Animal Companion Confusion


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Hi. First time playing an RPG and I'm confused about animal companions and their feats. I'm playing a mounted archery ranger, currently level 5, and have been roughly following Lastoths Guide to Archery Rangers which I found on this board's 'Guide to the Class Guides' sticky post. One notable exception: I am planning to take boon companion at level 7.

One of the build's strengths is getting AoOs, thus giving my mount feats like Improved Overrun and Greater Overrun is valuable.

My confusion is how early the online builds (and some posts from other players) are granting these feats to their companions. The way I read the rules, Greater Overrun requires BAB of +6, which the wolf doesn't get until companion HD 8 which happens at druid level 9.

Yet Lasthoths says: "level by level... 6-9: Now you can fire into cover. Once you have snap shot remember to put an arrow in anyone your mount overruns, assuming you have Greater Overrun." ... and the craziest part is that his build doesn't have boon companion, meaning at ranger level 9 that looks to me like a druid level 6 and thus a companion BAB of only +4.

And another popular build suggests taking boon companion at level 7 and suggests Wolf Feat Selections: 7) Power Attack, Improved Overrun, Greater Overrun;. But again, at level 7 with boon that means druid level 7 means companion BAB of only +4.

Additionally, I've seen a few posts of players talking about their companions and feats and they have given their companions some feats even though I can't see how their companions could have met the feat prerequisites.

What am I missing here? Do feat prerequisites not apply to animal companions? I see that the rules say Animal companions with an Intelligence of 3 or higher can select any feat they are physically capable of using. GMs might expand this list to include feats from other sources. but i didn't read that to mean that they get to bypass the feat's requirements...

Thanks in advance.

Grand Lodge

As far as I can tell, you are not missing anything.

Greater Overrun does indeed have a +6 BaB prereq, meaning your companion can not take it till Druid Level 10, (Ranger level 13, unless you have boon companion, which makes it ranger level 10)

It may be a typo.


misted wrote:

Hi. First time playing an RPG and I'm confused about animal companions and their feats. I'm playing a mounted archery ranger, currently level 5, and have been roughly following Lastoths Guide to Archery Rangers which I found on this board's 'Guide to the Class Guides' sticky post. One notable exception: I am planning to take boon companion at level 7.

One of the build's strengths is getting AoOs, thus giving my mount feats like Improved Overrun and Greater Overrun is valuable.

My confusion is how early the online builds (and some posts from other players) are granting these feats to their companions. The way I read the rules, Greater Overrun requires BAB of +6, which the wolf doesn't get until companion HD 8 which happens at druid level 9.

Yet Lasthoths says: "level by level... 6-9: Now you can fire into cover. Once you have snap shot remember to put an arrow in anyone your mount overruns, assuming you have Greater Overrun." ... and the craziest part is that his build doesn't have boon companion, meaning at ranger level 9 that looks to me like a druid level 6 and thus a companion BAB of only +4.

And another popular build suggests taking boon companion at level 7 and suggests Wolf Feat Selections: 7) Power Attack, Improved Overrun, Greater Overrun;. But again, at level 7 with boon that means druid level 7 means companion BAB of only +4.

Additionally, I've seen a few posts of players talking about their companions and feats and they...

I suppose Assimar oracles could get there with their revelation favored bonus. Nature or Lunar oracle, at level 6 your animal will be a 9.


Well, one of the 2 guides that I linked to has corrected their build to delay Greater Overrun. So I guess the good news is that I properly understood the rules. The bad news is that the builds I was following aren't quite as useful as I thought.

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