RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 16
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A lot of things I hated seeing at the table as a GM or a player no longer become problems at a core table. By far, my number one thing is slumber hexes. No witches = no slumber hexes = no adventures ruined by an unlimited use save or suck.
What things will you be glad to not see at the table while playing core?
Venture-Agent, Texas—Houston
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Eidolons. I like to play martials. I don't like a disposable pet (even more disposable than an animal companion) invalidating what I bring.
Call me a killer GM if you must, but when GMing, I'll be glad to see native outsider PCs and Ioun stone resonant powers gone. Dominate Person in a enemy's tactics is now a threat and not a waste of an action.
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Happy exclusions include.......
Spring-Loaded Wrist Sheaths
But now my Wizard can't pull his Ninja act by swift actioning out a wand of Vanish, activating it, grabbing his robe hem and sprinting away. :(
On a sadder note, now a Rogue can't do the same Ninja impersonation above (using UMD), followed by moving safely into flank for next round or poised to sneak attack the enemy spellcaster when he starts to incant...
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As an aspiring PFS DM? Not much, really.
Gunslingers are swingy until 5+ but raw damage numbers excite me more than scare me. Infernal Healing doesn't worry me because it's prqctically a faux pas to come to a PFS game past level 1 without a CLW wand and most parties full heal between fights either way. Most of all I'll miss Summoners; Eidolons are given more description and interesting flavor than the majority of full PCs at the tables I attend.
My only eyeroll-worthy moment as a DM was against a Kensai Magus with stupidly high AC. And the Full Plate Heavy Shield Paladin was just as hard to hit.
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Summoners.
Ragathiel.
Teleportation Wizards.
Kitsune Fey Enchanters.
Summoners.
Kitsunes in general.
Zen Archers.
Skalds.
Pouncing Barbarians.
Superstitious Barbarians.
Summoners.
Other random bullcrap Empyreal Lords that people pick for its favored weapon, with no understanding of the actual philosophy/flavor of the religion.
Evangelist.
Vicious Stomp.
Burst of Radiance
Summoners.
Rulership Variant Channel.
Spirit's Gift.
And most importantly.
No more Emergency Force Sphere. Rot in pit you unnecessary piece of rules bloat. You are the worst designed spell in all of PF, and that's an accomplishment. Arcane casters DO NOT need a get out of jail free as an immediate action.
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Venture-Captain, Alabama—Birmingham
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(the other half is the scenario, I can't remove a Magus villain in core mode, but I can at least choose not to run certain scenarios).
I am by no means a killer or ever terribly adversarial GM, but I have to admit to looking forward to some payback after 100+ scenarios of players roflstomping my 2nd level warriors with magi, gunslingers, pouncing barbarians, and summoners.
Much like one of my favorite scenarios
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No more Emergency Force Sphere. Rot in pit you unnecessary piece of rules bloat. You are the worst designed spell in all of PF, and that's an accomplishment. Arcane casters DO NOT need a get out of jail free as an immediate action.
*Thousands of men rise to their feet in applause. The sound is deafening.*
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I am mostly just looking forward to not having to worry about so many resource books to consult. The different classes and options never bothered me on principle. I don't mind gunslingers and summoners in the fantasy setting. I guess my Warcraft play has desensitized me to them.
I will not miss Gloves of Reconnaissance, as these have trivialized a couple of scenarios I have been in.
I understand being upset about rollplayers picking deities and not even investigating the tenets of that religion, but what exactly is stopping anyone from playing a paladin of Ragathiel in Core?
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Venture-Agent, Texas—Houston
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I understand being upset about rollplayers picking deities and not even investigating the tenets of that religion, but what exactly is stopping anyone from playing a paladin of Ragathiel in Core?
Paladins in PFS require a legal deity within one step of LG.
Only the core 20 deities are legal in core, as the rest come from other sources.
I understand being upset about rollplayers picking deities and not even investigating the tenets of that religion, but what exactly is stopping anyone from playing a paladin of Ragathiel in Core?Paladins in PFS require a legal deity within one step of LG.
Only the core 20 deities are legal in core, as the rest come from other sources.
That's a rather extremist interpretation, especially since deity has absolutely no mechanical effect for paladins and claiming that background-only choices can only be made based on the Core book and PFS Guide would mean that the only nations a person could come from are Absalom, Andoran, Cheliax, Osirion, Qadira, Taldor, and Thuvia. Even Numeria is never referenced as an actual nation, and I can't find a single mention of Varisia anywhere in the book. But hey, sure, why not throw out all the lore as well as the mechanics, and people are no longer allowed to name the city they're from unless it's Absalom or Oppara.
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That's a rather extremist interpretation, especially since deity has absolutely no mechanical effect for paladinsI understand being upset about rollplayers picking deities and not even investigating the tenets of that religion, but what exactly is stopping anyone from playing a paladin of Ragathiel in Core?Paladins in PFS require a legal deity within one step of LG.
Only the core 20 deities are legal in core, as the rest come from other sources.
and claiming that background-only choices can only be made based on the Core book and PFS Guide would mean that the only nations a person could come from are Absalom, Andoran, Cheliax, Osirion, Qadira, Taldor, and Thuvia. Even Numeria is never referenced as an actual nation, and I can't find a single mention of Varisia anywhere in the book. But hey, sure, why not throw out all the lore as well as the mechanics, and people are no longer allowed to name the city they're from unless it's Absalom or Oppara.
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Oh boy. It's a big list for me.
In no specific order:
Magus
Gunslingers
Summoners
Beast Totem pounce
Swashbuckler
Anything related to Swashbuckler
Oath of Vengeance
Zen Archers
Clustered Shots
Snap Shot
Witches
Snowball
Pit spells
Warpriest
Invulnerable Rager
Bloodrager
Agile weapon enchantment
I'm looking forward to the prospect of not needing to stack initiative just so I can get a round of combat in before the *stuff from this list* ends the encounter.
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You think those level 2 warriors will have a chance against even Core only characters? Two handed weapon users will still one shot them, colour spray, grease and giltterdust will still neuter them and animal companions will still eat them for breakfast.(the other half is the scenario, I can't remove a Magus villain in core mode, but I can at least choose not to run certain scenarios).
I am by no means a killer or ever terribly adversarial GM, but I have to admit to looking forward to some payback after 100+ scenarios of players roflstomping my 2nd level warriors with magi, gunslingers, pouncing barbarians, and summoners.
Much like one of my favorite scenarios ** spoiler omitted **
I am curious as to whether or not those kind of builds will self-select out of Core mode. Do the kinds of players (or the kinds of builds) that ROLF stomp normal PFS plan on actually playing in CORE mode (or building similar types of characters)? Or will most players choose to opt for something less obvious (or non optimal):
e.g. will most barbarians be two weapon wielding? Will wizards focus on general spells (instead of high damage evokers and high DC enchanter/conjurors).
It will be interesting to see the types of builds that show up in core mode, and how that affects the play environment.
Going through a mental checklist of local regulars who typically build powerful characters, everyone I'm thinking of is just looking for a good time playing Pathfinder, and so will see Core as just "Hey cool, more chances to play!" and will bring the same "Let's have some fun" attitude (and their strong characters) to their Core tables as they have to regular tables.
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I'm looking forward to the prospect of not needing to stack initiative just so I can get a round of combat in before the *stuff from this list* ends the encounter.Huh. Blatant public announcement of cheating from a 4-star GM. That's interesting.
I believe he was talking about as a player, and by "stack initiative" he meant do things like take the Improved Initiative feat.
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I thought by "stack initiative" he means running multiple baddies at one time, such as "all three rogues with identical statblocks go on the same initiative" or even "your animal companion goes on your initiative". I can't think of hardly any GM's who don't stack initiatives even though it's RAW to have individual.
Summoners.
Ragathiel.
Teleportation Wizards.
Kitsune Fey Enchanters.
Summoners.
Kitsunes in general.
Zen Archers.
Skalds.
Pouncing Barbarians.
Superstitious Barbarians.
Summoners.
Other random bullcrap Empyreal Lords that people pick for its favored weapon, with no understanding of the actual philosophy/flavor of the religion.
Evangelist.
Vicious Stomp.
Burst of Radiance
Summoners.
Rulership Variant Channel.
Spirit's Gift.
Had problems with Summoners?
*Thousands of men rise to their feet in applause. The sound is deafening.*
No more Emergency Force Sphere. Rot in pit you unnecessary piece of rules bloat. You are the worst designed spell in all of PF, and that's an accomplishment. Arcane casters DO NOT need a get out of jail free as an immediate action.
Not just men.
