prestigie classes for the barbarian


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I have a quick question. Are their any presitgue classes that scream this is for the barbarian? All I seem to fi d is the rage prophet. Am I missing something or does matter st of the prestige classes favor magic users?

Liberty's Edge

There's the Frenzied Berserker from D&D 3.5e's Complete Warrior. No DM has ever let me take it since I started tabletop gaming ten years ago.

Words cannot describe it, this is one of those "Get a copy of the book and look for yourself" deals.


There is Ulfen Guard that about all off the top of my head that scream barbarian, but there are others that could fit well.


Frenzied Berserker is hilarious. I would allow one in as a GM, as it's a fun ticking time bomb, and it would make me laugh if the Berserker started to go apesh!t on his comrades. Though all foes must be dead first, but once that happens... look out!

If the PCs want to kick that character (not the player, hopefully!) out of the group in character, I would also allow that (and tell the player that this is a possibility- but let him make a new PC if it comes to that).


Robert Carter 58 wrote:

Frenzied Berserker is hilarious. I would allow one in as a GM, as it's a fun ticking time bomb, and it would make me laugh if the Berserker started to go apesh!t on his comrades. Though all foes must be dead first, but once that happens... look out!

If the PCs want to kick that character (not the player, hopefully!) out of the group in character, I would also allow that (and tell the player that this is a possibility- but let him make a new PC if it comes to that).

Once played in a party with one, and yes he did attack a party member, was paralyzed and nearly CDGed, party had a debate over that, I lost and he was given the choice of leaving after the hold wore off, or of being greated as an enemy combatant. Character chose to leave.


Living Monolith is a pretty great thing for a Barbarian. One level gets you Enlarge Person 3/day as a swift action, at character level; eventually you're getting Righteous Might. So go on... have a BIG rage.

I really like Dragon Disciple for a Barbarian as well, though it requires at least a little magic; the raging dragon flavor is great. Barbarian actually multiclasses better than most martials, since they get their basic rage right up front and get a lot of bang for buck with Extra Rage. Mixing rage with pre-cast magic is really powerful for melee gold like Mirror Image or Monstrous Physique, and especially for being able to cross Greater Magic Weapon with a Furious, Courageous weapon.

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Snorb wrote:

There's the Frenzied Berserker from D&D 3.5e's Complete Warrior. No DM has ever let me take it since I started tabletop gaming ten years ago.

Words cannot describe it, this is one of those "Get a copy of the book and look for yourself" deals.

You have only played a Barbarian character once in those 10 years, and it was after we switched to Pathfinder.

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Coridan wrote:
Snorb wrote:

There's the Frenzied Berserker from D&D 3.5e's Complete Warrior. No DM has ever let me take it since I started tabletop gaming ten years ago.

Words cannot describe it, this is one of those "Get a copy of the book and look for yourself" deals.

You have only played a Barbarian character once in those 10 years, and it was after we switched to Pathfinder.

Nope, twice! (Kara in the first go at Skull & Shackles, Thorson in our aborted Reign of Winter run)

The Exchange

Depending on your deity (Gorum) Sentinel or Evangelist can be very thematically appropriate. Pit Fighter is definitely a good fit. Depending on how you play your barbarian a Steel Falcon might work. If you are a Mad Dog (archetype) barbarian, Mammoth Rider is fun.

Liberty's Edge

Snorb wrote:
Coridan wrote:
Snorb wrote:

There's the Frenzied Berserker from D&D 3.5e's Complete Warrior. No DM has ever let me take it since I started tabletop gaming ten years ago.

Words cannot describe it, this is one of those "Get a copy of the book and look for yourself" deals.

You have only played a Barbarian character once in those 10 years, and it was after we switched to Pathfinder.
Nope, twice! (Kara in the first go at Skull & Shackles, Thorson in our aborted Reign of Winter run)

Still, both after we switched to Pathfinder =p


Surprised nobody has mentioned Rage Prophet yet, though I suppose that's really more Barbarian/Oracle.

Edit: Derp, never mind, I missed it.


Dragon Disciple is pretty heinous for a Barbarian.

You wouldn't think that losing out a bit on BAB is okay, but going in with Barb 4 Sorc 1 means you'll have +9 BAB at lv12, so 3/4 BAB, and you'll actually have a more-powerful Rage than a Barbarian of equal level because the +4 Str +2 Con means you'll be raging at +8 Str, +6 Con.

Barbarian 4/Sorcerer 1/DD (x) vs Bloodrager 12 vs Barbarian 12 are pretty much equal in effectiveness.

If your DM allows an RAI reading of DD (meaning DD stacks with Bloodrager Bloodlines instead of only Sorcerer, since at the time of DD's writing there weren't Bloodlines besides Sorcerer), then Bloodrager 5/DD (X) is also quite as hilariously strong as the other 3 methods.


Chengar Qordath wrote:
Surprised nobody has mentioned Rage Prophet yet, though I suppose that's really more Barbarian/Oracle.

OP Himself mentioned it.

And, sadly, the Rage Prophet puts a LOT more emphasis on the Oracle half than the Barbarian side.

If Prophet stacked with Barbarian levels to determine rounds of Rage, then I'd say Rage Prophet is a much-more powerful/useful Prestige Class than it currently is.


Oh, also, Barbarian makes an extremely powerful Stalwart Defender just by itself.


chbgraphicarts wrote:
You wouldn't think that losing out a bit on BAB is okay, but going in with Barb 4 Sorc 1 means you'll have +9 BAB at lv12, so 3/4 BAB

Or you can even drop one more point of BAB to go 1B/4S/4DD/EK, taking Extra Rages to cover the gap and picking up all of that tremendous Sorcerer goodness three levels sooner. Losing out on 3 BAB isn't that big a deal when you've got Dragon Disciple strength, Barbarian rage, and access to everything from Haste to Heroism - plus especially the powerhouse that is a Furious Courageous weapon with level 8 Greater Magic Weapon +2 cast on it - much, much sooner. Monstrous Physique II means it's raging-dragon-calikang time. When you've picked up the best stuff Dragon Disciple and the bloodline has to offer by DD4, you just roll on into Eldritch Knight for free combat feats, better BAB and better spellcasting.


BadBird wrote:
chbgraphicarts wrote:
You wouldn't think that losing out a bit on BAB is okay, but going in with Barb 4 Sorc 1 means you'll have +9 BAB at lv12, so 3/4 BAB
Or you can even drop one more point of BAB to go 1B/4S/4DD/EK, taking Extra Rages to cover the gap and picking up all of that tremendous Sorcerer goodness three levels sooner. Losing out on 3 BAB isn't that big a deal when you've got Dragon Disciple strength, Barbarian rage, and access to everything from Haste to Heroism - plus especially the powerhouse that is a Furious Courageous weapon with level 8 Greater Magic Weapon +2 cast on it - much, much sooner. Monstrous Physique II means it's raging-dragon-calikang time. When you've picked up the best stuff Dragon Disciple and the bloodline has to offer by DD4, you just roll on into Eldritch Knight for free combat feats, better BAB and better spellcasting.

You'd need barb 2 for this to work, as you don't get rage powers till then. Otherwise you can't take the feat, extra rage power


we had a frenzied berserker in a game years ago. was a lot of fun, my character took some grapple focus feats so I could hold down the berserker when the fight was over.


Chess Pwn wrote:
You'd need barb 2 for this to work, as you don't get rage powers till then. Otherwise you can't take the feat, extra rage power

I was referring to taking Extra Rage, rather than Extra Rage Power.

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