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theheadkase wrote: FINALLY saw the I-Hate-Bards item.
Understandable if they've had a run-in with a higher level big bad bard run by a wily GM.
Or maybe they are from a certain little village in Gaul.
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theheadkase wrote: FINALLY saw the I-Hate-Bards item.
Understandable if they've had a run-in with a higher level big bad bard run by a wily GM.
I'm guess it was Gregori in Kingmaker. I ran Gregori like a Tea Party candidate... my players still get a spark of murder in their eyes when he is mentioned. Jeff pickled his head in a jar and would occasionally "speak with dead" it which is not normally permissible but it was a witch thus thematically appropriate.
Congratulations, item I've never voted for until now. You've found yourself paired against a wondrous item.
Antropomorphic items, beastly users, sentimental items, dead users...
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Rusty Ironpants wrote: Woody Elliott wrote: The black raven wrote: If your item only benefits a single class, do not be surprised that almost everyone downvotes it. I have to disagree with you. look at holy/unholy avengers and rods and staves and monk weapons and cleric scrolls and wizard scrolls and anything to do with channeling and magical instruments and any of a dozen items that effect sneak attack and monk robes and robe of the archmagi and any firearms and alchemist stuff and etc.... etc... etc.
Yeah, but there is some difference between an item that benefits anyone with sneak attack (still a subset, but it includes rogues, ninja, certain alchemist and bard archetypes and some prestige classes) and something that only benefits "Rogues". Why exclude the other classes?
Also don't forget we are not looking for "good enough for a book of magical items", we are looking for "wow, amazing, great job". A lot of the pre-existing items are "good enough for the book", and are "inherited non superstar but serviceable" items.
A single class item is ultra hard mode to do that because there will always be voters who don't want/won't vote for/dislike a lot the chosen class. I know this to my cost in a prior year as my item was a ranger only submission playing off the core ranger class abilities.
It isn't impossible for a single class item to make Top 32, but it will have to be something gob-smackingly awesome to get votes from everyone regardless of their feeling for that class.
If anything it is more hard mode than a hard mode staff by quite some degree.
TotalAnarchy wrote: Antropomorphic items, beastly users, sentimental items, dead users... Dogs Horses and cats goblins living together... mass hysteria!
Anthony Adam wrote: there will always be voters who don't want/won't vote for/dislike a lot the chosen class. Full disclosure, items which rely on class powers I don't understand/never used have been suffering under my voting regime since I pick the devil I know. :(
I'm afraid to upvote something which is potentially overpowered if I don't explicitly know it's balanced.
I think this topic was sort of implied in the FAQ but maybe just in reference to regions and dieties?
Also, a lot of light-shedding items this year...that may be the new cliche!
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Congratulations on using a word that not only did I not know, but neither did dictionary.com. (No, I'm not being sarcastic. I eventually found a definition. It's a cool word that I'm happy to add to my personal lexicon.)
Oh item, I was going to vote for you until you added interactions with an existing item. Personal bias on that topic, I guess.
Anthony Adam wrote: Rusty Ironpants wrote: Woody Elliott wrote: The black raven wrote: If your item only benefits a single class, do not be surprised that almost everyone downvotes it. I have to disagree with you. look at holy/unholy avengers and rods and staves and monk weapons and cleric scrolls and wizard scrolls and anything to do with channeling and magical instruments and any of a dozen items that effect sneak attack and monk robes and robe of the archmagi and any firearms and alchemist stuff and etc.... etc... etc.
Yeah, but there is some difference between an item that benefits anyone with sneak attack (still a subset, but it includes rogues, ninja, certain alchemist and bard archetypes and some prestige classes) and something that only benefits "Rogues". Why exclude the other classes?
Also don't forget we are not looking for "good enough for a book of magical items", we are looking for "wow, amazing, great job". A lot of the pre-existing items are "good enough for the book", and are "inherited non superstar but serviceable" items.
A single class item is ultra hard mode to do that because there will always be voters who don't want/won't vote for/dislike a lot the chosen class. I know this to my cost in a prior year as my item was a ranger only submission playing off the core ranger class abilities.
It isn't impossible for a single class item to make Top 32, but it will have to be something gob-smackingly awesome to get votes from everyone regardless of their feeling for that class.
If anything it is more hard mode than a hard mode staff by quite some degree. And I think something that a lot of people don't realize is that you have to balance items that react differently in the hand of other classes/races much more expertly. The +2 item that is a +5 when X class uses it can't be priced as a +2 or else it becomes just a cheap way to overpower a character (or an item that every character of that type must have), but you can't price it as a +5, because then it's a piece of garbage to anyone that can't use it and just merchant fodder.
Too often in this competition, items aren't priced right, and that is why they seem automatically down-voted
I'm a committed voter!
No, wait. Dedicated voter. Committed is what I should be.
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The Golux wrote: I'm a committed voter!
No, wait. Dedicated voter. Committed is what I should be.
Yeah, you've crossed WAY over the line you nut!
;)
I'm sorry, "ZZSlot" is not an appropriate slot.
Question to the group; what's the standard when an item has a Save DC; does whether or not spell resistance applies need to be called out? Is it always assumed to be Yes unless otherwise stated? More than 500 votes in and still realizing things I don't know what the eff I'm doing. Been voting without considering that for almost a week now.
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Wow lots of new items for me today and some good ones.
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Brigg wrote: I'm sorry, "ZZSlot" is not an appropriate slot. I saw them in concert back in '86. Those dudes rock!
Oh, wait. That was ZZ Top. Never mind.
Brigg wrote: I'm sorry, "ZZSlot" is not an appropriate slot. I ZZTop that!
Ninja'd
BLUKnight wrote: BEHOLD!
CORN!
That item has a way of growing on you.
Thomas LeBlanc wrote: BLUKnight wrote: BEHOLD!
CORN! That item has a way of growing on you. It pops into the mind quite often, eh?
Thomas LeBlanc wrote: BLUKnight wrote: BEHOLD!
CORN! That item has a way of growing on you. That item bursts on the scene
I've seen my own item four times. I have yet to see the corn item.
Why do you do this, Paizo Sorting Hat. I want to see the corn item.
Moik wrote: I've seen my own item four times. I have yet to see the corn item.
Why do you do this, Paizo Sorting Hat. I want to see the corn item.
I too once believed I would never see the corn item. You just have to keep believing! Don't stop believing!
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BLUKnight wrote: Moik wrote: I've seen my own item four times. I have yet to see the corn item.
Why do you do this, Paizo Sorting Hat. I want to see the corn item. I too once believed I would never see the corn item. You just have to keep believing! Don't stop believing! Hold on to that feeling!
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Moik you have an Xmas gift in your PM stocking
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Guaran-damn-teed, the person who made the corn item is reading our comments and laughing maniacally.
GM_Solspiral wrote: Thomas LeBlanc wrote: BLUKnight wrote: BEHOLD!
CORN! That item has a way of growing on you. That item bursts on the scene Makes it rain!
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There's 2 comments in the thread at my item one negative one positive... I can relate to the corn item designer. Kudos even if you don't make the top 32 it's up there with beardforge as memorable and fun.
Apparently talking about it makes it come up in voting. It just popped onto my screen.
And considering what it's up against, it gets the vote.
Jeff Lee wrote: Apparently talking about it makes it come up in voting. It just popped onto my screen.
And considering what it's up against, it gets the vote.
Heh heh
"popped"
I very much like the corn item!
I tassled with it again as well Jeff.
Every time I read your item name, I wish the item had a different focus, but I still like you.
Oooooh...that anti-bard item.
Objects that tie things/creatures together seems to be another new trend this year.
Jeff Lee wrote: Objects that tie things/creatures together seems to be another new trend this year. So you'd say there's a bondage theme?
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Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote: I very much like the corn item! Am I the only one who hates this item?
On the other hand, I actually really like another joke item. It had a really solid effect that belonged on a rod. I just wish he name wasn't such a gas. If these items weren't named, I'd put it in the top 32 easily. With the name, I just want to slap the guy for ruining his good item with a terrible name.
That said, both of these items, when I saw them, were up against, what I consider to be the very worst item (so far, at least). No attempt to template. Bizarre and unexplained effect. And d20s aren't damn damage dice! So, yeah, two jokes got my vote and I hate that.
Definitely having voter fatigue, plus if I have to chose between voting or doing fun things with my family, my family wins this week.
All that said, please don't make up a new material for your item for RPG SS and not have a solid plan for a name, where it's from or what it does. Actually, just don't do make up new materials. There are more than four of them that I can think of off the top of my head and I just can't vote for something like that, no matter how cool the concept is.
GM_Solspiral wrote: Jeff Lee wrote: Objects that tie things/creatures together seems to be another new trend this year. So you'd say there's a bondage theme? Yes, there is, but there's also one just about tying stuff together. ;-)
mplindustries wrote: Am I the only one who hates this item? For me:
Competent joke item > incompetent item
Item with any sort of spark > joke item
I've never seen a joke item make top 32
GM_Solspiral wrote: mplindustries wrote: Am I the only one who hates this item? For me:
Competent joke item > incompetent item
Item with any sort of spark > joke item
I've never seen a joke item make top 32 Pretty much. I don't dislike fun joke items, but I won't vote for them.
Kill me? Oh, yeah? Well, I'll kill you back!
THAT IS THE COOLEST M-ER F-ING ROD IN THE WHOLE DAMN CONTEST!!!!!!!!!!
Translation: I would upvote one particular rod over pretty much anything.
Just when I thought I'd seen all the joke items...
*facepalm*
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This is the best accidentally permanent duration I have ever seen! I can't vote for it, but I'm laughing hard enough to start alarming all of the pets.
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You are f-ing brilliant, Brilliantly circumvent the rules by following them. I don't think it will fly but I salute you for doing it.
Brigg wrote: THAT IS THE COOLEST M-ER F-ING ROD IN THE WHOLE DAMN CONTEST!!!!!!!!!!
Translation: I would upvote one particular rod over pretty much anything.
I've not seen any rod THAT good. I hope I get to see it...
My list of items that should get in (but might not because my taste appears different than most) include a net, a suit of plate, and a few other weapons.
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mplindustries wrote: I've not seen any rod THAT good. I hope I get to see it...
WILL SAVE!!!!!!: 1d20 - 19 ⇒ (16) - 19 = -3
THAT'S WHAT...MUST CONTAIN SELF!!
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I don't think I've seen this awesome rod yet. I know I haven't seen the popcorn item.
I imagine that post-Culling, they'll both be easier to find in the voting queue.
And with that, I've gotta pause voting until I finish my third Wayfinder #13 submission.
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