Another Question on Unchained Multiclassing

[Val'bryn2]

I have a pretty good understanding on how most of it works. what you gain and don't gain, no spells from your variant multiclass, etc. But do you get the class skills from your second class? Weapon/armor proficiencies? I wasn't able to find anything about those in the writeup for the new system.

[Snowblind]

Val'bryn2 wrote:

I have a pretty good understanding on how most of it works. what you gain and don't gain, no spells from your variant multiclass, etc. But do you get the class skills from your second class? Weapon/armor proficiencies? I wasn't able to find anything about those in the writeup for the new system.

No.

What each VMC says you get is what you get. If it doesn't list skills/proficiencies (which IIRC none do) then you don't get them.

[Rub-Eta]

What Snowblind said.

[Starbuck_II]

Val'bryn2 wrote:

I have a pretty good understanding on how most of it works. what you gain and don't gain, no spells from your variant multiclass, etc. But do you get the class skills from your second class? Weapon/armor proficiencies? I wasn't able to find anything about those in the writeup for the new system.

Nope.

While it should as it is supposed to be multiclass: they failed to make account for that.

[LazarX]

Starbuck_II wrote:

Val'bryn2 wrote:

I have a pretty good understanding on how most of it works. what you gain and don't gain, no spells from your variant multiclass, etc. But do you get the class skills from your second class? Weapon/armor proficiencies? I wasn't able to find anything about those in the writeup for the new system.

Nope.

While it should as it is supposed to be multiclass: they failed to make account for that.

yes they did... in putting in the word "Variant".

[Gilfalas]

Val'bryn2 wrote:

I have a pretty good understanding on how most of it works. what you gain and don't gain, no spells from your variant multiclass, etc. But do you get the class skills from your second class? Weapon/armor proficiencies? I wasn't able to find anything about those in the writeup for the new system.

Can you stop multiclassing in the variant system or do you HAVE to spend those 5 feats in trade for the class abilities?

In regular multiclassing you can take only the amount of levels you want in those other classes. Do you have that option with the variant?

Only spend the first 3 feats listed for the first three abilities and then take none of the rest for example?

[LazarX]

Gilfalas wrote:

Val'bryn2 wrote:

I have a pretty good understanding on how most of it works. what you gain and don't gain, no spells from your variant multiclass, etc. But do you get the class skills from your second class? Weapon/armor proficiencies? I wasn't able to find anything about those in the writeup for the new system.

Can you stop multiclassing in the variant system or do you HAVE to spend those 5 feats in trade for the class abilities?

it's an all or nothing proposition.

[Blackpowder Witch]

Gilfalas wrote:

Can you stop multiclassing in the variant system or do you HAVE to spend those 5 feats in trade for the class abilities?

In regular multiclassing you can take only the amount of levels you want in those other classes. Do you have that option with the variant?

Only spend the first 3 feats listed for the first three abilities and then take none of the rest for example?

"A character who selects this option doesn’t gain feats at 3rd, 7th, 11th, 15th, and 19th levels, but instead gains class features from her secondary class as described on Table 2–8: Multiclass Character Advancement."

Sounds like once you choose to hop on the VMC train, there's no getting off it. Without a GM house ruling, I see no language in Unchained to suggest that it's possible to pick a another feat over a the secondary class feature.