Why is everyone gaga over the Eldritch Guardian?


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Rynjin. Just because 5 people post about an archetype you don't like, doesn't mean "Everyone is gaga over it.".

There have been a lot of folks who wanted familliars without taking spellcasting classes. The book it appeared in, answered that need... for the most part.


LazarX wrote:

Rynjin. Just because 5 people post about an archetype you don't like, doesn't mean "Everyone is gaga over it.".

There have been a lot of folks who wanted familliars without taking spellcasting classes. The book it appeared in, answered that need... for the most part.

I had seen a lot more than 5 people post about it (it's cropped up in every discussion about Fighters recently). I hadn't decided whether I liked it or not yet, so I asked people to explain why it was considered good.

They have. There's some neat things you can do with it.

Still not with Greatsword monkeys though, sadly.


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Greatsword monkeys?


Ravingdork wrote:
Greatsword monkeys?

Yes, Greatsword monkeys.

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Rynjin wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:
Greatsword monkeys?
Yes, Greatsword monkeys.

Now possible, via Decoy Familiar archetype, at level 11... although it will be clean-shaven ape! :)


Rynjin wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:
Greatsword monkeys?
Yes, Greatsword monkeys.

That's small potatoes, call me when there's a monkey musketeer firing squad.


A monkey with a sword always reminds me of the Aladdin movie. I now question how this comes up so often...


Scythia wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:
Greatsword monkeys?
Yes, Greatsword monkeys.
That's small potatoes, call me when there's a monkey musketeer firing squad.

Master summoner with a wand of bestow weapon proficiency?


Scythia wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:
Greatsword monkeys?
Yes, Greatsword monkeys.
That's small potatoes, call me when there's a monkey musketeer firing squad.

Eldritch guardian 3/ Alchemist X.

Grab a tumor familiar and a homunculus archetype as well (or not, depends on DM ruling). Grab proficiency. Now, chug down a few portions of Duplicate Familiar.

Presto! Monkey gunline.


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Scythia wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:
Greatsword monkeys?
Yes, Greatsword monkeys.
That's small potatoes, call me when there's a monkey musketeer firing squad.

He's got a gun!


Glutton wrote:
Scythia wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:
Greatsword monkeys?
Yes, Greatsword monkeys.
That's small potatoes, call me when there's a monkey musketeer firing squad.
He's got a gun!

Guns don't kill people, monkeys do (if they've got a gun).

Edited: I added a link too. One of us...


If we are posting links.


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This monkey has an AK-47.


If I gave a monkey a Str based weapon it would probably be something with reach for use with Paired Opportunists. I guess any Mauler could have a natural weapon with reach if you take Evolved Familiar. That makes me think of a giant fiddler crab.


One day I want to build a pc with a familiar that joins the fight and give it bleed via evolved familiar. Something small that normally does 1d3-2 or the like. Now it just has to attack and hit once during the fight and it deals 1d6 bleed per turn.
Not overwhelming but I like the idea that my thrush familiar can make enemies bleed to death.

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