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...didn't Sitwell make a mention of cosmic rays during his rant of CA: WS? Or did I just 'fill that in'?


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If they rebuild/reincorporate the Fox bits into the MCU post-Thanos/Infinity War, they should reboot the Fantastic Four again (I know, I know) but set it during the Space Race/1960s.

Also, Mads Mikkelsen as Doom.


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

If they rebuild/reincorporate the Fox bits into the MCU post-Thanos/Infinity War, they should reboot the Fantastic Four again (I know, I know) but set it during the Space Race/1960s.

Also, Mads Mikkelsen as Doom.

As much as I like the idea of the FF back then, it sort of cuts them off from everything else. Not much point of incorporating them, if they're going to be dead or old and retired by time of the present movies.

OTOH, if they did use Kang as Thomas Seitz has been talking about as the next big villain, he could be acting "simultaneously" in both time periods, giving them a major crossover with the teams never meeting. Or only meeting in the finale attacking Kang in his future base or something.


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The Disney merger still needs approval to go through, so I expect we might not see set up for any xmen and MCU merger until post Avengers 4.


Well Post Avengers 4 is where I see Kang coming in... so...

But yeah.


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I swear thomas you and Kang need to get a room.


Nah. I just need Kang, Thanos and Apocalypse so I can get a true Masters of Evil group. ;)


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Nah. I just need Kang, Thanos and Apocalypse so I can get a true Masters of Evil group. ;)

Soooo, a four-way?


....Why do you all go so low?


That was partially my bad I apologize. I mean who would actually want to be in that four way...*shudder*


I'm not sure if I want to just do an eye roll or something else more physical... But considering threats of violence aren't welcome here, I'll stick with the eye roll.


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When you find some villains worthy of shining Doctor Doom's shoes, let me know. ;)


Cole,

Doom isn't the greatest Marvel villain, he's just an above average one.
Like Loki.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Cole,

Doom isn't the greatest Marvel villain, he's just an above average one.
Like Loki.

Your heresy has been noted, but here's the thing... he doesn't have to be the greatest villain to be a better one than Thanos the One-Note Wonder, Apocalypse the "This was supposed to be the friggin' Owl and, eh, let's just make up a new guy with nebulous and ill-defined powers," and Kang the "Who's writing me now? I'm still a bad guy, right?"

You picked like, my top three examples of lousy Marvel Villains who somehow have some traction...


Cole,

Lousy?!! Now who's speaking hersey?!! Also the Owl thing has been overlooked now that's hardly a thing any more than when Superman cloned himself.


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Cole Deschain wrote:
Apocalypse the "This was supposed to be the friggin' Owl and, eh, let's just make up a new guy with nebulous and ill-defined powers,"

I don't think I knew that, but I recently reread the early X-Factor and damn but Bob Layton was a lousy writer there. How did he get to shape that particular bit of Marvel history.

Got much better when Louise Simonson took the reins. She spent a lot of time trying to clean up and deal with stupidities that got established in those first few issues.

That original Alliance of Evil team fit much better with the Owl than it ever did with what Apocalypse eventually became.


Thejeff,

Alliance of Evil isn't my favorite but Masters of Evil, certainly.

Also yes, Louise did a fine job fixing that.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Lousy?!!

Lousy. Thanos has literally one thing going on, and it's not all that interesting.

Apocalypse is a joke.
Kang is the best of those three, and he's been so inconsistently handled it's just sad.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Alliance of Evil isn't my favorite [snip]

I think it's hilarious that my Handbook to the Marvel Universe has a full page write up on Tower, who was apparently going to be the breakout star of the Alliance of Evil.

30 years later, he's appeared maybe once, and Frenzy, who was some nameless nobody like Stinger and Timeshadow, relegated to sharing a page with the others, has gone on to get a real name (Joanna Cargill), serve on an X-Men team, be appointed as Genoshan Ambassador the UN by Magneto, and even dated Cyclops in some alternate continuity.

There are members of the Mutant Liberation Front who have appeared more than Tower... :)

Frenzy's my favorite of Apocalypse's henchmutants, although I also had a fondness for the first War, Abraham Lincoln Keiros, who, like so many other mutants, I don't think has ever been seen again since his first appearance...


Eh. If I had a favorite Apocalypse henchman, it would be either Exodus or else Sinister.

But that's just me.

Cole...

I'm seriously beginning to reconsider our relationship based on that comment...but at least you admit Kang is cool. So...that's something.


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Eh. If I had a favorite Apocalypse henchman, it would be either Exodus or else Sinister.

But that's just me.

I though Exodus was linked to Magneto, but I was reading kind of sporadically by then and never really figured out what his game was.

The annoying thing about Sinister is that nearly everything about him is a retcon. Including both his original great plot with Madelyne and the link to Apocalypse.

That's kind of a thing with Apocalypse, isn't it. Retroactively getting tied into all kinds of backstories.


thejeff,

Some times. Not always, but some times. But yes Exodus was originally created by Apocalypse to serve him after he fought the original Black Knight. (Not the current one!)


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Set wrote:

I think it's hilarious that my Handbook to the Marvel Universe has a full page write up on Tower, who was apparently going to be the breakout star of the Alliance of Evil.

30 years later, he's appeared maybe once

He was fed to the X-Cutioner as that character's debut kill in 1993, and in a true sign of Marvel irrelevance, has yet to come back from the dead- although he was one of Selene's zombies.


Cole,

Selene does like her undead...minions! I mean.


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He really did look the part. (*snicker*) he was a good thing.

Actually,he looked like a Snickers bar with no chocolate on it!


*gives doc a long hard stare...*

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Cole Deschain wrote:
Apocalypse the "This was supposed to be the friggin' Owl and, eh, let's just make up a new guy with nebulous and ill-defined powers,"

I don't think I knew that, but I recently reread the early X-Factor and damn but Bob Layton was a lousy writer there. How did he get to shape that particular bit of Marvel history.

Got much better when Louise Simonson took the reins. She spent a lot of time trying to clean up and deal with stupidities that got established in those first few issues.

That original Alliance of Evil team fit much better with the Owl than it ever did with what Apocalypse eventually became.

Bob Layton doing x factor is about the time I stopped reading comics. I believe he might have also contributed to some later issues of the Micronaughts..which was my favorite comic but the last dozen or so issues were awful.

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New Trailer.

Its good but it sucks.

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New Trailer.

Its good but it sucks.

Watching Tony have to put up with Quill may make the entire exercise worthwhile by itself...

"See what it's like to be teamed up with an arrogant snarky wiseacre? THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE!"

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CapeCodRPGer wrote:


Its good but it sucks.

Not quite sure I know what that means ...


Marc Radle wrote:
CapeCodRPGer wrote:
Its good but it sucks.
Not quite sure I know what that means ...

CCR is probably channeling Quill's snarky comment.

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Trailer has me hyped, except I'm worried that Stark or Rogers buys the farm.

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Negachaotic Teenage Slaadhead wrote:
that Stark or Rogers buys the farm.

If they do, they'll sell it back next movie anyway. Both are far too popular to stay dead.


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Negachaotic Teenage Slaadhead wrote:
that Stark or Rogers buys the farm.
If they do, they'll sell it back next movie anyway. Both are far too popular to stay dead.

Unless the actors really want out and they decide to take that route. More likely with Downey.

Probably more likely in the 2nd Infinity War than in this one.

As I've said before, I hope they don't go that direction.

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thejeff wrote:

]Unless the actors really want out and they decide to take that route.

In which case they'll likely come back "Scarred and changed from their experience". Ie, new actors will be portraying them :-)


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If I am going to go with a death pool on MCU characters, I am going to guess that in either this or the next, Tony Stark, Steve Rodgers, Nebula, and Loki all buy it in these movies.

Also...my bets is on the soul stone not even showing up in this movie. Rather Thanos wins and gets all the other stones, and avengers and allies will be racing to stop Thanos from completing the gauntlet in the next movie.


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thejeff wrote:
Unless the actors really want out and they decide to take that route.
In which case they'll likely come back "Scarred and changed from their experience". Ie, new actors will be portraying them :-)

That's my preference. Preferably not even acknowledged as "scarred and changed". Just a new actor and carry on. Always worked for Bond. :)

As long as they get good people, it'd be fine.


I still wished they'd show more of the Black Order. Those guys are COOL.


Thomas Seitz wrote:
I still wished they'd show more of the Black Order. Those guys are COOL.

They can't really do too much with them. They're 5 new characters in an already crowded movie. They just aren't going to get much time.


Aw...but, but Corvis Glaive man! He can't die!!! (Well unless you break his weapon but still!)

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Theres a rumor that

Spoiler:
Peter Dinklage is in this as Pip.
Hope thats true.

EDIT:


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Alternatively...Peter Dinklage is voicing a member of the Black Order...


The soul stone is in Wakanda so I am sure it will show up in the movie.


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Dragon78 wrote:
The soul stone is in Wakanda so I am sure it will show up in the movie.

That's been a theory, but we don't actually know it, do we?


MMC,

Why not both?

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MMCJawa wrote:
If I am going to go with a death pool on MCU characters, I am going to guess that in either this or the next, Tony Stark, Steve Rodgers, Nebula, and Loki all buy it in these movies.

I could see Tony and Steve, definitely, because of the actors contracts and stuff.

I would have thought that Thor was an option as well, except for the reaction to Thor: Ragnarok, which leads me to think that there will be more of that sort of whacky comedy hijinks in Thor's future.

Nebula and Loki? Eh. I'm not sure if anyone cares one way or another if Nebula dies, so it would be kind of wasted effort. (Although her dying to advance Gamora's story seems all-too possible.) I'm not sure that Marvel *wants* to kill Loki yet, although I do feel that his story is done (and has been for awhile now...).

I expect both Vision and Dr. Strange to survive the loss of their respective infinity stones (although Vision might well be critically damaged and need to be mostly rebuilt).

If the timing were different, and Ant-Man and the Wasp was debuting before Infinity War, I'd nominate Scott for a shocking death. Killing giant folk / massive creatures and having them crash to the ground is always good for dramatic impact. But, since his movie is set months after Infinity War, I guess he's bulletproof. For now...

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I'm wondering if Drax will make it. I could see him going out in a fight with Thanos. But He is a fan favorite.


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Dragon78 wrote:
The soul stone is in Wakanda so I am sure it will show up in the movie.

That's never been confirmed. In the comics, IIRC, Adam Warlock has the soul stone (or eventually has it), who is alluded to at the end of GotG2 (which takes place several years before Infinity War). And it's been hinted that at least one major marvel character who has never appeared before might be showing up in the 4th Avengers. So it would make sense that the soul stone might be saved for the 4th Avengers.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

MMC,

Why not both?

I mean...my sense is that the rumors about Pip being in the movie are entirely due to people assuming that Peter Dinklage can ONLY BE PLAYING A SHORT CHARACTER. I've never heard anything solid about the rumor.

That is why I think he is going to be voicing one of the Black Order. In fact, my bet would be on Ebony Maw, as he seems to perhaps be the most likely character to get a decent number of lines.

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