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It depends on where you are and who you VC is.
In a rural area, you might find yourself driving to a lot of game nights in local towns to GM and organize.
In the city, you might run a lot of games closer to home.
I find that I run school clubs (I'm a teacher), and also support at conventions, where my extra-loud voice and person-herding abilities come in handy.
Most likely, a VL will be running multiple games a month. You will also be answering rules questions, organizing events, and helping new players. If I am in error, or anyone would like to add, please feel free.
Nick
Venture-Lieutenant, Indiana—Indianapolis
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In my area, I have a need for more GMs. So, I have tasked one of the VLs in Indy to work on GM Development and recruitment. He will be responsible for coordinating and presenting GM 101 workshops and the like.
So, some VLs have responsibilities that aren't game schedule or game day related.
It all depends upon the needs of the region and the VCs view of how to address those needs.
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So, some VLs have responsibilities that aren't game schedule or game day related.
It all depends upon the needs of the region and the VCs view of how to address those needs.
Yup, since i work on computers, and troll the boards a lot, one of my responsibilities is to tell my VC if there is a thread he needs to read, and possibly chime in on.
Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria
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I would like to add that once you are VC or VL you are no longer allowed to be mean to people on the boards.
If you break that rule apparently, apparently some people feel that getting told that they are wrong by a VL is pretty much literally worse than several genocides...
One of the reasons why one of our local VLs really doesn't post very much at all here... of course since I am completely unfettered, I can agree or disagree with pretty much everybody, without causing undue stress peoples nether regions.
Obviously being a VL is an be a pretty thankless job, and it seems mostly fit for quite motivated people with spare free time, just like with most GMs, be happy that you don't have to pay them - their time and money investment is pretty significant.
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I have to say, that even though some would call it a thankless job, I would have to disagree. The VLs in San Diego are quite knowledgeable and are willing to help anyone with a question or three. Personally, I highly appreciate the help with organizing, conducting, and general attitude when it comes to the game days. Would be nice to know as to what munchies I can provide them on game days as well...... Not to bribe anyone of course.....
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I have found that I do whatever my VC needs me to do. Whether that be organizing a convention, just helping out as a GM at a local venue, or functioning as a walking help desk for GM's and players. As many have mentioned it can be a fairly thankless job especially when you have to step in and mediate disputes between players and GM's. Generally though I enjoy it and like the extra responsibility that comes with it. I am curious to see what else lies in store for me as I continue with this position.
Regional Venture-Coordinator, Massachusetts—North Shore
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Being a VL is only Thankless if you think of it that way. I have been a VL since April 2011 there have been a lot of ups and downs but when I look at all of the people that I have had a chance to run games for, play with and work with to help make the PFS community in my region stronger.
It has been worth every minute I have been one.
:D
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Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria
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I have to say, that even though some would call it a thankless job, I would have to disagree. The VLs in San Diego are quite knowledgeable and are willing to help anyone with a question or three. Personally, I highly appreciate the help with organizing, conducting, and general attitude when it comes to the game days. Would be nice to know as to what munchies I can provide them on game days as well...... Not to bribe anyone of course.....
So far 100 % of my sample group have reacted quite well to cookies, and I am considering to ask a couple of regular to chip in and get him a box of pawns he does not yet have.
For the last game day, I prepared a combination of shortbread and earl grey muffins, people seemed to like them.Oh and when people like me call it thankless work, it is usually in reference that a lot of the things VL and other organizers do, is behind the scenes. If everything works swimmingly, their work really doesn't come into focus.
Also providing food to your GMs is not a bribe, but you might want to consider your choices, fatty food like pizza can be a bit tiring.
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It is also normally the job of the VL to eventually replace their VC? So they might be groomed into the position slowly so the transition is seamless. Or if the VC suddenly has to leave the job (voluntarily or involuntarily) then an VL can be ugraded pretty quickly.
Your are making it sound like VCs and VLs are like Sith and their apprentices, frankly I am not sure most would agree ^^
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Being a VL is only Thankless if you think of it that way. I have been a VL since April 2011 there have been a lot of ups and downs but when I look at all of the people that I have had a chance to run games for, play with and work with to help make the PFS community in my region stronger.
It has been worth every minute I have been one.
:D
When I spoke of it being a thankless job I met we don't often get a lot of praise or recognition for what is we do in the background. Not that I believe the job it self is thankless. I personally find a lot of enjoyment with what I do and get out of it.
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@Sarvei: That is probably why your VC has a VL, to cover an area that is difficult for him to reach regularly.
@Roger: If there is a nearby VC, you could discuss with him/her becoming a VL for them in your city. That would give you additional support you can call on, if you need it, without breaking the Paizo model. VCs cover a lot of territory. So much, in fact, that a recent VC retirement included splitting her territory in two.
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But can I be an independent venture lieutenant, without a Captain above me? There isn't any captain in my city, and I'm not sure I've enough time to be captain.
You can email me and we can discuss
I have tremendous appreciation for everything VCs and VLs do for their regions. Without them, PFS simply wouldn't be as awesome as it is.
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@Sarvei: That is probably why your VC has a VL, to cover an area that is difficult for him to reach regularly.
@Roger: If there is a nearby VC, you could discuss with him/her becoming a VL for them in your city. That would give you additional support you can call on, if you need it, without breaking the Paizo model. VCs cover a lot of territory. So much, in fact, that a recent VC retirement included splitting her territory in two.
Actually it was split into four and we currently have only appointed two of the four VCs.
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Regional Venture-Coordinator, Massachusetts—North Shore
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When I spoke of it being a thankless job I met we don't often get a lot of praise or recognition for what is we do in the background. Not that I believe the job it self is thankless. I personally find a lot of enjoyment with what I do and get out of it.Being a VL is only Thankless if you think of it that way. I have been a VL since April 2011 there have been a lot of ups and downs but when I look at all of the people that I have had a chance to run games for, play with and work with to help make the PFS community in my region stronger.
It has been worth every minute I have been one.
:D
Joe I was answering the thankless comment from above yours but you answered first and home chaos after I posted. I did not see you wrote first.
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Venture-Lieutenant, Indiana—Indianapolis
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@Sarvei: That is probably why your VC has a VL, to cover an area that is difficult for him to reach regularly.
@Roger: If there is a nearby VC, you could discuss with him/her becoming a VL for them in your city. That would give you additional support you can call on, if you need it, without breaking the Paizo model. VCs cover a lot of territory. So much, in fact, that a recent VC retirement included splitting her territory in two.
The same thing happened to Indiana. Indiana had two VCs - one for Ft. Wayne (Northeastern part of the state) and the surrounding area, the other for everywhere else. When the Indy VC stepped down, Mike split Indiana into 5 regions - one with the existing Ft. Wayne VC, and the rest of the area into 4 new ones. The VCs then mapped out the new regions, dividing up the counties, etc. So far, it seems to be working out really well.
Volunteer work really is great, but realistically, there's only so much travel you can do to get to events, game stores, etc. Smaller areas (but not too small) makes the workload much more manageable.
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You're are making it sound like VCs and VLs are like Sith and their apprentices, frankly I am not sure most would agree
No, that is pretty accurate. There is a reason no one hears from Mister Slanky much these days.
I suppose I should strike first if I want to avoid a Jedi Civil War with the guy across the river. I mean, it is the Sith thing to do.
