with the help of several non-powered folks - some without power armor even. If they pull the 'because I care about you' card I might flip a table.

To be fair... they weren't Jimmy Olson. JIMMY.... OLSON... Professional hostage and has been in trouble so much (even in THIS universe) that he has a signal watch for when he inevitably gets in over his head.

And WYNN?!!? Jimmy may be buffed up and going by 'james' now to reinvent himself... but Wynn is still the same guy from season 1. She knows him well enough to know that anything involving getting out from behind a keyboard... is a death sentence to him. As has ALSO been shown in the show a couple times now.

What I REALLY want to see are the text between her and Clark. Has she told him that Jimmy wants to be a superhero? Did he laugh too? Did he tell her to keep an eye on his 'best pal'? You just KNOW that if anything happens to Jimmy in HER town... She's still going to have to explain it to Clark.

FYI, I really miss the texts. They were a LOT of fun in the first season... showing up was better, but in between appearances I'd still like his presence around.


I agree with Phantom, I miss the texts.

Also Phantom raises a good point, Jimmy Olsen, might be trying to form his own persona, but he's still not quite ready to take on Batman level thugs, much less any from Kara's rogues.

As for Winn...I keep hoping he'll figure out some tech-y way to keep himself out of harm.

Greenie,

Both maybe?


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I agree with Phantom, I miss the texts.

Also Phantom raises a good point, Jimmy Olsen, might be trying to form his own persona, but he's still not quite ready to take on Batman level thugs, much less any from Kara's rogues.

As for Winn...I keep hoping he'll figure out some tech-y way to keep himself out of harm.

Greenie,

Both maybe?

Greens are supposedly all dead/assimilated. Hence why the aggressive, expansionist Whites have nothing to stop them from invading.

I suppose they could colonize Titan, the natives won't be there until after Mon-El plants them there, so its open currently.


Regardless,

I don't think either race has much interest in taking over Earth.

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Some things I liked. Some things were 'meh'. Some things left me with the impression the writers are complete morons.

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I've never been a big fan of other Luthors, but I can understand why they do it. The Luthor name is iconic, but I'm guessing they've been told they can't use Lex, so they have to settle for something else.

If you're going into a fight with a cyborg powered by Kryptonite (even the syntheic kind) why don't you bring Martian Manhunter and Mon-El with you from the start? Since, you know, neither one of them is vulnerable to Kryptonite. At least they had J'onn show up.

And that's been one of my big problems with Mon-El. So far, most of what they've done with him has been relationship drama. I wish they'd be doing more to directly steer towards his heroic personna. Have him start to help out more in fights. Give him a costume. Do something.

I lovd the glimpse at Lex's super suit. And they had a brief glimpse of an axe. I thought I heard her say atomic axe, which makes me think of the Persuader. I wonder, though, what was in the box the Luthor momma chick found, when she talked about not realizing Lex had finished it.

I'm guessing that's the last we'll see of Metallo, but who knows....

Mister Mxyzptlk - WHAT? No Gilbert Gottfried? I'm just a little disappointed.


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A-zombie,

I agree with the no Gilbert thingie, but I guess they are trying for a younger demographic. Plus the fact I'd prefer him shorter and you know bald and cigar smoking.

I think the box had another BOX in it...


Howie Mandell played him live action.

1) When exactly did Lex die? He was still alive at the start of the season.

2) Kara's mom and aunt 'grew up in the same house right'?

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1) When exactly did Lex die? He was still alive at the start of the season.

Oh yeah, I nearly forgot about that. Momma dropped that line and I was thinking "Huh? When did Lex buy the farm?"

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What Lillian said was that she and Lena were the only Luthors left. That could just mean, 'left free to carry on our glorious genocidal plans'.

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