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Hey folks! Got a question for you. Has anyone ever seen a real life version of any of the Pathfinder deities' holy/unholy symbols made? That's one of those things I'd love to find, but Google searches always turn up negative.
It's on my bucket list to get a tastefully-sized pendant made of Lamashtu's unholy symbol, probably out of brass or some other cheap metal (was considering doing it out of hammered out bullet casings using spent primers for the eyes), but maybe silver if I ever move up in the world. May even be cool to get one carved from wood.
Does anybody reading this make such things, or know someone who does? Would be pretty cool, if you're of the creative bent.
Because I'm currently in the process of making a Gunslinger Costume without any weapons for Paizo Con, I came across this guy while looking for something good to use for a Wayfinder.
This Guy crafts stuff out of Pewter You should ask him.
Also Consult with Tabber One wonderful explanation of Copyrights for the reason that Paizo may have Hellknight]*ahem* Lawyers that go RAWR ((Like Emerald Spire ones)). Tabber makes a wonderful explanation of what is legal, what is grey, and what is not. She went against Disney in court and won.
You should check that out if you want the guy from etsy to probably make you one. Otherwise you can try clay but actual sculpting is hard work.
Also I make embroidery patches but I'm currently not selling anything at the moment especially pathfinder related.
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Huh. Good point on the copyrights. I can't believe I didn't think about that in relation to WHY I haven't seen any of such symbols being produced. That's unfortunate. In which case, depending on how Paizo reacts to the idea I may just have an actual symbol of Lamashtu from Mesopotamian lore made, given she's a real god by historical/mythological standards. I like Paizo's design for Lamashtu's symbol though, I really do, and would like to be able to use it.
And as a sidenote: The Hellknights at Fort Inevitable are such jerks, I can't begin to say it. Sure I'm a barbaric gnoll warpriest of Lamashtu, but I haven't even done anything chaotic or evil there and I've already got their holy roller paladins and Hellknights there giving me trouble and deathglares. :p
Honestly I don't think it's a problem if you commission one Holy Symbol for yourself. It's the crafting for the masses that will get you in trouble. Besides the Way Pathfinder is, they can't print or do anything Pathfinder without printing a Copyright regarding Wizards of the Coast as Pathfinder would not exist otherwise.
It's like making a Bag out of Seahawks fabric. Seahawks owns their logo and fabric but they do not own what you make out of it. Honestly the laws on copyrights are so fickle especially for the Textile Industry that you so much as change a logo by color or something then you have an Adaption. Deviantart's new logo looks like another company's existing logo that I'm sure there is more legal trouble ish but nothing concrete if you read Tabberone's stuff.
Thing is when you make a Bag out of Seahawks fabric you can't sell it as Seahawks Bag. You have to sell it as Bag made out of Seahawks fabric. It's very fickle like the Fey and the First World.
I'm sure though that if a Holy Symbol were made though, Paizo lawyers may or may not take notice by a legal standpoint.
Interesting to note that Seahawks do not own the 12th man, Texas A&M owns the 12th man even though they didn't create the term. 12th is a number that gets thrown around a lot. Just because a lot of people shout it's theirs doesn't make it theirs.
Still with copyright stuff you need to be careful however I don't see how one badge is pushing boundaries plus there is also the gift or trade but not sell.
Yeah but all sorts of fun legal stuff you need to consider if you're going into the business of creating something, in my case textiles and embroidery. Currently I'm digitising the Factions as embroidery patch-badges. I figure I'll go with make art and cosplay as my Tiefling Gunslinger of Shelyn and pass some patches out for free but their won't be many.
Paizo's people are really nice and patient but I know they are reading this. First thing is first: Reaper project with Sophie which I think I have to just draw her because she's mostly in miniature form and that's too complex for a simple digitising.
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Oh! I'm not intending to make these/have these made to sell, I just want one little pendant to tastefully and appropriately wear at cons and gaming events as a bit of personal flair. Yeah totally, if I started making obviously Paizo stuff to sell I'd be giving the company a call to strike a deal with them. Personal use only here.
Great analogy with the Seahawks fabrics - I do understand you there.
The patches sound like a great idea! Shelyn would be proud.
The Community Use Policy covers quite a lot of ground, actually. If you're looking to mass produce something or make a profit, that is where we make the frowny faces, and we do ask that you talk to community@paizo.com or licensing@paizo.com if you want some of your questions answered.
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If you aren't set on using actual metal I do a lot of my prop making using EVA Foam, aka Craft Foam at most craft stores like Jo-anns and Michaels. I used it to make a holy symbol of Desna when I attended my first Paizocon. With a decent base coat and some paint you can have it look like just about any material, even leather. Its a very soft material, however it holds details exceptionally well and you can get really nice, sharp angles with it. If you're interested let me know and I'll search around for a good tutorial when I'm done with work today. :)
Oh! I'm not intending to make these/have these made to sell, I just want one little pendant to tastefully and appropriately wear at cons and gaming events as a bit of personal flair. Yeah totally, if I started making obviously Paizo stuff to sell I'd be giving the company a call to strike a deal with them. Personal use only here.
Great analogy with the Seahawks fabrics - I do understand you there.
The patches sound like a great idea! Shelyn would be proud.
You might try shapeways they have free downloadable software for 3D design.
And once you have made it you can print in a wide variety of materials and sizes.
If you aren't set on using actual metal I do a lot of my prop making using EVA Foam, aka Craft Foam at most craft stores like Jo-anns and Michaels. I used it to make a holy symbol of Desna when I attended my first Paizocon. With a decent base coat and some paint you can have it look like just about any material, even leather. Its a very soft material, however it holds details exceptionally well and you can get really nice, sharp angles with it. If you're interested let me know and I'll search around for a good tutorial when I'm done with work today. :)
Depending on where you purchase the foam, you might try also purchasing Metal Epoxy clay from like Home Depot or Lowes. When it dries, it dries heavy and has a simalar feel to actual metal despite being polymere-metal type. You may or may not use a lot but it could go over the foam to protect it.
I'm interested in this so I can make a Holy Symbol of Shelyn. By the way, is it Shay Lin or Shell In?
The Community Use Policy covers quite a lot of ground, actually. If you're looking to mass produce something or make a profit, that is where we make the frowny faces, and we do ask that you talk to community@paizo.com or licensing@paizo.com if you want some of your questions answered.
Oh yay fun links! Thank you for these didn't realize you had them.
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If you aren't set on using actual metal I do a lot of my prop making using EVA Foam, aka Craft Foam at most craft stores like Jo-anns and Michaels. I used it to make a holy symbol of Desna when I attended my first Paizocon. With a decent base coat and some paint you can have it look like just about any material, even leather. Its a very soft material, however it holds details exceptionally well and you can get really nice, sharp angles with it. If you're interested let me know and I'll search around for a good tutorial when I'm done with work today. :)Depending on where you purchase the foam, you might try also purchasing Metal Epoxy clay from like Home Depot or Lowes. When it dries, it dries heavy and has a simalar feel to actual metal despite being polymere-metal type. You may or may not use a lot but it could go over the foam to protect it.
Thanks for the recommendation! I enjoy playing with new materials, I'll give it a try in the near future.
I'm interested in this so I can make a Holy Symbol of Shelyn. By the way, is it Shay Lin or Shell In?
I personally pronounce it Shell In.
Sheh-linn for me.
Thank you you three!