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Bluddwolf wrote:So once you take into account the 2 months game time - you are offering about $5 for a DT :DOn October 2, if the server is still up, I will be looking to by a DT account for $35 (the kick starter cost).
The seller would be recovering initial investment, and I would be risking the loss of $35 on a game that might close its doors at any moment.
I wouldn't pay 5 cents for an account before the end of September, because there has been nothing to indicate that servers WILL be up in October.
Besides, have you noticed the server pop drop off? I'm going to guess there are less than 200 unique subscribers left.

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TL;DR: Anyone thinking of selling a DT to Bludd, I'll happily pay you ten dollars more than he's offering.
I wouldn't pay 5 cents for an account before the end of September, because there has been nothing to indicate that servers WILL be up in October.
There's been lots to indicate it, just nothing definitive because nobody can see the future. There's nothing wrong with trying to get the best price you can on accounts, but none of us are obliged to stand by and let you pretend that DT accounts are worth less than $35
Besides, have you noticed the server pop drop off? I'm going to guess there are less than 200 unique subscribers left.
Trying to extrapolate active subscribers from who is playing is no more valid today than it was a month ago. I personally (i.e., in real life) know three people who have not played in many weeks but have continued their subscriptions and are in no hurry to cancel them. In fact, whe current state of the war between Xeilias and Phaeros probably means that trying to judge active subscribers from people logging in is less useful than it was a month ago. Many people are simply keeping their heads down.

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TL;DR: Anyone thinking of selling a DT to Bludd, I'll happily pay you ten dollars more than he's offering.
Bluddwolf wrote:I wouldn't pay 5 cents for an account before the end of September, because there has been nothing to indicate that servers WILL be up in October.There's been lots to indicate it, just nothing definitive because nobody can see the future. There's nothing wrong with trying to get the best price you can on accounts, but none of us are obliged to stand by and let you pretend that DT accounts are worth less than $35
Bluddwolf wrote:Besides, have you noticed the server pop drop off? I'm going to guess there are less than 200 unique subscribers left.Trying to extrapolate active subscribers from who is playing is no more valid today than it was a month ago. I personally (i.e., in real life) know three people who have not played in many weeks but have continued their subscriptions and are in no hurry to cancel them. In fact, whe current state of the war between Xeilias and Phaeros probably means that trying to judge active subscribers from people logging in is less useful than it was a month ago. Many people are simply keeping their heads down.
I didn't say they wee worth less than $35.00, just not more than what they had cost if they were the $35.00 version.
Banked XP has no value if the servers are Touch-and-Go, and unless Paizo announces they have a new backer, they are Touch-and-Go.
So my offer stands at $35.00 for a DT account, and I will purchase it on or about October 1st or 2nd.

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Trying to extrapolate active subscribers from who is playing is no more valid today than it was a month ago. I personally (i.e., in real life) know three people who have not played in many weeks but have continued their subscriptions and are in no hurry to cancel them. In fact, whe current state of the war between Xeilias and Phaeros probably means that trying to judge active subscribers from people logging in is less useful than it was a month ago. Many people are simply keeping their heads down.
.... and well advised to do so if they are war targets. The handful of obsessives that drove the forever war can still be spotted roaming the South East trying to hunt down the odd Phaeros person that does log back in.
In terms of numbers, the active population in my own settlement in my playtime (non american time zone) has actually gone up since the war settled down for us. We generally have no issues getting one or two parties together to knock of escalations almost nightly.
As far as DT addons go, maybe people are not understanding the mechanics and just what you are getting but Keepers have had maybe half a dozen players or so add extra DTs in the last few weeks with no regrets.

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:Trying to extrapolate active subscribers from who is playing is no more valid today than it was a month ago. I personally (i.e., in real life) know three people who have not played in many weeks but have continued their subscriptions and are in no hurry to cancel them. In fact, whe current state of the war between Xeilias and Phaeros probably means that trying to judge active subscribers from people logging in is less useful than it was a month ago. Many people are simply keeping their heads down.
.... and well advised to do so if they are war targets. The handful of obsessives that drove the forever war can still be spotted roaming the South East trying to hunt down the odd Phaeros person that does log back in.
Which is why I'm not in the area with recognizable characters very often.
Taking into account the effort and cost involved with keeping a stable, compared to the expected value during the continued existence of PFO, I'd be happy to buy accounts with non-notable character names and two full-XP DT characters with sane XP expenditures starting at $10 each, modified by sub time remaining. Large stockpiles of resources might slightly increase that, and well-known characters would probably decrease that.
My honest estimate of the value of such an account is higher than that.

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I have decided to hang on to my current accounts, so I am not putting these up for sale. I have suspended 7 of them, so I will let these hibernate untill PFO gets revived or dies. I have a feeling that if another publisher picks up PFO, we will see some changes to monetization too so I think the whole "XP from day 1" thing will become less of a thing. Hopefully the DT-perk will still keep being honored in some way.
I am keeping my Main account subbed for nostalgia purposes.
Thanks for all the interest!

Zycor |

Update:
Account 1 $150 ~400k spent XP // 410k Unspent XP
Account 2 $150 ~400k unspent human/human dt on both toons
Account 3 $100 ~210k spent XP (Focused trained Dwarf Fighter Dragoon)
Account 4 $90 ~190k spent XP (Focused trained Bowyer)
Account 5 $100 ~210k spent XP (Focused trained 2h Cleric)
Account 6 (Stolen by Tyrone)
PM for screenshots/bargains. Email me at heroguids@gmail.com for fastest responses.
PS: Have lots of interest in account #2. Price is $150 no questions asked, I bought it from coach. Both characters are human and have lots of unspent xp and nice names.

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Putting my main account up on ebay to see if there's any interest. See ebay listing for account details.

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I will post more specifics later when I get the chance to login and verify
all accounts have fantasy names, not anything stupid. the toon on account 3 has about 200ish player kills but they were all in warfare not griefing
Account 1:
Destiny Twins with XP from Day one
toon 1: Human male: Armorsmith 14 with enough experience to be closer to 16 than 15
toon 2: human male: Weaver 11/Rogue 12 (used the weaver to bust Dex gates and to make Armorsmith refines)
Account 2:
Destiny Twins with XP from Day one
toon 1: elven male: Archer/Cleric, saving XP for Druid
toon 2: human male: Bowyer/Leatherworker (enough saved XP to be tier 3 in whichever one you choose)
Account 3:
Destiny Twins with XP from Day one
toon 1: human male: Smelter 15/Miner 11
toon 2: human male: Archer with 300+k saved XP waiting on Ranger
Account 4:
Destiny Twin account that is currently unsubscribed ... This account was unsubscribed early on because the friend I purchased this for decided not to play until OE ... both toons are human male with about 100k unspent XP
have sold 4 other accounts in the last week and if you need the names of the individuals who bought those for verification of honesty i would be glad to PM you
PM me with questions if you have any interest
what i will likely do is sell 3 of these and keep the last one that doesn't sell for myself

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Putting my main account up on ebay to see if there's any interest. See ebay listing for account details.
Still available.

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I will post more specifics later when I get the chance to login and verify
all accounts have fantasy names, not anything stupid. the toon on account 3 has about 200ish player kills but they were all in warfare not griefing
Account 1:
Destiny Twins with XP from Day one
toon 1: Human male: Armorsmith 14 with enough experience to be closer to 16 than 15
toon 2: human male: Weaver 11/Rogue 12 (used the weaver to bust Dex gates and to make Armorsmith refines)Account 2:
Destiny Twins with XP from Day one
toon 1: elven male: Archer/Cleric, saving XP for Druid
toon 2: human male: Bowyer/Leatherworker (enough saved XP to be tier 3 in whichever one you choose)Account 3:
Destiny Twins with XP from Day one
toon 1: human male: Smelter 15/Miner 11
toon 2: human male: Archer with 300+k saved XP waiting on RangerAccount 4:
Destiny Twin account that is currently unsubscribed ... This account was unsubscribed early on because the friend I purchased this for decided not to play until OE ... both toons are human male with about 100k unspent XPhave sold 4 other accounts in the last week and if you need the names of the individuals who bought those for verification of honesty i would be glad to PM you
PM me with questions if you have any interest
what i will likely do is sell 3 of these and keep the last one that doesn't sell for myself
sold another account yesterday
have had PMs asking, have been selling the Day One XP accounts for $200, if you buy two i will sell for $325 combined
also, these were early KS pledges so have all awards possible
account 4 I will sell for $25

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I have an account I'm happy to sell on.
Not really had the time I'd hoped, to play the game, so have just wandered around the starting area, gaining the basic feats.
Kickstarter account, Destiny's Twin, with all equipment options, but never actually equipped or threaded any of them yet.
Dotting this thread, for later. If anyone's interested, drop me a personal message.

CTTodd |

I have sent messages to a few people, but I will also put my request here. I am interested in purchasing a DT account, and want to know who has what available. Please PM me and let me know what you have and how much you want for it.
Would be willing to pay a little more for bank contents and holdings etc.

CTTodd |

Just an update here, Transaction with Zycor was above the boards and fully disclosed. I had no issues dealing with him, and the transaction went as smooth as I could want it. I ultimately ended up with more then promised, not less as other people on the boards seem to indicate.
I had never had any dealings with Zycor, so this is not being written by someone who knew or was friends with him. I did do my due diligence and followed up on every statement that was made to make sure I was satisfied that everything existed that was represented, and did not fine one discrepancy

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i Have one more DT account left
I certainly don't mind keeping this one for myself when the game goes OE
but I will entertain offers and if i do sell i will just pick up another account when it goes OE
account has fantasy names, not anything stupid.
Destiny Twins with XP from Day one and ALL daily deals from Kickstarter
toon 1: elven male: Archer/Cleric, saving XP for Druid = 410,000 unspent XP
toon 2: human male: Bowyer 10/Leatherworker 10 (enough saved XP = 443,000 unspent to be tier 3 in whichever one you choose)
I will talk to the paizo names below in order of the time that they contacted me about another DT account
1) Tuffon
2) CTTodd
3) Mai Shael
4) NailU2

Zycor |

Still have a DT account for sale. Looking for $200. It has 1 character fully untrained. Character 1 is named Xanne she is a female elf archer, purely trained into Fighter. This character has no wasted XP, level 5 long bow abilities and the proficiency to wear T2+3 gear. I will also include her vault, with extra backup gear and 23 gold coins. Character 2 is named Cordovan he is a human male with 440k unspent XP. Nothing is trained on him.
The account is subbed for 30 days. Here are some screenshots.
Xanne:
http://i.imgur.com/yJEw4UA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9MLSJJh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BDDi6HG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xSKzzm9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hw2Fp8E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1LWQJlt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XAXamfk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Uvfu9eh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cPpDF78.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zeG4iKR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Hv3AHgU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CreM4SQ.jpg (Bank items in Keruz Bernstein)
Cordovan:
http://i.imgur.com/Hw0qImY.jpg
Account Perks:
http://i.imgur.com/GkNwOXA.png
Contact me here or email heroguids@gmail.com.

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Linkified:
Still have a DT account for sale. Looking for $200. It has 1 character fully untrained. Character 1 is named Xanne she is a female elf archer, purely trained into Fighter. This character has no wasted XP, level 5 long bow abilities and the proficiency to wear T2+3 gear. I will also include her vault, with extra backup gear and 23 gold coins. Character 2 is named Cordovan he is a human male with 440k unspent XP. Nothing is trained on him.
The account is subbed for 30 days. Here are some screenshots.
Xanne:
pic1 pic2 pic3 pic4 pic5 pic6 pic7 pic8 pic9 pic10 pic11 Bank items in Keruz Bernstein
Cordovan: pic1
Account Perks: pic1
Contact me here or email heroguids@gmail.com.
Is it really heroguids@, or is there an "e" missing (heroguides)?

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i Have one more DT account left
I certainly don't mind keeping this one for myself when the game goes OE
but I will entertain offers and if i do sell i will just pick up another account when it goes OE
account has fantasy names, not anything stupid.
Destiny Twins with XP from Day one and ALL daily deals from Kickstarter
toon 1: elven male: Archer/Cleric, saving XP for Druid = 410,000 unspent XP
toon 2: human male: Bowyer 10/Leatherworker 10 (enough saved XP = 443,000 unspent to be tier 3 in whichever one you choose)
loaded bank with waaaaayyyy too many recipes/maneuvers/spells to mention
24 gold
plus a bunch of XP added since these were listed nearly a month ago

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All good things must come to an end. It is with a sad heart I must sell off my Pathfinder Accounts to a good home.
I would prefer to sell as a whole, and am willing to take a loss for the right person (Need a specific role? May split up for the right offer, if not enough interest in whole lot)
Current things you may like about these accounts
54+ months active subscription spread over the accounts, from 4 min to 10 max (810 USD Value)
1x Smallholding (200 USD)
8 Dual Training (Destiny’s Twin Accounts)
6 (12 characters) Maximum Day 1 xp
2 (4 characters) DT month 2 xp characters
~120 gold cash money
~Every T1 and T2 Refining Recipe in game trained******* No hassle crafting!
~Most and, arguably all the T2 crafting recipies anyone has ever had use for
~Ability to craft anything T1 or T2 in game
~A T3 Pure combat staff using mage
Most characters have 1-3 months unused xp
A 1050 + Influence Company with mostly my characters in it(Instant Settlement Boost) Have your own company bank to easily craft, and for security purposes
3 Holdings with bulk resources stockpiling for months
~15 Mules worth of resources, refined goods, not including bulk goods
Tons of t3/t2 mage and other spells, some crafting recipies such as dusky crystal +1, superior padding +1, superior consonate +2, and a few others, buildings I have a few temples ect.
Am willing to sell under my cost to get these accounts
A Year of ungating, grinding gold, lootings, crafting, ect is all basically free, you are just paying back the costs to Goblinworks (and a downpayment for me to get a new car…), and benefitting from fully ready to craft to support a settlement
T3 and T2 and T1 resource stockpile
You can craft anything in game T1 and T2, and most T3 which can be crafted yet, and most even have stockpiles of resources to do it with. This is basically a self supporting settlement pack.
This list is a month or two old, with mostly 100k+ xp free to train since for every character
Refining Skills (and what was used to ungated/ secondary skills)
Weaver 15> Bowyer 9
Sage 15> dowser 13*
Smelter 15>miner 14
Tanner 14> miner 11
Gemcutter 15leather worker 10
Sawyer 14 > miner 10 ( I can get a 15 to help many)
Apothocary 13> iconographer 8
*Also like low lvl sentinel, like 6 or so on my sage
Crafting Skills
Artificer 15> spell weaver 10
Tailor 15>bowyer 10
Jeweler 15> artificer 10
Iconographer 15> cleric
Weaponsmith 14 (and a half)> armorsmith 10
Armorsmith 14> weapon smith 8
Alchy 11 >eng 10 (and a lot left to choose which with xp)
(Gathering skills)
Forrester/Scavenger 14
Miner 14
Dower 13 (has xp and almost ungated to 14, or could do sage 16 now)
PVP
ZOMOZ Primary 20 int wiz, with t3 staff can use now, has xp to train close to t3 robes as well, and characters to make his own t3 gear
ANY type of PVP character you prefer would be easy to make with any stat in game being around 20 currently for all these characters, you could make any t3 pvp character in game in a month or so instead of a year starting from scratch
2500$ USD Buyout Or Best Offer (Paypal Verified)
Feel free to Email me at wiggyest@hotmail.com with questions if you are seriously interested in buying.

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THIS THREAD WILL NOT BE CLOSELY MONITORED
PLEASE POST ANY BIDS IN GW OFFICIAL FORUMS
LINK https://goblinworks.com/forum/topic/4548/?page=1#post-50712
Buyout of whole package 2000$ USD, Open until Sunday
Feel free to Email me at wiggyest@hotmail.com with questions if you are seriously interested in buying.
I will start with random auction lots, and then have accounts with a few more details below. Buy an account, get 20% off any BO listing lot below (one discount per account purchased if in combo).
5$ minimum increase per bid
2 week (or shorter if I feel like it) duration
Starting now, ending Christmas eve (Dec 24ths ~ around this time, or earlier)
Buyout as whole package ends Sunday afternoon, you may bid on lots and accounts, but if whole package purchased it will take the cake.
I am out of town 12/11 and 12/12, but will be back and can meet up and deliver any accounts or lots that are bought out on Sunday, or later, whenever we can meet up, I do have This Monday off work as well
Aution Lot 1
20 gold 35$ min 50$ B0
Auction Lot 2
20 gold 35$ min 50$ bo
Auction Lot 3
20 gold 35$ min 50$ bo
Auction lot 4
20 gold 35$ min 50$ bo
Auction lot 5
20 gold 35$ min 50$ bo
Auction lot 6
20 gold 35$ min 50$ bo
Auction lot 7
All my t1, t2, t3 resources grab bag 40$ min 80$ bo, you pick up/transfer char in hammerfall
Auction lot 8
All my refined resources (20+ t2 +5’s and many more +4’s, hundreds of +3s enough to ungated a bit)30$ min 75$ bo) in hammerfall
Auction lot 9
Instant Company (1k+ influence, search stache’s mustache) Transfer your own characters in, take leader, fill with 1k alts, get 3+ free holdings, all of which have 2+ months bulk goods sitting in them around kreuz Bernstein 30$ min, 75$ bo
Auction lot 10
All my crafted goods (100’s of t2 +2/3 items) 40$ min, 80$ bo
Auction lot 11
All my recipies and spellbooks, including several t3s, and various others 40$ min, 100$ bo
Auction lot 12
Smallholding deed 50$ min 125$ bo (200$ on GW store!)
All refiners have every t1 and t2 recipe in game trained
Most crafted recipes trained, but not some of the ones nobody has ever needed
First account BO gets 1 g 23s 84c bonus(my balance past 120g smile
Account 1
Day 1 Account, max xp!
Zomoz – 20.2 int 12.24 per, 11.63 11.33 con, 10.56 dex, 10.47 str Combat focused t3 wiz ( 34k+ Free XP)
Stache- 19.47 int Artificer 15, spellweaver 11, (157K+ free xp)
4 ½+ months sub remaining
Day 1 ks rewards, twice marked of pharasma, and more
140$ min 220$ bo
Account 2
Day 1 Account, max xp
Solgrid Dual T3 Gatherer Forrestry, Scavenger (miner t2, dowser t2) ( 177k+ Free XP), t2 +2 gathering armor, basic t1 heals
Serra T3 Tailor (15, has xp and already ungated T2+5, can be 16 today with xp to spare!) ( 203k free xp)
Day 1 ks rewards, honorable title, regional trait pack, twice marked, memorial of honor, and more
4 1/2+ months sub remaining
125$ min, 200$ bo
Account 3
Day 1 Account, max xp
Thelon Whiteheart 20.25 dex, weaver 15, Bowyer 11 (132k+ free xp)
Allira Whiteheart 15 tanner, 12 miner (112+ K free xp)
5 1/2+ months sub remaining
Bought from someone else (for way more $), who stated day 1 ks, but cannot guarantee as not my own at time
125$ min, 200$ bo
Account 4
Day 1 Xp
Sakina Silverrain 18.84 wisdom Iconographer 15 cleric t2 secondary (217k+ free xp)
Celayna 19.54 con T3 Miner (mining 14) Smelter 14 (121K+ free xp)
4 ½+ months remaining sub
Ks rewards, Twice marked ect
125$ min, 200$ bo
Account 5
Day 1 xp
Guurzub 14 weaponsmith 10 armorsmith (191k free xp)
Gurzir 14 jewler, 10 artificer (289k free xp)
Ks rewards
8 ½+ months remaining sub
160$ min 240$ bo
Account 6
Day 1 xp
Bling 20.11 dex Gemcutter 15 Leatherworker 12 (104k+ free xp)
Crafty 19.37 personality Sage 15 Dowser 12 (164+ k free xp)
Ks rewards
5 ½+ months remaining sub
125$ min, 200$ bo
Account 7
Since Month 2 xp (still DT)
Need Armorsmith 14 Weaponsmith 10 (134k+ free xp)
Master Apothocary 14 Iconographer 10 (144k+ free xp)
Ks rewards
6 ½+ months remaining sub
100$min 180$ bo
Account8
Since Month 2 xp (still DT)
Nael 18.86 con, 15 sawyer 11 miner 6 smelter (69k+ free xp)
Alky 13 Engineer 11 Alchemist (161K+ free xp)
Ks rewards
10 ½+ months sub remaining!
120$ min 200$ bo
Happy hunting!

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Well, it is about time for me to move on… Looking to sell my Main/ DT account:
Reward Quantity
New Player Pack 0
Destinys Twin 0 (1 = DT already created).
Daily Deals 1
Early Enrollment 1
Memorial of Honor 2
Soundtrack Download 1
1 Month game time 10
Alliance Pack 1
Regional Trait Pack 2
Shield Mate 1
Test Server Access 1
Class Pack 0
Head Start 1
Ticket: Buddy Trial 20
Behind the Scenes PDF 1
Character Name Reservation 1
Twice-Marked of Pharasma 2
Test Server Access 1
Two Characters, both Day 1 (Main and DT), and a 3rd untrained min. XP alt.
Tyv Blodvaerd (Rogue 12 / Fighter 10 / Cleric 4): Unspent XP = 408,540
Qiang Tian Zsu (Fighter 10 / Cleric 6): Unspent XP = 535,758
My asking price is $550, considering it still has 10 months of prepaid game time, but I'm willing to accept nearest best offer.
Note: Both characters are Leaders of settlement of Aragon, so I would likely inform Kenton Stone before any transaction is finalized.

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The speed with which these accounts sell is impressive. Either there are still MANY hopeful players, speculators, or a goodly number of high end disposable income MMO players that have faith in the future and the game's potential. 5 more great accounts just sold very fast without having to list out the details or reach out on many platforms to get noticed.
I find it encouraging.

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The speed with which these accounts sell is impressive. Either there are still MANY hopeful players, speculators, or a goodly number of high end disposable income MMO players that have faith in the future and the game's potential. 5 more great accounts just sold very fast without having to list out the details or reach out on many platforms to get noticed.
I find it encouraging.
Mine sold so quickly out of fear! I sold it cheaply (without profit) out of friendship and respect for Kenton Stone, so he would not to lose all of which he had built in Aragon.
I was only willing to sell at this time because I had to cushion the blow of the wife aggro I was about to receive for dropping nearly $600 on Robert E. Howard's Conan RPG Kickstarter.
When she saw the nearly $600 deduction from account she was like "WTF did you just buy!" I told her "Don't worry it's handled and will be offset by $400 coming back".
I'm grateful to Kenton's friend for depositing the funds in my Paypal account that very hour!
Aggro evaded, and I live to play another day!!

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Quick question for the group: I have two accounts, never activated, that I received from the Kickstarter. Due to various reality reasons I was never able to get on. Is there any value to non-exercised accounts? Iirc there were a lot of in-game perks associated with them. Any information would be appreciated :)