Can you use a reveal and a recharge on the same card for the same check?

[AdaptingFate]

I know you can use a power that lets you reveal a card, then use the ability on the card to recharge it to do something else.

However, what if both the reveal and the recharge are on the card? Like Besmara's Tricorne. Can you reveal it for 1d8 then recharge it for another 1d8?

[cosined]

AdaptingFate wrote:

I know you can use a power that lets you reveal a card, then use the ability on the card to recharge it to do something else.

However, what if both the reveal and the recharge are on the card? Like Besmara's Tricorne. Can you reveal it for 1d8 then recharge it for another 1d8?

That would violate the basic one card-type per check rule.

[AdaptingFate]

So revealing is playing, if the reveal is part of the card?

[elcoderdude]

S&S Rulebook pg 9 wrote:

Playing a card means using a power on that card by revealing, displaying, discarding, recharging, burying, or banishing that card or by performing another action specified by that card.

[AdaptingFate]

Thanks!

[Michael Klaus]

But you can still use the same card you revealed for powers from other cards IIRC. For example Lem the Virtuoso got hold of the Snakeskin Tunic and revealed it while using his deathbane light crossbow +1 for his combat check, he could still recharge the Snakeskin Tunic to use his bard power (a.k.a. the bard song) to give himself a 1d4+X to the same check.

Lini on the other hand can reveal an animal ally to get her additional d4 and then recharge/discard/bury/banish/remove from the game or even reveal the animal ally again for its own power if it has an appropiate one.

[ryric]

Hmm, what about with Lady Agasta? She reveals to let you recharge any number of cards, so the reveal and recharge are part of the same power, and she is a card, so I've been playing that you can reveal and recharge her all as part of one power. Sometimes I use it as an "evade" by recharging my whole hand so I can't take combat damage.

[Firedale2002]

ryric wrote:

Hmm, what about with Lady Agasta? She reveals to let you recharge any number of cards, so the reveal and recharge are part of the same power, and she is a card, so I've been playing that you can reveal and recharge her all as part of one power. Sometimes I use it as an "evade" by recharging my whole hand so I can't take combat damage.

What exactly is Lady Agasta's text? If it's only a "Reveal to recharge any number of cards", then you can't use it during an encounter, since it has no direct connection with the encounter's steps.

Also, if that's the text, the reveal power lets you recharge cards, it's not using two different powers on the same card. It also doesn't let you use the recharge abilities of the other cards, you are simply recharging them because of the first power.

[Hawkmoon269]

It is something like "Reveal this card and recharge any number of allies. Add 2 to your combat check for each ally you recharged."

I also reveal her and recharge her. I don't think anything in the rules prohibits that. You play the card by revealing her, the recharge part isn't playing any cards. In otherwords, you aren't playing the Cabin Boy you recharge via her power, so why would you be playing her via the recharge portion?

[Malcolm_Reynolds]

Hawkmoon269 wrote:

It is something like "Reveal this card and recharge any number of allies. Add 2 to your combat check for each ally you recharged."

It's any cards, not just allies.

[Hawkmoon269]

Ah right. Thanks.

[Michael Klaus]

Yes we do exactly that with Lady Agasta. The recharged cards are not played so it does not matter if they were played before.