Yes, splash weapons have a size category, because they are weapons.
Before you ask what their size category is, let me ask what the size category of a longbow is. It is not under a table for Light weapons, One-handed weapons, or Two-handed weapons. It is wielded with two hands, but since it is not under the Two-handed weapon table, it is not actually a Two-handed weapon. It is under the category of Ranged weapons.
A weapon's size category isn't the same as its size as an object. Instead, a weapon's size category is keyed to the size of the intended wielder. In general, a light weapon is an object two size categories smaller than the wielder, a one-handed weapon is an object one size category smaller than the wielder, and a two-handed weapon is an object of the same size category as the wielder.
So which of those applies to longbows, since they aren't any of the three categories listed? Ranged weapons don't have a listed size category there, despite being weapons.
Edit: I should be clear, I would like to know the size category of the longbow as an object. It's size category as a weapon is obviously the size category of whoever it was made for/whatever size the crafter wanted to make it for, just like the weapon size category of a bomb is the same as the size category of the alchemist who made it, and the weapon size category of other splash weapons is the same as whatever size the crafter made it for.
...Honestly I should just start over since even with the edit attempt that was a poorly worded post, and I feel bad for that.
All objects in pathfinder have a size category. Doesn't matter whether its a weapon, a key, a piece of furniture, or whatever. This is shown under the Smashing Objects section.
Armor Class: Objects are easier to hit than creatures because they don't usually move, but many are tough enough to shrug off some damage from each blow. An object's Armor Class is equal to 10 + its size modifier (see Table: Size and Armor Class of Objects) + its Dexterity modifier.
Yes, there is one of those wonderful tables for it. Now, weapons have an additional size category, lets call it their 'weapon size category', separate from their size as an object.
Weapon Size: Every weapon has a size category. This designation indicates the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed.
Since splash weapons are thrown weapons (yes you might not agree but lets assume as much at this point) which are weapons, they have a weapon size category. As shown by the bold above, their weapon size category is the same as whatever size the splash weapon is made for. In order to avoid too much bookkeeping, we assume that alchemists make bombs correctly sized for themselves, and adventurers buying splash weapons buy ones that are sized for themselves as well. By RAW, an adventurer in a dungeon could find a splash weapon that is inappropriately sized for them, but that is overlooked because unlike with other weapons, splash weapons do a specifically set type of damage that almost always energy damage, so its not like the damage dice is changed due to the size (after all, something like the Flaming weapon ability doesn't change based off of size either). They should take a penalty for the inappropriate size, its just most DMs/players don't bother/think about the bookkeeping necessary to know whether that is the case or not for a specific splash weapon out of the pile of them that might be in their backpack.
So if you want to know what the weapon size category of a splash weapon is, the answer is: whatever size category person the splash weapon was made for, just like the answer would be for any other weapon. If you want to know the object size of a splash potion, I will somewhat refer to my previous post that the object size of any ranged weapon is missing from the information provided in the rules, so splash weapons are not an exception in that case.
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Sometimes I hate this site. So much. This is one of those times.
If it helps, I'm moving on. To a different thread. The concept that splash weapons that are thrown aren't somehow thrown weapons that splash has made me very upset.
I suggest one of the threads that claim splash weapons can't do full damage to a swarm (so alchemist fires would do only the one point minimum splash). That will calm you right down.
From all the arguments, it seems pretty clear that splash weapons are thrown weapons (special ones that you don't add Strength to). Since unchained rage grants a +2 bonus to damage rolls for thrown weapons, that means alchemist bombs benefit from it.
Great news for my brewmaster concept! Now I can be in a drunken rage, throwing exploding bottles of grog at people.
Splash weapons don't normally add STR to my knowledge.Indeed not, but the Unchained Barbarian doesn't get a bonus to strength, but a bonus to 'melee attack and damage rolls, thrown weapon damage rolls, and Will saves.'
RAI is obviously no, but RAW? Just maybe so.
Correct, but you've missed the point of my comment. If alchemist bombs are "thrown weapons" such that the Unchained barbarian can add her rage bonus to them, then the good old CRB barbarian should have been able to add her STR the entire time.
Correct, but you've missed the point of my comment. If alchemist bombs are "thrown weapons" such that the Unchained barbarian can add her rage bonus to them, then the good old CRB barbarian should have been able to add her STR the entire time.Splash weapons don't normally add STR to my knowledge.Indeed not, but the Unchained Barbarian doesn't get a bonus to strength, but a bonus to 'melee attack and damage rolls, thrown weapon damage rolls, and Will saves.'
RAI is obviously no, but RAW? Just maybe so.
No, she shouldn't have. A +4 morale bonus to strength is a different thing from a +1 untyped bonus to thrown weapon attacks. The strength bonus is explicitly not added to alchemist bombs, while the untyped bonus has no such wording and in fact has wording that indicates it is.
Isn't there a section under splash weapons saying that you don't add your Str bonus to damage? Does it also say that you don't add other damage bonuses?
You can add other damage bonuses. You just can't precision damage. Even if it were true, a FAQ and the alchemist bombs class feature explicitly say you apply damage bonuses as normal to bombs.
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Isn't there a section under splash weapons saying that you don't add your Str bonus to damage? Does it also say that you don't add other damage bonuses?You can add other damage bonuses. You just can't precision damage. Even if it were true, a FAQ and the alchemist bombs class feature explicitly say you apply damage bonuses as normal to bombs.
Could you link the FAQ, please? I don't doubt you, I just like to maximize my awareness of these things. :)
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fn#v5748eaic9neg