i would assume its already being covered with a few simple stipulations but i cant find anything
its something that can be fixed pretty easily but still worth mention
the Field Scrivener’s Desk produces 50 sheets of paper per day and with time being unspecified one could just get infinite money. of course this is easy fixed with a simple can not be used outside an adventure
i suppose the same thing can be said of the robe of infinite twine but that would likely need an additional cant sell the rope stipulation. (the robe of infinite twine is a great item so much rope to help you on your adventure)
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I decided to accept this thread as a challenge to come up with ridiculous but apparently legal ways to exploit gold.
Off the top of my head I came up with:
Having lots of babies, and selling them all as slaves.
I think that's technically legal (you can say you largely do whatever you want between adventures..), but reprehensible enough to count as moving your character to Evil and thus ineligible for continued PFS play. You could theoretically keep buying Atonements, but you'd have to have sold quite a few of your children for that to turn a profit.
You can only sell items for half of what you paid for them =)
oh yes i forgot about that bit its half of payment not half of value
I decided to accept this thread as a challenge to come up with ridiculous but apparently legal ways to exploit gold.
Off the top of my head I came up with:
Having lots of babies, and selling them all as slaves.
I think that's technically legal (you can say you largely do whatever you want between adventures..), but reprehensible enough to count as moving your character to Evil and thus ineligible for continued PFS play. You could theoretically keep buying Atonements, but you'd have to have sold quite a few of your children for that to turn a profit.
wouldn't it fail because there is no price given anywhere for selling your children
also what nefreet said you did not pay anything for those babys so you cant sell them
the having to pay to sell it stipulation cuts down pretty much all the exploits
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Take the Spark of Creation trait for a 5% discount on crafting materials, then sell for the usual(not discounted) cost. Tell no one. >.>
wouldent it be better to just keep the chickens so they can keep making eggs
but of course in the end that still gets foiled by only being able to sell objects you purchased
What if you "pay" the chicken for its services to lay eggs? ;)
your still only selling the eggs for half of what you payed the chicken
But you can keep extra made items. So you can horde a bunch of stuff. And you can bribe NPCs with it. Just because you can't sell it for its value because you didn't pay for it doesn't mean it doesn't have value.
bribing pcs is not the example i would have used but yes things that make items can save you money in the long run just because you no longer have to buy those items
get a robe of infinite twine and bring up the your carrying capacity on each adventure every time you pick something up just discard some rope
that way when you need a bunch of rope you dont need to waste several rounds pulling it all out
hell bring enough and you can probably leave the robe at home and bring a different robe
are you allowed to leave equipment you own behind or do you have to keep everything with you at all times because carrying around your migrus locker with you everywhere you go just seems impractical.
the rules here make enough sense in a home game you are restricted by time when it comes to making money but in the society time between scenarios is infinite and the have to pay for it stipulation fixs everything
besides a gm should not be fighting against his players
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You can only sell items for half of what you paid for them =)
I see you have made this claim and stated it is in the guide, can you say specifically where it is? Because I am not finding it and while I have yet to have any shenanigans related to this attempted at my locale, I always like to have specific special rules marked so I can pull them out when/if needed.
The only thing sort of in this vein in the guide is under the Character Death section, and states:
"Please note that players can (and are encouraged to) share or pool their resources in order to bring a dead party member back to life. They may not, however, pool Prestige Points to do so, even if they’re from the same faction. PCs can also sell off gear, including the dead character’s gear, at 50% of its listed value to raise money to purchase a spell that will return their slain ally from the dead, though they can only do so in a settlement and they cannot sell off any items found during the current scenario that they haven’t purchased."
However, that doesn't say that you can only sell something you have purchased, only that you cannot sell off items from the current scenario that you have yet to purchase.
Similarly, the Prestige section specifically calls out items purchased with prestige as having a value of 0 and being unable to be sold, but there is no specific mention other items.
As the PRD says items sell for half the "listed price" and not "what you paid for it", it is no help either.
Was there a ruling in a FAQ or message post by Mike or John somewhere?
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selling a spellbook for half price FAQ
You may sell it back for half, but only for the spells that were scribed and paid for, not that were gained for free through boons, gaining a level or any other means of gaining a spell for free.
I see you have made this claim and stated it is in the guide, can you say specifically where it is? Because I am not finding it and while I have yet to have any shenanigans related to this attempted at my locale, I always like to have specific special rules marked so I can pull them out when/if needed.
In general, a character can sell something for half its listed
price, including weapons, armor, gear, and magic items.
This also includes character-created items.
Trade goods are the exception to the half-price rule. A
trade good, in this sense, is a valuable good that can be
easily exchanged almost as if it were cash itself.
Edit: The PRD link is here, scroll down a screen or two to the heading "Selling Treasure".
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selling a spellbook for half price FAQ
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I see you have made this claim and stated it is in the guide, can you say specifically where it is? Because I am not finding it and while I have yet to have any shenanigans related to this attempted at my locale, I always like to have specific special rules marked so I can pull them out when/if needed.** spoiler omitted **
That's great... except it doesn't say what Nefreet was saying, it say "listed price", which is very different from "what you paid for it". Which is why I wanted a link to an official PFS rule so I could add it to my GM book, since it isn't actually in the guide either (save in reference to prestige purchased items).
The links TOZ/Steven posted are what I was looking for, basically an official campaign specific ruling.
that would be a good way of saving money yes
although that would probably have to be restricted to what you find on an adventure and as always you would not be able to keep it when you go home so you would have to use it in the scenario you found it in
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Some of the ideas I've seen here would qualify quite well as day jobs.
Want to catch halflings and sell them as slaves? That's profession (slaver).
(I'm not going to talk about selling your own children, because normal PC races give birth to one child at a time (with 9 months of pregnancy for humans, I don't know about the other races at the moment), so that's not much to make money from :P )
Want some chickens to lay eggs you can sell? That's profession (farmer) or Handle Animal (with a Farmstead vanity to be able to use it for your day job).
yup