How would Deadeye Bowman & Coordinated Shot interact?


Rules Questions


I am curious as to how the Deadeye Bowman trait and the Teamwork feat Coordinated Shot would interact with each other. Mark mentioned in his Ask Me thread that Improved Precise Shot would allow a character to always gain the benefits from Coordinated Shot. Given that, would Deadeye Bowman provide the same benefit to a PC as Improved Precise Shot, assuming that all the prerequisites line up?

I think that Deadeye Bowman would allow a PC to gain the benefits from Coordinated Shot, as long as only one creature is providing soft cover to your target. I am curious what others think, or if I am simply misreading the interaction.

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Archives of Nethys wrote:

Deadeye Bowman

Source Inner Sea Gods pg. 219 (Amazon)
Category Religion
Requirement(s) Erastil
When you are using a longbow, if only a single creature is providing soft cover to your target, your target does not receive the +4 bonus to AC.
Archives of Nethys wrote:

Coordinated Shot (Combat, Teamwork)

Source Advanced Class Guide pg. 144 (Amazon)
Your ranged attacks against an opponent take advantage of your ally’s positioning.

Prerequisites: Point-Blank Shot.

Benefit: If your ally with this feat is threatening an opponent and is not providing cover to that opponent against your ranged attacks, you gain a +1 bonus on ranged attacks against that opponent. If your ally with this feat is flanking that opponent with another ally (even if that other ally doesn’t have this feat), this bonus increases to +2.

Archives of Nethys wrote:

Improved Precise Shot (Combat)

Source PRPG Core Rulebook pg. 128 (Amazon)
Your ranged attacks ignore anything but total concealment and cover.

Prerequisites: Dex 19, Point-Blank Shot, Precise Shot, base attack bonus +11.

Benefit: Your ranged attacks ignore the AC bonus granted to targets by anything less than total cover, and the miss chance granted to targets by anything less than total concealment. Total cover and total concealment provide their normal benefits against your ranged attacks.

Normal: See the normal rules on the effects of cover and concealment in Combat.


Anyone have input on this interaction?

Grand Lodge

Strictly RAW Deadeye Bowman doesn't take away the cover, it only takes away the AC bonus. So it's up to your GM on how to interpret it. i.e. is it still cover if they have no benefit? Same thing for Improved Precise shot.


claudekennilol wrote:
Strictly RAW Deadeye Bowman doesn't take away the cover, it only takes away the AC bonus. So it's up to your GM on how to interpret it. i.e. is it still cover if they have no benefit? Same thing for Improved Precise shot.

Exactly, the wording is a little weird with all those interactions. Given what Mark said in his post, it would seem that is the target does not gain the AC bonus, then essentially they do not have any cover. Which is one of those weird mechanic rules.


I have an Inquisitor of Erastil who uses this combo. To be sure it worked I ran it past my Venture-Captain and he said it worked.

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