Did you find Star Wars 7 new lightsaber great or ridiculous?


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Like many I saw the official trailer of the upcoming Star Wars movie, like many I have (too) high expectations and I'm afraid to revive the awful experience of Episode I...

In the trailer everything seems great, everything but this new lightsaber concept. J. J. Abrams is very creative but sometimes "less is more" and I'm afraid this new lightsaber is much too much.
I know you have to trust the movie director the way you trust your DM, but I'm afraid that J. J. Abrams will fail the Sith the same way he failed Khan, making them more visual while removing all substance from them.

I wish I'm wrong, I wish you'll convince me, I wish I won't be disappointed next year by Episode VII.


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I think the crossguard is ridiculous. The wielder is going to cut off their own hand, or slice up their arm, or have it shoved against them and stab themselves.

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What, you mean the hilt spikes made of light? I don't know but I hope the movie is not episode seven the book, so I don't have as much to complain about. Also, a cool lightsaber idea is to deactivate your blade when someone swings and chop their head off while they are recovering.


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Star Trek has always appealed to me more than Star Wars. And no, J.J. Abrams did no justice whatsoever to Khan. He butchered it, really. I do watch Star Wars but not with the same anticipation as Star Trek.

His mind is a wonderful thing but I agree with your assessment that less is more. To answer your question, yes, the new lightsaber's crossguard is stupid. Grey said it best and no need to repeat what he said.


Yah, I'm hoping the cross-guard-thing is one of those little nagging things in an otherwise fun and awesome movie ... as opposed to an early indicator of bad decisions throughout.

... I guess we'll see. I remain optimistically hopeful and excited. :D


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I find the new lightsaber I don't care.


I'm no expert on...well, anything, really. But it seems to me that if you had a weapon on which you could impale yourself, you'd have to be a total master to use it and not do so. Maybe the idea is the guy's SO good, he can use a dangerous weapon and do it effectively, defying the odds (and giving him an additional resource in combat).

Some people can juggle. Some of them can juggle chainsaws.


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The new cross-guard is stupid. It represents yet another Elitist's
hatred for Star Wars Fans, because we all know *what* a light saber can
do and showing this cross-guard to us is basically the same as flipping
us the bird, and yelling, "F.U. Star Wars Fans, I can do whatever I want
to your icons, and I know you'll still pay me off handsomely, with ca$h, in the end... b1tches."

Yep.

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I think the sword is great, visually. I'm not really concerned with how its owner would avoid hurting himself, because he's fighting with a freaking plasma sword. I've always classified Star Wars as science fantasy in my own mind; as long as it remains internally consistent, I'm good. Honestly, Abrams could phone this in and he couldn't do worse than Lucas himself already gave us with midichlorians and Jar-Jar Binks.

I'm more excited about the interior shot of the X-Wing, and seeing that the future isn't entirely the chrome-plated shiny the prequels seemed to be shooting for.


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It's cool by me. I'm enjoying all the new light sabers so far.


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I find it neither ridiculous or great. It's just a different light saber.


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Thought it was kinda cool looking myself.

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Both. I always thought lightsabers needed a guard of some sort. I'm happy there's finally a lightsaber that has one, but the design looks silly. How about a selectively-permeable lightsaber-proof energy field around the hilt as a guard? Ya know, exactly like the ones those "roller" droids had in Phantom Menace?

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I like it. It looks ******* cool!

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Looks cool, but also looks like it should get its wielder killed. Not upset about it tho.

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I've wanted a lightsaber with a cross-guard since I was like 10. Look at all the jerks who get their hands cut off because there isn't a blocking mechanism, There's enough of the hilt there that you won't get your fingers burned off, and it implies a very different fighting style than we've seen so far.

Remember when you were 8 and light sabers were just the coolest thing ever.

Logically they make no sense, and a sweaty palm would be enough to cause you to slip and lose like... all of your fingers.

Relax, it's Star Wars. They're childrens movies.

That's what makes them great.

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#LightClaymore4Lyf


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Completely impractical.

Still hoping JJ doesn't blow it like he did with Star Trek into Darkness.


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Quiet, you. I wuved that movie.

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Electric Wizard wrote:

The new cross-guard is stupid. It represents yet another Elitist's

hatred for Star Wars Fans, because we all know *what* a light saber can
do and showing this cross-guard to us is basically the same as flipping
us the bird, and yelling, "F.U. Star Wars Fans, I can do whatever I want
to your icons, and I know you'll still pay me off handsomely, with ca$h, in the end... b1tches."

Yep.

.

So Lucas designed it?


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Put me in the "stupid" camp. I REALLY don't understand why a lightsaber can't be cool enough on its own. From Darth Maul's double lightsaber, to General Grievous' four, the logical next step is eight blades. If they can't do that, of course they have to fill in the "three" slot. Guh. "Five" is easy, just a glove with a lightsaber on every finger. "Six" would be a pair of Wolverine light claws.


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1. I loved both Star Trek flicks.

2. Lucas "chromed up" the prequels to show the galaxy before it had fallen into "used car lot" status as it looked it the originals (everything is new at SOME point). That doesn't mean I liked them, though: I am not a big fan of the prequels at all.

3. My first thought at that lightsaber was "crossguard stupid - wrists lacerated and hands chopped off the minute he twirls it (as all Jedi/Sith MUST eventually do!" And I said so to my wife. However, I still thought it LOOKED cool. And I am really not that bothered by it in the long run.

4. I was a bit annoyed that the trailer doesn't give us any real idea what anything is about.

5. I was also distracted by the fact that everybody is in a big hurry to get somewhere in the trailer. Which got old before the first viewing was done, and was even older during the second.

6. That droid was Jar Jar Binks and I know I will hate him (there's already a "they see me rollin', they hatin'" meme out there for it - and I do). But I also am trying to reserve judgment for seeing it in-context. I want to keep an open mind.

7. On a weird personal note, the thing that DID bother me, were the red X-Wing uniforms. I have always been fond of the orange. Somehow, this little change really bugged me. I am sure that's just me, and I realize how petty it is. It's just that I wanted to feel connected to the whole thing, and that... "disconnected" me, somehow. Plus, the X-Wings look slightly different, which was a bit distracting, but somehow more understandable to me.


I would say that the whole cross-guard thing takes away from the original concept of lightsabers as an homage to the katana. A cross-guard seems very Western and out of place.

-Matt


Katanas have a tsuba - which is a hand guard.


I know what a katana looks like, stormraven. That silly thing is very not-Kurosawa, and definitely not a katana.

-Matt


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Well obviously the next logical evolution will be the light-glaive-guarsaumme-bill hook

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Guns that fire lightsaber bullets.


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OP: Dumb looking.
X-wings flying over water on the other hand, throwing up spray as they pass - that I could happily and hypnotically watch for an hour.


I think it's a liiiiittle silly for anyone to be upset about a half-second clip of a fantasy weapon that they otherwise know nothing about.

Silly. But not unexpected.

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It's far from the silliest light weapon Star Wars has had. Light-whips, anyone?

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This,

Sissyl wrote:
"Five" is easy, just a glove with a lightsaber on every finger.

and this,

bruunwald wrote:
That droid was Jar Jar Binks and I know I will hate him (there's already a "they see me rollin', they hatin'" meme out there for it - and I do). But I also am trying to reserve judgment for seeing it in-context. I want to keep an open mind.

are very amusing.

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Electric Wizard wrote:

The new cross-guard is stupid. It represents yet another Elitist's

hatred for Star Wars Fans, because we all know *what* a light saber can
do and showing this cross-guard to us is basically the same as flipping
us the bird, and yelling, "F.U. Star Wars Fans, I can do whatever I want
to your icons, and I know you'll still pay me off handsomely, with ca$h, in the end... b1tches."

Yep.

Given what J.J. Abrams has done to Star Trek, why should Star Wars fans miss out on the pain?

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#claymorelightsabre is being weilded by Idris Elba (Luther). Right height and build, and puts more weight on his right knee than left.


Scott Betts wrote:
I think it's a liiiiittle silly for anyone to be upset about a half-second clip of a fantasy weapon that they otherwise know nothing about.

Me too. Good thing no one here is "upset."


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After the double bladed lightsaber the claymore lightsaber is small potatoes as far as the 'how do you weild it?' questions are concerned.

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I was originally skeptical, but I decided I think it looks cool enough to ignore the practical issues.

In other words, it's ridiculous AND great. I'm a fan.


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I am going to prolong my not seeing any trailers for as long as possible. Because if I see something I don't like, its going to haunt me until the movie comes out.

:::::sticks fingers in ears; squeezes eyes closed:::::


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Mattastrophic wrote:

I would say that the whole cross-guard thing takes away from the original concept of lightsabers as an homage to the katana. A cross-guard seems very Western and out of place.

-Matt

So wait, not only accross an entire planet but accross an entire GALAXY there's only one design for a light saber?

No way. that thing looked awesome. If only western sword fighting styles get some love... (though i think count douku was getting some fencing on)

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Cyrad wrote:
Both. I always thought lightsabers needed a guard of some sort.

A couple of millennia of katana wielders beg to disagree.

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The cross-guard design was pretty cool. From reading comments here and on the Escapist though you would think it is the end of the world. There are some people who will never be happy with anything.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Mattastrophic wrote:

I would say that the whole cross-guard thing takes away from the original concept of lightsabers as an homage to the katana. A cross-guard seems very Western and out of place.

-Matt

So wait, not only accross an entire planet but accross an entire GALAXY there's only one design for a light saber?

No way. that thing looked awesome. If only western sword fighting styles get some love... (though i think count douku was getting some fencing on)

Well, we have to remember Lucas captured the Star Wars idea from a Japanese move. I think it was called The Hidden Fortress, or something like that. So, the asian influence on the original movies is strong. But, other influence can be inferred, like The Force can be viewed as Christianity. With this influence, pulling in western cross-guards makes sense. There could be a whole undiscovered sect of Jedi Templar Knights, and they get in fights the asian Jedi Knights. Then the Jedi Jihad Knights get involved, and it becomes a giant battle of light sabre designs.

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Lord Fyre wrote:


Given what J.J. Abrams has done to Star Trek, why should Star Wars fans miss out on the pain?

I'm of mixed feelings. I feel that Abrams Enterprise is the ugliest ship since Style's Excalibur.

But that scene of it rising from the ocean? A moment of pure awesome that none of the preceding non-Abrams films ever managed to evoke.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Mattastrophic wrote:

I would say that the whole cross-guard thing takes away from the original concept of lightsabers as an homage to the katana. A cross-guard seems very Western and out of place.

-Matt

So wait, not only accross an entire planet but accross an entire GALAXY there's only one design for a light saber?

No way. that thing looked awesome. If only western sword fighting styles get some love... (though i think count douku was getting some fencing on)

There should be a reason for such a change. The crossguard great swords were designed for the simple reason of chopping through plate armor. Lighter swords were a later development after heavy armor fell out of favor. There is no such thing in the Star Wars universe that the standard light saber can't go through.


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The cross-guard on the weapon as pictured is either pointless (light saber blades don't slide) or useless (they do slide, but oops! gap).

Now that I have made this observation, I'm off to commit ritual suicide in protest.

P.S. The gap could have easily been avoided if the "cross-guard" parts fired in toward (but not quite touching) the main blade and extended past it on either side.


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LazarX wrote:


There should be a reason for such a change. The crossguard great swords were designed for the simple reason of chopping through plate armor. Lighter swords were a later development after heavy armor fell out of favor. There is no such thing in the Star Wars universe that the standard light saber can't go through.

No, but if you're going to have a laser sword with little/no weight to it having one as long as possible seems like a good idea. If your blades routinely lock in a fight having more leverage from a longer handle seems like a good idea. And if someone is swinging a laser sword that can't be stopped by anything but another laser sword having tiny little laser swords right at your delicate and very important fingers seems like a good idea.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
LazarX wrote:


There should be a reason for such a change. The crossguard great swords were designed for the simple reason of chopping through plate armor. Lighter swords were a later development after heavy armor fell out of favor. There is no such thing in the Star Wars universe that the standard light saber can't go through.
No, but if you're going to have a laser sword with little/no weight to it having one as long as possible seems like a good idea. If your blades routinely lock in a fight having more leverage from a longer handle seems like a good idea. And if someone is swinging a laser sword that can't be stopped by anything but another laser sword having tiny little laser swords right at your delicate and very important fingers seems like a good idea.

At that point I use my leverage to get your fingers chopped off by your own crossguard. The thing is crossguards weren't monofilament daggers that could effortless go through the hands gripping the hilt, they were solid round pieces simply designed to stop a blade.


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LazarX wrote:

At that point I use my leverage to get your fingers chopped off by your own crossguard. The thing is crossguards weren't monofilament daggers that could effortless go through the hands gripping the hilt, they were solid round pieces simply designed to stop a blade.

That doesn't make any sense. The fingers are in a fixed position relative to the crossguard no matter how you try to turn it.

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Ignoring the practicality I thought it looked cool. It's definitely interesting, and hundreds of nerds are now debating it so - Teaser Trailer mission accomplished :-)

I think he missed out by not adding a tiny lightpommel for the backhand in the face.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
LazarX wrote:

At that point I use my leverage to get your fingers chopped off by your own crossguard. The thing is crossguards weren't monofilament daggers that could effortless go through the hands gripping the hilt, they were solid round pieces simply designed to stop a blade.

That doesn't make any sense. The fingers are in a fixed position relative to the crossguard no matter how you try to turn it.

But what about your forearms if you spin it really fast, like Jedi's do.


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It initially annoyed me. Upon second (and more) viewings ... I dig the visual.

I'm officially over it. And am trying to think of other unique lightsabers I want to see. :)
Have we seen a lightsaber with two parallel blades? That could be cool for a weapon-cathcing/disarming style of lightsaberyness.

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