paizo.com Recent Posts in Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.paizo.com Recent Posts in Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.2015-03-25T01:02:55Z2015-03-25T01:02:55ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.rknophttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#252015-03-26T12:48:03Z2015-03-26T12:48:03Z<p>There's probably something to be said for no longer having the list at the back of the guide, and instead having a prominent page that makes very clear where you find the list online.</p>There's probably something to be said for no longer having the list at the back of the guide, and instead having a prominent page that makes very clear where you find the list online.rknop2015-03-26T12:48:03ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.Kristen Gipsonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#242015-03-26T01:40:35Z2015-03-26T01:40:35Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">tuypo1 wrote:</div><blockquote> i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update </blockquote><p>Because that list is updated very frequently. It changes pretty close to a weekly basis.
<p>Right now, IT has it setup tp automatically update the organizer page whenever the settings are changed when someone is promoted or resigns as an officer. The list in the back of the guide is something that would have to be updated manually and there are things of higher priority that Paizo makes sure gets done before that.</p>tuypo1 wrote:i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update
Because that list is updated very frequently. It changes pretty close to a weekly basis. Right now, IT has it setup tp automatically update the organizer page whenever the settings are changed when someone is promoted or resigns as an officer. The list in the back of the guide is something that would have to be updated manually and there are things...Kristen Gipson2015-03-26T01:40:35ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.rknophttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#232015-03-26T01:10:02Z2015-03-26T01:10:02Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Blackbot wrote:</div><blockquote>(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) ) </blockquote><p>Venture-Captain Dreng? Is that you?Blackbot wrote:(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )
Venture-Captain Dreng? Is that you?rknop2015-03-26T01:10:02ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.kinevonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#222015-03-26T00:15:08Z2015-03-26T00:15:08Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">bdk86 wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Blackbot wrote:</div><blockquote><p> The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives. </p>
<p>(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) ) </blockquote>Bonus points if you do so dressed as Drendle Drang. </blockquote><p>Only if you get the hair and beard right.
<p>Extra credit if you have Osprey standing in the background, especially if he has a couple of arrows sticking out...</p>bdk86 wrote:Blackbot wrote:The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.
(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )
Bonus points if you do so dressed as Drendle Drang. Only if you get the hair and beard right. Extra credit if you have Osprey standing in the background, especially if he has...kinevon2015-03-26T00:15:08ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.bdk86https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#212015-03-25T17:22:18Z2015-03-25T17:22:18Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Blackbot wrote:</div><blockquote><p> The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives. </p>
<p>(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) ) </blockquote><p>Bonus points if you do so dressed as Drendle Drang.Blackbot wrote:The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.
(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )
Bonus points if you do so dressed as Drendle Drang.bdk862015-03-25T17:22:18ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.TOZ (alias of TriOmegaZero)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#202015-03-25T16:47:36Z2015-03-25T16:47:36Z<p>Sir Jorsal is best Venture Captain.</p>
<p>I need to work on my portrayal of Valsin to make him less of an ass.</p>Sir Jorsal is best Venture Captain.
I need to work on my portrayal of Valsin to make him less of an ass.TOZ (alias of TriOmegaZero)2015-03-25T16:47:36ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.DM Beckett (alias of Beckett)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#192015-03-25T14:30:51Z2015-03-25T14:30:51Z<p>Drendle is pretty much the only one I do not hate with a passion. He is more of a tab bit crazy, trickster (as a form of learning) type, where pretty much all the others are arrogant (and very unreservedly so at that) idiots that take the glory for doing nothing and cant even be bothered to be a pleasant person as they hide behind some pseudo-rank.</p>Drendle is pretty much the only one I do not hate with a passion. He is more of a tab bit crazy, trickster (as a form of learning) type, where pretty much all the others are arrogant (and very unreservedly so at that) idiots that take the glory for doing nothing and cant even be bothered to be a pleasant person as they hide behind some pseudo-rank.DM Beckett (alias of Beckett)2015-03-25T14:30:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.Serisanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#182015-03-25T14:01:25Z2015-03-25T14:01:25Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Blackbot wrote:</div><blockquote><p> The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives. </p>
<p>(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) ) </blockquote><p>Repeat after me: "I am not Drandle Dreng."Blackbot wrote:The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.
(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )
Repeat after me: "I am not Drandle Dreng."Serisan2015-03-25T14:01:25ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.Fomsiehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#172015-03-25T12:35:53Z2015-03-25T12:35:53Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">LazarX wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">tuypo1 wrote:</div><blockquote> i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update </blockquote>Because everything that people want done... takes time in the form of people-hours, of which there is not an infinie supply. </blockquote><p>Well duh! That's what Time Stop is for! lrn2wizardLazarX wrote:tuypo1 wrote: i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update
Because everything that people want done... takes time in the form of people-hours, of which there is not an infinie supply. Well duh! That's what Time Stop is for! lrn2wizardFomsie2015-03-25T12:35:53ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.tuypo1https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#162015-03-25T05:42:51Z2015-03-25T05:42:51Z<p>makes sense</p>makes sensetuypo12015-03-25T05:42:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.LazarXhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#152015-03-25T05:06:08Z2015-03-25T05:06:08Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">tuypo1 wrote:</div><blockquote> i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update </blockquote><p>Because everything that people want done... takes time in the form of people-hours, of which there is not an infinie supply.tuypo1 wrote:i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update
Because everything that people want done... takes time in the form of people-hours, of which there is not an infinie supply.LazarX2015-03-25T05:06:08ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.tuypo1https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#142015-03-25T05:04:03Z2015-03-25T05:04:03Z<p>i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full update</p>i do wonder why they dont update the venture captain list on the pdf as soon as things change instead of waiting for the full updatetuypo12015-03-25T05:04:03ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.kinevonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#132015-03-25T04:58:49Z2015-03-25T04:58:49Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">tuypo1 wrote:</div><blockquote><p> oh god i just realized thats going to include the venture captains</p>
<p>i think i will do everything else first then once i have mastered that move onto venture captains </blockquote><p>For real world VCs, you are better off using the web page, rather than the pages in the Guide, since there have been changes...tuypo1 wrote:oh god i just realized thats going to include the venture captains
i think i will do everything else first then once i have mastered that move onto venture captains
For real world VCs, you are better off using the web page, rather than the pages in the Guide, since there have been changes...kinevon2015-03-25T04:58:49ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.tuypo1https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#122015-03-25T04:05:47Z2015-03-25T04:05:47Z<p>oh god i just realized thats going to include the venture captains</p>
<p>i think i will do everything else first then once i have mastered that move onto venture captains</p>oh god i just realized thats going to include the venture captains
i think i will do everything else first then once i have mastered that move onto venture captainstuypo12015-03-25T04:05:47ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.LazarXhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#112015-03-26T04:43:17Z2015-03-25T03:57:01Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">bsctgod wrote:</div><blockquote><p> This is my PFS Guide! There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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My PFS Guide is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. </p>
<p>;-) </blockquote><p>Until the revised edition comes out next year.bsctgod wrote:This is my PFS Guide! There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My PFS Guide is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. ;-)
Until the revised edition comes out next year.LazarX2015-03-25T03:57:01ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.bsctgodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#102015-03-26T04:43:14Z2015-03-25T03:55:09Z<p>This is my PFS Guide! There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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My PFS Guide is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. </p>
<p>;-)</p>This is my PFS Guide! There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My PFS Guide is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
;-)bsctgod2015-03-25T03:55:09ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.tuypo1https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#92015-03-25T02:37:27Z2015-03-25T02:37:27Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Blackbot wrote:</div><blockquote><p> The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives. </p>
<p>(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) ) </blockquote><p>i got myself a project now im gonna practice until i know the whole thing off by heartBlackbot wrote:The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.
(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )
i got myself a project now im gonna practice until i know the whole thing off by hearttuypo12015-03-25T02:37:27ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.Blackbothttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#82015-03-25T02:26:07Z2015-03-25T02:26:07Z<p><a href="http://www.archivesofnethys.com/DeityDetails.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Archives of Nethys have a list with all available deities, sorted by alignment.</a></p>
<p>It also notes where you can find the deities if they're not in the core rules.</p>The Archives of Nethys have a list with all available deities, sorted by alignment.
It also notes where you can find the deities if they're not in the core rules.Blackbot2015-03-25T02:26:07ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.BartonOliverhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#72015-03-25T02:13:18Z2015-03-25T02:13:18Z<p>Just to clarify the one step rule, which sometimes gets confused. If you want to be NG, than you could pick a god with any of the following alignments: LG, NG, CG, or N. (A lot gods however they will require an additional book to the CRB)</p>Just to clarify the one step rule, which sometimes gets confused. If you want to be NG, than you could pick a god with any of the following alignments: LG, NG, CG, or N. (A lot gods however they will require an additional book to the CRB)BartonOliver2015-03-25T02:13:18ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.Blackbothttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#62015-03-25T02:09:09Z2015-03-25T02:09:09Z<p>The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives. </p>
<p>(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )</p>The whole POINT of an oracle is that it does not have to have a deity. It may have one, but this deity is in no way connected to the powers the oracle receives.
(Also: Serves you right for not reading the Guide to Organized Play! You should be able to recite it if I wake you up at 3 am! ;) )Blackbot2015-03-25T02:09:09ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.bsctgodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#52015-03-25T01:38:51Z2015-03-25T01:38:51Z<p>Cool. My oracle was called on it at a convention for not having a deity. I will have to remember this.</p>Cool. My oracle was called on it at a convention for not having a deity. I will have to remember this.bsctgod2015-03-25T01:38:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.Jack of Nothinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#42015-03-25T01:20:24Z2015-03-25T01:20:24Z<p>Hm, shame. Oh well worth a shot.</p>Hm, shame. Oh well worth a shot.Jack of Nothing2015-03-25T01:20:24ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.Blackbothttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#32015-03-25T01:06:49Z2015-03-25T01:06:49Z<p>Not having a deity with a divine class is not PFS legal.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Guide do Pathfinder Society Organized Play, p. 10 wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Clerics, inquisitors, paladins, cavaliers of the order of the star, and samurai of the order of the star must choose a deity as all classes in Golarion that receive spells and abilities from a specific divine source receive their powers from a deity. Druids, oracles, and rangers are the exception to this rule.
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</blockquote><p>This is a case of "Yeah, the rulebook states that it can be this way, but in our 'default' setting it does not work like that."Not having a deity with a divine class is not PFS legal.
Guide do Pathfinder Society Organized Play, p. 10 wrote:Clerics, inquisitors, paladins, cavaliers of the order of the star, and samurai of the order of the star must choose a deity as all classes in Golarion that receive spells and abilities from a specific divine source receive their powers from a deity. Druids, oracles, and rangers are the exception to this rule.
This is a case of "Yeah, the rulebook states that it can be this way,...Blackbot2015-03-25T01:06:49ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.Blakmanehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#22015-03-25T01:06:09Z2015-03-25T01:06:09Z<p>Unfortunately in PFS you •must• have a deity for classes that request them (Cleric, Paladin and Inquisitor) and cannot choose to champion an ideal. </p>
<p>Remember that your deity can be within one step of your alignment, which opens up your choices a bit.</p>Unfortunately in PFS you *must* have a deity for classes that request them (Cleric, Paladin and Inquisitor) and cannot choose to champion an ideal.
Remember that your deity can be within one step of your alignment, which opens up your choices a bit.Blakmane2015-03-25T01:06:09ZForums: Pathfinder Society: Divine Classes not having a Deity? Plz explain.Jack of Nothinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s3n1?Divine-Classes-not-having-a-Deity-Plz-explain#12015-03-25T01:02:55Z2015-03-25T01:02:55Z<p>So I was kind of digging the idea of an Inquisitor but couldn't really find a deity that matched the alignment I was aiming for (neutral good), gave access to inquisitions/domains that provided fun benefits and stood for something I could have fun really standing for. Now I have heard somewhere that Divine classes can instead of a deity have some sort of ideal they champion instead. Is there a list of acceptable ideas or can I just come up with one? How does this affect my domain/Inquisition choices? Do I lose the weapon proficiency of my deity class ability since I don't have one?</p>
<p>ALSO if not having a deity with a divine class is not PFS legal plz let me know. K THX</p>So I was kind of digging the idea of an Inquisitor but couldn't really find a deity that matched the alignment I was aiming for (neutral good), gave access to inquisitions/domains that provided fun benefits and stood for something I could have fun really standing for. Now I have heard somewhere that Divine classes can instead of a deity have some sort of ideal they champion instead. Is there a list of acceptable ideas or can I just come up with one? How does this affect my domain/Inquisition...Jack of Nothing2015-03-25T01:02:55Z