If they did cut more this year, one reason might be that the cut came pretty late in the process. We had several weeks of voting pre-cull, and only one week left to vote. They may have felt that allowed for a deeper cut than in previous years.
The bandied possible greater amount of voters; wider disparity between item types and extended voting period pre-cull may have given Paizo a more nuanced percentage of "bombed-out" items that were definitely not fan favorites.
My guess is they looked at the distribution on the voted item ranking, noticed a natural break point and drew the cull line through it.
Where was this announced?
I'm thinking they just saw the unformatted and ditched all of those.
Alexander Bennett wrote: I'm thinking they just saw the unformatted and ditched all of those. I'm seeing an absolute lack of all caps item names on the post cull list.
Alexander Bennett wrote: I'm thinking they just saw the unformatted and ditched all of those. I still have seen some incorrectly formatted items. It is unlikely any criteria other than voter scores have been used. Paizo, among everything else they do right, is very good about listening to the fan-base.
It's looking mighty close to 50%, but I agree it's likely they saw a natural break and went with that. Reminds me of college admissions processes. :p
GM_Solspiral wrote:
Reasons not to do a cull:
1) Some people will be butthurt and not come back.
I wasn't aware of any feedback to the culled... How would someone know to be butthurt?
(Just saw my item for the first time, so yay!)
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Kreniigh wrote: GM_Solspiral wrote:
Reasons not to do a cull:
1) Some people will be butthurt and not come back.
I wasn't aware of any feedback to the culled... How would someone know to be butthurt?
(Just saw my item for the first time, so yay!) Congrats! You survived the cull.
Generally people can work out if they were culled by their item not being seen by anybody after the cull has gone through. Since not all voters appear on the boards—and the vote pairs are random—this is by no means a guarantee, but it usually is a correct assumption.
To be fair as a freelancer I've been butthurt by failure before. Heck I've been butthurt by not succeeding as much as I expected... like a 4 star review (out of five.)
The thing is being a writer means putting your work out in front of criticism, sometimes that means your ego gets a thorough mauling. If you want practice at this may I humble suggest posting regularly on reddit.
True story, Reddit retweeted and favorited my tweet:
Reddit, where content creators go to get butthurt.
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Clouds Without Water wrote: If they did cut more this year, one reason might be that the cut came pretty late in the process. We had several weeks of voting pre-cull, and only one week left to vote. They may have felt that allowed for a deeper cut than in previous years. This is essentially the reasoning behind a more drastic cull. We've got only 5 days, 13 hours, and 22 minutes until voting closes :)
Curaigh wrote: Alexander Bennett wrote: I'm thinking they just saw the unformatted and ditched all of those. I still have seen some incorrectly formatted items. It is unlikely any criteria other than voter scores have been used. Paizo, among everything else they do right, is very good about listening to the fan-base. There's unformatted and incorrectly formatted. Those are completely different countries. You missed an italics is a lot different than you missed all the formatting and used dashes to make a line.
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Alexander Bennett wrote: Curaigh wrote: Alexander Bennett wrote: I'm thinking they just saw the unformatted and ditched all of those. I still have seen some incorrectly formatted items. It is unlikely any criteria other than voter scores have been used. Paizo, among everything else they do right, is very good about listening to the fan-base. There's unformatted and incorrectly formatted. Those are completely different countries. You missed an italics is a lot different than you missed all the formatting and used dashes to make a line. Or literally adding a "history and backstory" or other made-up section, complete with header, while still leaving out vital information.
The kinds of formatting issues that voters (and, I'd wager, judges) are talking about being auto-downvotes or deal-breakers are not the little typos and stuff, but rather the "I didn't read the rules" or "I haven't looked at a rulebook for my magic items since 2E" types of things.
Is there a list of culled items?
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Mlemke wrote: Is there a list of culled items?
No; we can only confirm an item has NOT been culled if it appears to someone after the cull took place.
Of the 5 items on my keep list that were culled:
1 strong keep
3 week keeps
1 alternate
I lost one for certain, possibly two. The one I figured wouldn't be popular, but it was just so quirky I loved the thing.
is there to be any more culling before this round ends?
Tosscobble wrote: is there to be any more culling before this round ends? The voting period closes at 2 pm tomorrow, so highly, highly, highly unlikely.
thats what I thought too, but I was scrolling through posts and I saw someone mention a cull to the top 100. got me all worked up.
Tosscobble wrote: thats what I thought too, but I was scrolling through posts and I saw someone mention a cull to the top 100. got me all worked up. From what I understand (someone correct me if I am wrong please), it's not a cull to 100, its a list of the top 100 which is released when the round of 32 is released.
Woody Elliott wrote: Tosscobble wrote: thats what I thought too, but I was scrolling through posts and I saw someone mention a cull to the top 100. got me all worked up. From what I understand (someone correct me if I am wrong please), it's not a cull to 100, its a list of the top 100 which is released when the round of 32 is released. In 2013 and 2014, the judges released a list of the Top 89 and Top 100 items, respectively, so voters could see if their own personal favorites were among the top vote-getting items. (In 2013, the Top 89 were the only ones posted because there was a big gap in popularity between item #89 and item #90.)
I was glad when they released the top 89 and top 100 lists. Both years there were a number of items from my keep lists on them that weren't top 32, which was encouraging to see. It's good to know stuff you like was at least close!
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