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Silver Crusade

Not to go against the Night books but I thought WW had more votes? They're all awesome, don't get me wrong, I just think it would be a great breather for a smaller single book before going right back into a series.

And I'm really, really sorry for not contributing during this discussion, work was hectic so I never got a chance to reread The Redemption Engine :(


On the Isiem reading order: If you were to go chronologically, it's really Nightglass part 1, Misery's Mirror (the webfiction), Nightglass part 2, Nightblade.


Yeah, I am currently reading NightBlade as I won it from DunDraCon 39. It is helping me in the writing of my own pathfinder-related story. I play with a nice group of people who might want to read it.

As of now, I am really enjoying NightBlade.


Is there any Magical Academies mentioned in any of the Pathfinder Tales books or in Taldor? If not, then are there any mentioned on Golarion? If so, where? This would help me out a lot.
Thanks

Silver Crusade

So we are starting the Night books later today, correct?

Sczarni Order of the Amber Die

Okay, if everyone was able to get Nightglass over the week let's read Part One this week, Misery's Mirror the week after, and finish up with Part Two the third week. I'm really looking forward to see what Liane does with Nidal, as it's one of my favorite regions in Golarion.

P.S. If we want to take a break between Nightglass and Nightblade we can absolutely do that, we can start voting after the Misery's Mirror reading.

Sczarni Order of the Amber Die

The White Lion wrote:

Is there any Magical Academies mentioned in any of the Pathfinder Tales books or in Taldor? If not, then are there any mentioned on Golarion? If so, where? This would help me out a lot.

Thanks

Not that I know of, in and Tales book so far.

For game purposes, take a look at Inner Sea Magic and Magical Marketplace, and some of the regional player companions (Taldor - Echoes of Glory et al) might have something useful for you as well.

Silver Crusade

Interestingly enough the first part of Nightglass takes part in a magical academy!

Contributor

There's also a magical academy mentioned in Winter Witch. The Acadamae in Korvosa.


Thanks this helps a lot.

Sczarni Order of the Amber Die

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The Redemption Engine had one of the best endings of any books I've read in the genre. Running three climactic scenes simultaneously is no small feat when it comes to balancing, pace, and intensity. This ending delivered all three. As for the theme, I absolutely appreciate the revelation that alignments aren't written in stone for not only the purest, but even the most corrupt denizens of heaven and hell respectively.

I'm very curious to see what Salim faces next as every element of his story has already increase greatly from each book. His accomplices went from the novice Neila to the professional Maedora, his suspects went from the humans Qali and Jbade to the immortals Cobaru and Malchior, then his resolution went from rescuing just a single soul to saving hundreds! Following that pattern, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next installment he had queen as an accomplice, a deity as a suspect, and having to save ALL the souls of Golarion as a resolution…

Thank you again, Mr. Sutter, you've taken us on an amazing adventure so far and we're looking forward to more.
(It was also really great having you involved in our discussions, since - as far as my limited experience with them goes - it is a rare and special treat for any book club, in person or online, to have the author present.)

Executive Editor

Darkborn wrote:

The Redemption Engine had one of the best endings of any books I've read in the genre. Running three climactic scenes simultaneously is no small feat when it comes to balancing, pace, and intensity. This ending delivered all three. As for the theme, I absolutely appreciate the revelation that alignments aren't written in stone for not only the purest, but even the most corrupt denizens of heaven and hell respectively.

I'm very curious to see what Salim faces next as every element of his story has already increase greatly from each book. His accomplices went from the novice Neila to the professional Maedora, his suspects went from the humans Qali and Jbade to the immortals Cobaru and Malchior, then his resolution went from rescuing just a single soul to saving hundreds! Following that pattern, I wouldn't be surprised if in the next installment he had queen as an accomplice, a deity as a suspect, and having to save ALL the souls of Golarion as a resolution…

Thank you again, Mr. Sutter, you've taken us on an amazing adventure so far and we're looking forward to more.
(It was also really great having you involved in our discussions, since - as far as my limited experience with them goes - it is a rare and special treat for any book club, in person or online, to have the author present.)

Believe me when I say that the pleasure was all mine. :) Seeing people enjoy the book you spent two years on is a huge gift!

Sczarni Order of the Amber Die

And now...

Liane Merciel's
Nightglass

Sovereign Court

Redemption Engine was amazing; you can trace the evolution of Salim between the first and second book. I loved everything about both books but the discussion with the devil that tries to recruit him was one of the high points to me. It's an interesting parallel with real life: when you're unproven it's easier to be good, but with experience and skill, the temptations increase (i.e. one may start weighing loyalty/integrity against extra income and/or lose sight of what's best for him/family when the men with glittering toys offer you a seat...)

Question: I hear there's further adventures of Salim online... could someone kindly point me to those links? Thanks!

Executive Editor

Here's the webfiction story he starred in!

Sovereign Court

sweeeeeeeet...


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I absolutely loved this book. Salim is such an interesting character, and, like in Death's Heretic, I enjoyed seeing the different planes (I like stories featuring gods, or at least their servitors, and the various afterlives). And in RE, we get angels. The idea of a fallen angel and rising devil is something I have played with in my own writing, so that was interesting to see. And I always love things with angels.

Bors and Roshad...omg. I loved them so much. I didn't know about the web fiction that came before RE, but oh well, I still enjoyed it. I really like the idea of the Iridian Fold men, and would like to read about more men who have taken that path. True "soulmates". It made me happy to see this in a PF novel.

I have not read many PF Tales yet, but the Salim books have been fascinating. Thanks, James Sutter, for a good read. I hope to see more such novels :).

Creative Director, Starfinder Team

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ElvenDancer wrote:

I absolutely loved this book. Salim is such an interesting character, and, like in Death's Heretic, I enjoyed seeing the different planes (I like stories featuring gods, or at least their servitors, and the various afterlives). And in RE, we get angels. The idea of a fallen angel and rising devil is something I have played with in my own writing, so that was interesting to see. And I always love things with angels.

Bors and Roshad...omg. I loved them so much. I didn't know about the web fiction that came before RE, but oh well, I still enjoyed it. I really like the idea of the Iridian Fold men, and would like to read about more men who have taken that path. True "soulmates". It made me happy to see this in a PF novel.

I have not read many PF Tales yet, but the Salim books have been fascinating. Thanks, James Sutter, for a good read. I hope to see more such novels :).

Hey, thank you for the review! And for your thread necromancy. :D


James Sutter wrote:
ElvenDancer wrote:

I absolutely loved this book. Salim is such an interesting character, and, like in Death's Heretic, I enjoyed seeing the different planes (I like stories featuring gods, or at least their servitors, and the various afterlives). And in RE, we get angels. The idea of a fallen angel and rising devil is something I have played with in my own writing, so that was interesting to see. And I always love things with angels.

Bors and Roshad...omg. I loved them so much. I didn't know about the web fiction that came before RE, but oh well, I still enjoyed it. I really like the idea of the Iridian Fold men, and would like to read about more men who have taken that path. True "soulmates". It made me happy to see this in a PF novel.

I have not read many PF Tales yet, but the Salim books have been fascinating. Thanks, James Sutter, for a good read. I hope to see more such novels :).

Hey, thank you for the review! And for your thread necromancy. :D

You're welcome on both accounts :)

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