I just got all the class decks and now I'm wondering what everyone does to store these. I haven't sleeved and don't think I will anytime soon but I don't want to keep stuffing them into the boxes they came in. I was wondering if that broken token insert would fit an entire adventure path and the class decks unsleeved. I don't really intent to take part in organized play either so the ultra pro towers may or may not be the way to go.
My other question is has anyone found a proven way to incorporate the good stuff from the class decks for play? Should I only include the unique cards from the class decks or all of it for each class being played or every single card? Has anyone experimented with these and how was it? Does it become boring when you add them all? If anyone has tried just was wondering what you experienced.
Thank you everyone.
Additional question... is there a second printing of rotr base set? It drives me crazy that the back of the cards is a different color from base set and adv 1 to everything else.
This thread might answer your second question. I went the route of adding all the class decks I bought together, and removing any duplicates, then adding the cards that were left to the base game (as long as they weren't duplicates of cards in the base game).
I cannot answer the storage question as I still stuff them into their boxes myself.
But I can tell you my experience with adding the boons to RotR.
As a 4 player group of Merisiel, Seoni, Seelah, and Kyra, we added 6 Class Decks (all but the Bard Class Deck). Initially I thought of adding only the unique boons, but I decided to just add all the cards.
This eventually put me at a weird situation where there were too much cards to fit the Paizo insert, so we had to remove cards. Starting Adventure 4, we started removing basics from the class decks, then basics that are multiples until it can fit the insert. Same with Adventure 5/6 and Elite.
Overall, the experience was great. We never encountered the same boon more than twice, and our gear were also subpar throughout the adventure path. I knew that RotR had a low fail rate, so on top of adding an extra location each scenario, diluting the pool of boons was our way of increasing the difficulty.
Now that I have a group playing S&S and another group playing RotR, I had to make a decision on what Class Deck to add to which set. What we are doing now is we split all the Class Decks into both sets. Prioritizing on our S&S group, we hand picked which cards goes into the S&S box, and the rest would go to RotR.
We laid out all the cards from the class decks and sorted them by type. We then removed any multiples of the same card (For example, there are 2 Deathbane Light Crossbow +1s so we removed one). Then we checked if a card from the Class deck already appears in S&S, if it does, we remove it. And finally, we looked at the cards that we would definitely not attempt to acquire, and removed those as well. The cards then go to our S&S box, and the removed ones goes to RotR.
Both groups don't seem to mind the method we used. Initially, I didn't want to add any class deck cards on our S&S set. However, my siblings helped buy the class decks so having not able to use those decks on our playthrough made me feel bad.
And definitely yes for 2nd printing RotR base set. It is much harder to find 1st printings nowadays in my opinion. Funny enough I have 2nd printing base set and add-on, but 1st printings for adventures 2-6.
To address your concern about the back of the cards, try doing what we did. when drawing from location decks, we draw from the bottom. We put the location cards on top of the pile as to not reveal what printing the top card has. If any card refers to the top or the bottom of the location deck, it is reversed. It was confusing at first but we got it down after a while and we don't get spoiled by the prints on the back. All these of course can be solved by sleeving.
I think the broken token insert would work an adventure path and the 7 current class decks, if they were unsleeved. The problem with storage for the class decks is going to be that there will be more and more class decks. Eventually there will be too many for a box to hold.
You can get some cardboard card holders. Or you can try this:
It goes in the Wooden Artist Case from Hobby Lobby. See what it looks like here. But it would probably be cheaper to get the case from Hobby Lobby and just the insert from the Broken Token.
I'm strongly considering that to store all my class decks. Either that or track down an old library card catalog. But that doesn't seem to be quite as portable.
Is there a visual difference on the 1st and 2nd edition printings of the rotr base set ?
Is there a visual difference on the 1st and 2nd edition printings of the rotr base set ?
Yes. To some people it doesn't bug them, but to most it does.
Hawkmoon's Link.
Thanks.
Hawkmoon's Link.Thanks.
That looks really great! I might be getting that this weekend. Thanks!
Is there a difference on the actual box for the rotr base sets between editions 1 and 2?
Yes. Look on the bottom of the box. It should say "Printed in China" for the first edition and "Second Printing. Printed in the USA." for the second edition.
Is there a difference on the actual box for the rotr base sets between editions 1 and 2?
The first printing opens from the top. The second printing opens from the side and has a larger hang tab.
I think it is a Hobby Lobby product. There are similar products other places (Amazon for example) but with different dimensions. You can order one with the insert already in it from the Broken Token. Other than buying from Hobby Lobby (link here), I'm not sure you'll find it elsewhere.
Actually just for the fun of giving you a French link - but you certainly can find the same on your side of the pond - I find it really great to have card cases as those.
Pretty easy to sort character decks, basic/elite cards that where removed from the game, additional characters stored for my friends that aren't available for all games, prepared games (e. g. I can prepare location decks before my friends arrive) and so on. Since it's transparent and of different colors, I don't need to open a box to know which box I need to open anytime I have to grab something that's not in the base box. And you can pile them in shelves...
My wife and I have begun our class deck acquisition, and we ran into a similar storage problem, but our solution works for us so I thought I'd share. We initially were trying to find a storage system that would allow us to sleeve heavy-use cards (characters, locations, adventures, ships), while still keeping our original box insert so we could keep our adventure deck and character add-on deck boxes in the box ('cause we're cool/lame like that). We're happy with what we have now.
First, we purchased the Dual Deck Box to store our character cards. We wanted something that said "Pathfinder" for all of our lovely characters sitting one out on the bench. It holds 180 cards sleeved, so it works great for what we've got so far and into the near future:
RotR: 11 characters x 3 cards each = 33 cards
S&S: 11 characters x 3 cards each = 33 cards
Class Decks: 7 decks x 4 characters each x 3 cards each character = 84 cards
WotR: (assuming) 11 characters x 3 cards each = 33 cards (plus maybe as many as 7 extra for mythic cards)
Promo Characters: 2 characters x 4 cards each = 8 cards
So, altogether it comes out to 198, which is over the 180 limit, but my wife and I play two characters each, and we're going to start PFSACG as soon as our S&S run is done, so we'll always have at least 12 cards removed from the box, and the 180 limit is somewhat flexible from my stress tests, so 186 shouldn't be a problem. After WotR, or if new class decks are introduced for Season 1 of the PFSACG, we'll probably just buy another box ($8 is very reasonable for the quality of box you get).
So, we figured out how to store all of our character cards in a way we can access them easily regardless of what set we're currently playing, but we needed a way to organize our class decks. We found a solution, and if you don't mind paying a little extra for aesthetic purposes, it works quite well. We purchased an UltraPro Satin Tower for our Sorcerer deck, a dice set we felt matched the look and feel of a sorcerer, and we store the sleeved class deck in the tower, with a compartment in the bottom for the dice. It works perfectly, has space for the character sheet, and we'll be using it for all of our class decks eventually. There are even different colors to color-code your classes. It costs a few extra bucks to go this route, but makes it much easier to pick up our decks and go play somewhere other than our home.
If anyone's interested, we also bought one of the Pro Towers from UltraPro to use as a staging kit for our next game. Basically, whenever we finish a scenario and we're not going to play another immediately after, we build the next scenario (location decks, character decks, blessings, etc...), and place it in the top row spot in the tower (it's the perfect size for every card needed to place on the table). Our dice go in the bottom drawer, and the over-sized card slot in the door is perfect for our character sheets and pen. When we play a scenario, we just pull out the game box, our Pro Tower, and our mats and start playing with about 2 - 3 minutes of setup. We don't always have a lot of time (work, college, kids, cat, you know, life stuff), but this makes it so easy to squeeze some game time in between schedules.
I hope our setup helps anyone wanting a similar way to organize their cards. Here's a link to a pic of it all stored in our game shelf. It works great with our PACG stuff and fits in with the rest of our games.
I'm just storing them unsleeved in individual deck boxes (one per class deck). This is mainly because I don't plan on ever mixing them in with the base game -- tried it briefly but found it just diluted the good stuff with a lot of mediocre stuff and also diluted the thematic stuff with generic stuff.
For my OP characters, I have the character deck sleeved as well as a couple of extra sleeves in the deck box to accommodate acquiring boons during play.
I just got all the class decks and now I'm wondering what everyone does to store these. I haven't sleeved and don't think I will anytime soon but I don't want to keep stuffing them into the boxes they came in. I was wondering if that broken token insert would fit an entire adventure path and the class decks unsleeved. I don't really intent to take part in organized play either so the ultra pro towers may or may not be the way to go.
I've sleeved everything (that we're playing with now which is just the base set so far), and put it all in a 4-row card storage box.
There's a photo of it here: Card storage box.
The labeled sections contain what they say. The back part of the second row is adventure decks. The third row is class decks, some not used/opened yet. Each deck has extra sleeves with it. various extra sleeves are in the fourth row.
It's working great.
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Is there a difference on the actual box for the rotr base sets between editions 1 and 2?The first printing opens from the top. The second printing opens from the side and has a larger hang tab.
He was asking about the Base Sets—your answer is regarding the expansion decks. Physically, the Base Set boxes are very similar; the biggest change is the country of origin, as mentioned above.
Umm, yes, so look at the deck one box inside the box, is what I meant to say, of course :)