Character build / slot suggestions for non-combat gatherer types.


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Just some ideas to help gatherer-type non-combatant folks slot their character in order to help them get out of ganking/banditry type encounters more effectively.

Perception
- You need to be paying attention to your mini-map anyway, but a little bit of training in perception (may?) help you spot enemies further out.

Speed
- Must have an orison or cantrip for speed, preferably Energetic Field. Try to get the Speed spell, and last resort maybe Speed Potions. You have to have something for this.

Self-Healing
- Same thing, if you can heal yourself you might be able to survive some random hits and make it back home. The expendable versions are better, so Cleric Lesser Cure I think. Potions at the least.

Anti-Crowd Control
- You need to have something like Bulkwark or tokens for Freedom and/or Mind Blank, so you can break stuns and slows.

Recovery
- Need to have points in Recovery, maybe even slot the Defense: Bravery so you can clear crowd-control stacks faster and get running again at full speed.

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Thoughts? Other or better suggestions?

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I'm very interested to see what the freeholder "holdout weapons" do.

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+ movement speed is very valuable, +carry capacity once those cantrips are in as well. Get from as many stacking sources as possible, since they will assist with your core role even in the absence of attacks.

I think perception is overrated, unless fast stealth ever becomes a thing.

Self-healing may or may not be worth the cost; I'll defer judgement on that until healing orisons settle down.

Freedom/Mind Blank and Bravery are proactive, not reactive, effects. Once you have stacks of slow on you, only recovery will help.


Armor feats can help you take less damage as well as provide other bonuses (read the keyword descriptions carefully).

However, the gather nekkid philosophy was very popular before husks, because no armor meant no armor durability hit when you died.

Husks may have changed it so that players will want the armor bonuses in order to die less and leave fewer husks.

I'm still gathering both armored and nekkid depending on my mood (including if I'm gathering with a pack of my bloodthirsty combat PvP mates in tow).

Yeah, we'll don our +2 armor to gather coal, cuz that's how we roll. :-)

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And with the right Armour/feat combo you have higher speed, more hitpoints, greater enc. Capacity and greater skill. You can't max all of them in the same armour, but with carefully balancing and a suitable role.... you get a bit of everything needed!

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I am a huge fan of the Guide armor feat for gathering.

At level 2 Guide with generic free Peasant Clothes +0 or Mage Robes +0:
+ 60 HP
+ 6 Perception
+ 6 Encumbrance
+ 2 Fortitude Defense Bonus, Reflex Defense Bonus, Will Defense Bonus, Bleeding Recovery Bonus, Afflicted Recovery Bonus, Burning Recovery Bonus,
+ 78 Power

At Level 4 Guide with Peasant Clothes +1 or Mage Robes +2:
+ 90 HP
+ 10 Perception
+ 9 Encumbrance
+ 3 Fortitude Defense Bonus, Reflex Defense Bonus, Will Defense Bonus, Bleeding Recovery Bonus, Afflicted Recovery Bonus, Burning Recovery Bonus,
+ 117 Power

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Doc || Allegiant Gemstone Co. wrote:


Speed
- Must have an orison or cantrip for speed, preferably Energetic Field. Try to get the Speed spell, and last resort maybe Speed Potions. You have to have something for this.

Why energetic field over agile feet? If you are only looking for speed boost, wouldn't the 6 round duration of agile feet be more desirable than the 2 round duration of energetic field? Since you would be using a focus, you could also slot some heals and other buffs.

I would also add some stealth to the mix. I have had several instances where those few extra feet made the difference between being able to get a node and being attacked by a camp full of ogres.


Because Energetic Field is faster.

If you only use Agile Feet, I will catch you.

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Energetic field also has a MUCH shorter cooldown cycle.

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Thanks, that is very good to know. Time to switch back to energetic field.

Looks over shoulder to watch out for Doc


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Looks over shoulder to watch out for Doc

Honestly, paying attention is the best and first defensive measure to take.

If you get enough of a head start and start running with a speed spell, you stand a good chance of getting away.

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Doc || Allegiant Gemstone Co. wrote:
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Looks over shoulder to watch out for Doc

Honestly, paying attention is the best and first defensive measure to take.

If you get enough of a head start and start running with a speed spell, you stand a good chance of getting away.

This is so very true. When I am gathering/traveling I tend to be looking at my mini map just as much if not more than my main screen.


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Elias Quint wrote:


This is so very true. When I am gathering/traveling I tend to be looking at my mini map just as much if not more than my main screen.

There's a main screen? ;-)

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Midnight of Golgotha wrote:
Elias Quint wrote:


This is so very true. When I am gathering/traveling I tend to be looking at my mini map just as much if not more than my main screen.

There's a main screen? ;-)

Spoken like an EVE Online player. Two monitors, four spreadsheets, Dotlan maps, eight chat channel boxes and 1/4 of a screen for the actual cockpit view.

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KarlBob wrote:
Midnight of Golgotha wrote:
Elias Quint wrote:


This is so very true. When I am gathering/traveling I tend to be looking at my mini map just as much if not more than my main screen.

There's a main screen? ;-)
Spoken like an EVE Online player. Two monitors, four spreadsheets, Dotlan maps, eight chat channel boxes and 1/4 of a screen for the actual cockpit view.

Cockpit?

Who told you about these cockpits?

There is no cockpit.

Deluded you be.


I've been outed.

Scarab Sages Goblin Squad Member

Neadenil Edam wrote:
KarlBob wrote:
Midnight of Golgotha wrote:
Elias Quint wrote:


This is so very true. When I am gathering/traveling I tend to be looking at my mini map just as much if not more than my main screen.

There's a main screen? ;-)
Spoken like an EVE Online player. Two monitors, four spreadsheets, Dotlan maps, eight chat channel boxes and 1/4 of a screen for the actual cockpit view.

Cockpit?

Who told you about these cockpits?

There is no cockpit.

Deluded you be.

Fine, then. The external camera views piped directly into your brain as you float in a capsule of goo. Funny how none of those external cameras ever get blasted to smithereens...

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KarlBob wrote:
Neadenil Edam wrote:
KarlBob wrote:
Midnight of Golgotha wrote:
Elias Quint wrote:


This is so very true. When I am gathering/traveling I tend to be looking at my mini map just as much if not more than my main screen.

There's a main screen? ;-)
Spoken like an EVE Online player. Two monitors, four spreadsheets, Dotlan maps, eight chat channel boxes and 1/4 of a screen for the actual cockpit view.

Cockpit?

Who told you about these cockpits?

There is no cockpit.

Deluded you be.

Fine, then. The external camera views piped directly into your brain as you float in a capsule of goo. Funny how none of those external cameras ever get blasted to smithereens...

They also have the ability to warp instantly to any object in your overview and zoom right up to it.

Odd no-one thought to apply that tech to weapons.

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The fact that Energetic Field is faster than Agile Feet is a problem stacked on the other problems with Energetic Field. When an ability is considered mandatory it is to good.


My understanding is that Energetic is faster than Agile feet because it is a higher rank of the same kind of spell. Quickened (10% boost) versus Hasted (30%) boost.

Either way, I recall reading that one of the designers said they didn't intend for Energetic Field to be used as a travel spell, it is more supposed to be a combat position cantrip.

Regardless of its efficacy however, I feel that a travel spell or something to boost speed will always be mandatory. If they got rid of Energetic Field, then Agile Feet would be manditory. If they got rid of that one too, than an armor feet or travel domain feature that provides a passive speed boost would be mandatory.

"If you can't out fight the predator, then you need to be able to outrun them." ~ Ancient Antelope Proverb.

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Doc || Allegiant Gemstone Co. wrote:

My understanding is that Energetic is faster than Agile feet because it is a higher rank of the same kind of spell. Quickened (10% boost) versus Hasted (30%) boost.

Either way, I recall reading that one of the designers said they didn't intend for Energetic Field to be used as a travel spell, it is more supposed to be a combat position cantrip.

Regardless of its efficacy however, I feel that a travel spell or something to boost speed will always be mandatory. If they got rid of Energetic Field, then Agile Feet would be manditory. If they got rid of that one too, than an armor feet or travel domain feature that provides a passive speed boost would be mandatory.

"If you can't out fight the predator, then you need to be able to outrun them." ~ Ancient Antelope Proverb.

In theory you are right. In reality, so far the passive speed buffs are very small, pretty much insignificant. Might just be that they are overshadowed by EF, but I don't notice a difference between those with passive buffs and those without.

Once they put in ammo, I think people will still slot EF all the time, but only use it for engaing/disengaging in pvp, instead of continuously. Will make the work larger, which will be annoying.

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