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michael patrick wrote:
Hmmm...vomit swarm...that is a spell I was not previously familiar with.

I've always wanted a witch to deliver this spell thru a cat familiar! Scariest hairball ever...

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GM_Solspiral wrote:
Thing I hire an NPC to do vs thing I hire an NPC to do

Sword of Lawnmowing

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The black raven wrote:
SIAC and SAK in one (wondrous) item. Had to upvote it though, as the other one was clearly a joke item :-(

Yeah it's a Jo SAKIC, hockey item from the Colorado avalanche.

Swiss Army Knife In Can. Dibs on writing it up in joke item thread!

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aaaaand you ruined that by making it alignment specific without a good reason

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"The cost of this extra thing you can do with this item is whatever the GM decides he wants that NPC to charge. But if you don't like it, you can go ask a different NPC, and then another, until you give up or the GM caves-in and cuts you a big discount."

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Wow, a legitimately good, usable in a real game, rod. That's the first one I have seen that real PCs might actually want for its price. If I ever end up playing another illusion focused caster, I will want it as well.

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It's armor, nothing to see here- move along

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I wonder how many entries there were?

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I just down voted you! Now because of what you are next to I have to vote for you!?!?!

AGGGGGGH!

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Lightminder wrote:
I wonder how many entries there were?

Last count I trust was around 815... there's a list of items thread/doc but it appears to have some chaos going on at the moment

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Why does it feel like almost every item for upper mid-level characters (11-14th level), at least based on the price of the item, is a +1 with a lot of abilities tacked on? Maybe it's just me, but I always prefer to hit a target over having abilities activate when I hit.

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Gennerik wrote:
Why does it feel like almost every item for upper mid-level characters (11-14th level), at least based on the price of the item, is a +1 with a lot of abilities tacked on? Maybe it's just me, but I always prefer to hit a target over having abilities activate when I hit.

Acquiring to-hit bonus is relatively easy, and probably the most common bonus type out there. Doing meaningful things when you hit is not only more interesting, but is a design space that isn't just "here, have some numbers".


Gennerik wrote:
Why does it feel like almost every item for upper mid-level characters (11-14th level), at least based on the price of the item, is a +1 with a lot of abilities tacked on? Maybe it's just me, but I always prefer to hit a target over having abilities activate when I hit.

You are not alone. This is usually why specific magic weapons don't get used very often.

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James Raine wrote:
Gennerik wrote:
Why does it feel like almost every item for upper mid-level characters (11-14th level), at least based on the price of the item, is a +1 with a lot of abilities tacked on? Maybe it's just me, but I always prefer to hit a target over having abilities activate when I hit.
Acquiring to-hit bonus is relatively easy, and probably the most common bonus type out there. Doing meaningful things when you hit is not only more interesting, but is a design space that isn't just "here, have some numbers".

So I agree with what you are saying, but if you're going to have a +1 weapon or armor cost 30k or more, why not make it 35k or 40k and make it a +3? I feel it shows more understanding of the game and pricing.

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There's a few items that have neat abilities and are well thought out, but they're for circumstances that just don't arise in most games.

I still upvote them against messy items, but I doubt they have much of a real chance. :-(

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Gennerik wrote:
James Raine wrote:
Gennerik wrote:
Why does it feel like almost every item for upper mid-level characters (11-14th level), at least based on the price of the item, is a +1 with a lot of abilities tacked on? Maybe it's just me, but I always prefer to hit a target over having abilities activate when I hit.
Acquiring to-hit bonus is relatively easy, and probably the most common bonus type out there. Doing meaningful things when you hit is not only more interesting, but is a design space that isn't just "here, have some numbers".
So I agree with what you are saying, but if you're going to have a +1 weapon or armor cost 30k or more, why not make it 35k or 40k and make it a +3? I feel it shows more understanding of the game and pricing.

Or just have it become a +3 weapon in the hands of paladins, thug rogues, and universalist wizards.

Who also worship Zon-Kuthon.

In February.

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...Ok, pretty sure that name was an anagram for something. It was too odd not to be. Easy downvote since the item doesn't actually seem to do anything.

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Gennerik wrote:
So I agree with what you are saying, but if you're going to have a +1 weapon or armor cost 30k or more, why not make it 35k or 40k and make it a +3? I feel it shows more understanding of the game and pricing.

I definitely feel you should up the armor/weapon enhancement beyond a +1 at certain price breakpoints. Finding a +1 greatsword--albeit with an awesome special ability--at 15th level just feels *off*. Now, even a +2 feels much more believable, especially if it has a unique and useful power.

On the other hand, a +4 shield with a low-level spell (shield other or kings castle, for example) 1/day is equally off-putting.

Tl;dr -- balance is importance, not only in terms of in-game power, but also for asthetics and believability.

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Clouds Without Water wrote:

There's a few items that have neat abilities and are well thought out, but they're for circumstances that just don't arise in most games.

I still upvote them against messy items, but I doubt they have much of a real chance. :-(

I agree with this 100%.

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there are cheaper was to keep from dieing!

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Gennerik wrote:
James Raine wrote:
Gennerik wrote:
Why does it feel like almost every item for upper mid-level characters (11-14th level), at least based on the price of the item, is a +1 with a lot of abilities tacked on? Maybe it's just me, but I always prefer to hit a target over having abilities activate when I hit.
Acquiring to-hit bonus is relatively easy, and probably the most common bonus type out there. Doing meaningful things when you hit is not only more interesting, but is a design space that isn't just "here, have some numbers".
So I agree with what you are saying, but if you're going to have a +1 weapon or armor cost 30k or more, why not make it 35k or 40k and make it a +3? I feel it shows more understanding of the game and pricing.

Well, for starters the difference between a +1 and a +3 weapon is 16k gp, so upping your price by 5k isn't going to cover the difference. I see what you're saying (higher end weapons need to have believable enchantments), but I'm willing to bet even money that they're riding on that +1 to keep the item's overall cost down.

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I found an earthbreaker I hadn't reviewed before! My life is complete.

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Treyson wrote:

I definitely feel you should up the armor/weapon enhancement beyond a +1 at certain price breakpoints. Finding a +1 greatsword--albeit with an awesome special ability--at 15th level just feels *off*. Now, even a +2 feels much more believable, especially if it has a unique and useful power.

On the other hand, a +4 shield with a low-level spell (shield other or kings castle, for example) 1/day is equally off-putting.

Tl;dr -- balance is importance, not only in terms of in-game power, but also for asthetics and believability.

And I think this touches on my point exactly. Too often I see this amazing ability on a +1 item and I just feel the +1 is there just because it's required by the book. It's as if the author thought to themselves ”How can I get this ability for as cheap as possible?" and I just want to yell "Stop metagaming!"

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I think you're a joke item. But you're so much more interesting than the other one. Upvoted !

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Oh, I saw that item that uses a spell wrong. I totally understand, now, why it was the cause for such consternation. Maybe next year I will create an item that arcane marks my enemies. On their eyes, so they can't see past the marks!

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Item of the sea vs Item of the sea. And the names together evoke a duel at sea I really enjoyed.

First one is much better though. In fact I will create a Keep list because of it, even though I really did not intend to :-)

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Random tables cause a facepalm reflex

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Second Parade Armor in 3 pairings. Is this a christmas thing ?

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My item gives a +1 bonus plus some features. I compared its price to other items in the same category and power level and it seemed to add up. If there is a problem it may be in the way the system determines the cost of magic.

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You seem such an innocent goody-two-shoes item with that automatic help-me compulsion.......I could put you to some seriously nefarious uses in the hands of a bad guy though.

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Why would I want an item that starts out not so great but gets better after certain triggering actions if I can just find a thing that starts off good?

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michael patrick wrote:

My item gives a +1 bonus plus some features. I compared its price to other items in the same category and power level and it seemed to add up. If there is a problem it may be in the way the system determines the cost of magic.

I made mine higher than the bare minimum because i wanted to make sure the price wasn't *too* low. It's a fine balancing act.

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michael patrick wrote:

My item gives a +1 bonus plus some features. I compared its price to other items in the same category and power level and it seemed to add up. If there is a problem it may be in the way the system determines the cost of magic.

And if you actually did your homework and found it to be a good tradeoff and well-balanced, then awesome. But I feel a lot of people didn't, and they end up tacking on the +1 because it's required, not because they actually thought it out.

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Gennerik wrote:


And if you actually did your homework and found it to be a good tradeoff and well-balanced, then awesome. But I feel a lot of people didn't, and they end up tacking on the +1 because it's required, not because they actually thought it out.

Yeah. I suspect that is the case.

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Tindalos! Bit woof on the IP.

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No...please no...the two items...completely wrong for different reasons...I can't...got to up-vote one...no...

*sob*

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I've seen quite a few +1 ABCDEFG weapons so far - and I really mean +1 with seven or more special abilities. Yeah, that's a bit much.

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Snowy B wrote:
Tindalos! Bit woof on the IP.

Pathfinder does use these.

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Feros wrote:

No...please no...the two items...completely wrong for different reasons...I can't...got to up-vote one...no...

*sob*

Suck it up and ask yourself... Do you want to be a champion again? Do you? Well get out there and do the thing! Do the thing like you life depends on the outcome. There's no crying in Superstar!

The exception:

(Unless you're Hitler, Hitler is totally butthurt)

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Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote:
Snowy B wrote:
Tindalos! Bit woof on the IP.
Pathfinder does use these.

Good! One of my favourites.

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So, in Googling the phrase "all appropriate spells" to see if some other gaming system uses that method, I got a search result of ring of elemental command from the PRD.

Given that Paizo has used this shorthand in the Core Rulebook, I guess it makes it a little more forgiveable for Superstar contestants.

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Son of a barghest, there's my item. :3

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Snowy B wrote:
You seem such an innocent goody-two-shoes item with that automatic help-me compulsion.......I could put you to some seriously nefarious uses in the hands of a bad guy though.

Oh wow. That could be super dirty. I'm looking forward to my new Paladin-built fortress of ambiguously nefarious purpose.


I believe I've seen the item in question. If your item is going to provoke an argument about alignment, then you've probably gone astray in your design choice.

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GM_Solspiral wrote:
Feros wrote:

No...please no...the two items...completely wrong for different reasons...I can't...got to up-vote one...no...

*sob*

Suck it up and ask yourself... Do you want to be a champion again? Do you? Well get out there and do the thing! Do the thing like you life depends on the outcome. There's no crying in Superstar!

** spoiler omitted **

Yeah, one had no real template mojo, but what I had to vote for...

*shakes head in shame*

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Finally saw my item!

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KingOfAnything wrote:
Snowy B wrote:
You seem such an innocent goody-two-shoes item with that automatic help-me compulsion.......I could put you to some seriously nefarious uses in the hands of a bad guy though.
Oh wow. That could be super dirty. I'm looking forward to my new Paladin-built fortress of ambiguously nefarious purpose.

Whilst the paladin guards spend a relaxing afternoon rescuing cats from trees and helping people to cross busy thoroughfares. Mwuh hah hah!

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Clay Clouser wrote:
Finally saw my item!

Congratulations Clay! Now you get to experience that wonderful stress all over again after the cull! And without anyone able to reassure you as readily! :)

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Nazard wrote:

So, in Googling the phrase "all appropriate spells" to see if some other gaming system uses that method, I got a search result of ring of elemental command from the PRD.

Given that Paizo has used this shorthand in the Core Rulebook, I guess it makes it a little more forgiveable for Superstar contestants.

Marginally. The ring of elemental command has tons of spells and takes up a lot more space than the 300 word allotment for this contest.

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LOL! I finally saw the Item of Many, Many Names.

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