sspitfire1 |
Greetings folks! I decided to do another quick survey to help GW get a better sense of where we all stand on the start of EE. The survey is brief- should take less than 5 minutes.
Please promote the survey to people you know who are vested in the game but not currently active on the Paizo forum due to the lull in development activity.
This survey will be live for 3 days before being closed.
The link is below:
https://duke.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0Dmrs9nvbcXHwMd
Thanks!
Gloreindl Goblin Squad Member |
Filled out, though I wish you had an option for "When do you think EE should start, based upon current state of the game?" and list various dates ranging from a week to 3+ months. That would add a much needed metric for this poll:
1) 1-2 weeks
2) 2-3 weeks
3) 1 month
4) 1-2 months
5) 2-3 months
6) longer than 3 months
sspitfire1 |
Filled out, though I wish you had an option for "When do you think EE should start, based upon current state of the game?" and list various dates ranging from a week to 3+ months. That would add a much needed metric for this poll:
1) 1-2 weeks
2) 2-3 weeks
3) 1 month
4) 1-2 months
5) 2-3 months
6) longer than 3 months
Yeah I started to do one like that but I was kinda taking this as a quick-and-dirty survey instead of an optimal survey. That question would have taken too much brain power to make sure I did it right. Sorry!
Part of the issue there would have been figuring out whether to put it in terms of time or in terms of number of builds or in terms of content.
sspitfire1 |
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Switched to "Survey Temporarily Unavailable" after I submitted the final answer. Should I retake it or just leave it?
I did laugh at one of my answers - "Happy" to wait 4 weeks/month, but only because they're releasing DA3 on the 360...otherwise 2 weeks.
No, you are fine.
If you completed the survey but it did not submit properly (or don't submit it at all), it will automatically time out after 4 hours, recording your responses as they are. So either way it is a completed survey.
Valkenr Goblin Squad Member |
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sspitfire1 |
Valkenr wrote:I think EE is starting once they get the desync issues fixed. Feature wise, the game is ready for EE to start.Agreed. But I do think getting the PVP Towers working is important.
Even if they are working, I don't think towers are planned to come into play until week 2 of EE.
Caldeathe Baequiannia Goblin Squad Member |
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Bluddwolf Goblin Squad Member |
I would have preferred an option other than Yes/No on if I'd play if EE launched as is. I'd play, but it wouldn't be much. Maybe an hour or two a week.
Yes, I found the options were all predicated on EE happening soon, and we deciding if we would join in EE.
I would have preferred an option that suggested putting off EE for weeks or even months.
I personally think EE should be pushed off until at least 2 - 3 more builds are completed and tested. If that means roughly Q1 of 2015, then so be it.
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Tyncale Goblin Squad Member |
Thanks for the survey! I would have liked to see an question where there was a differentiation between "Paid, as in start using up the months I already have on my account" and "Paid, as in, need to spend 15 dollars right now".
Because with the latter, I would have answered that first question about wether I would pay to play, differently(as in, no, not yet).
Those months on my account are paid and lost anyway, so may as well start collecting that xp. So I think you are going to see some false positives with that first question. Reading the forums lately, you see a lot of "Sure, I'll be spending my months from day 1, but after they are used up, I will reconsider and see if I keep paying".
I have a feeling that a lot of those people might have answered that question differently also if they had that option.
sspitfire1 |
I would have preferred an option that suggested putting off EE for weeks or even months.
Yeah I started to do one like that but I was kinda taking this as a quick-and-dirty survey instead of an optimal survey. That question would have taken too much brain power to make sure I did it right. Sorry!
Part of the issue there would have been figuring out whether to put it in terms of time or in terms of number of builds or in terms of content.
Bluddwolf Goblin Squad Member |
I believe that the major draw for starting day one of EE, is not to actually play the game in that state but to begin accumulating xp from day one.
Regardless of what Ryan said on the point that he was hoping not to have people banking all of that XP, and then "Bang!!" you're a high level noob. The reality is, the XP is the real time constrained factor, not the achievement grind.
It will probably only take a day or two (or approximately 8 hours) to kill a few hundred Goblins, with multiple weapons (especially for Fighters), to unlock level 8+ Roles.
sspitfire1 |
I believe that the major draw for starting day one of EE, is not to actually play the game in that state but to begin accumulating xp from day one.
Regardless of what Ryan said on the point that he was hoping not to have people banking all of that XP, and then "Bang!!" you're a high level noob. The reality is, the XP is the real time constrained factor, not the achievement grind.
It will probably only take a day or two (or approximately 8 hours) to kill a few hundred Goblins, with multiple weapons (especially for Fighters), to unlock level 8+ Roles.
Yup. Which will factor into my analysis of the results when we get there.
DeciusBrutus Goblinworks Executive Founder |
randomwalker Goblin Squad Member |
again a very good survey, Sspitfire
(at least for the issues you set out to investigate).
to me the key issue for EE is not so much such-and-such specific feature, but that the features claimed to be in are working meaningfully. Otherwise the impression quickly becomes that GW would like to sell me gold-painted kaka.
Features don't even have to work in their final form, as long as there is transparent info of how it actually works now + how it will work eventually.
Mouseover text "functionality for this skill has not been implemented" is ok, repeated or predictable server crashes are not.
Schedim Goblin Squad Member |
sspitfire1 |
Survey Closed.
Results "at a glance"
About 100 respondents, representing a highly active group of players
Roughly 80% of folks will accept another 1 month or more delay on EE
2/3 of people said they would play the game, paid, "in its current state" (meaning Alpha 11.0)
This increases to 3/4 of respondents playing the game if the first month of EE were free
This increases to 83% of respondents playing the game if EE were free until the server issues are fixed
Not surprisingly, 90% of respondents said the server issues are a deal breaker for EE.
Take Home Message: People will play in EE if it were to start today; but a significant portion won't. Fixing the server issues is the biggest priority to players and the single largest detractor of value to the game right now.
Questison I did not ask but would have been good to:
"If EE started tomorrow and the server issues were 100% fixed, would you play?" (we can infer that that would be close to 80% or higher)
"How long would you LIKE to see EE delayed by?" (We can infer the mean would have been at least 1 month, but the key determinant is content, not time, so it is difficult to say)
Cleaner analysis to come later when I have cleaned and processed the raw data.
sspitfire1 |
So everything above is accurate without needing further elaboration.
The two biggest things that folks wrote in as deal breakers are Auction House UI (specifically its searchability) and Combat (various aspects).
Other mentions were the UI generally being more intuitive, better newbie tutorials, and meaningful game play (mainly in the form of more players for more social interaction).
Thanks for participating!
Caldeathe Baequiannia Goblin Squad Member |
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Calidor Cruciatus Goblin Squad Member |
Right, but those most interested and motivated to play are the ones on here.
If I survey the Republican Convention about who's going to vote for their candidate I'm going to get a much skewed response that doesn't reflect reality. (Same for the Democratic Convention or any other one...)
All this survey says is that 80 people who frequent these forums will play in EE. Absolutely no further extrapolation can be made.
Thinking otherwise is simply a result of the echo chamber effect so common around here.
Caldeathe Baequiannia Goblin Squad Member |
sspitfire1 |
Right, but those most interested and motivated to play are the ones on here.
If I survey the Republican Convention about who's going to vote for their candidate I'm going to get a much skewed response that doesn't reflect reality. (Same for the Democratic Convention or any other one...)
All this survey says is that 80 people who frequent these forums will play in EE. Absolutely no further extrapolation can be made.
Thinking otherwise is simply a result of the echo chamber effect so common around here.
Yeah Calidor, you need to go reread my post. Especially the part in bold. Before you go slamming my analysis and claiming I said things I didn't, anyways. I'm a fanboy, not an idiot analyst.
DeciusBrutus Goblinworks Executive Founder |
Right, but those most interested and motivated to play are the ones on here.
If I survey the Republican Convention about who's going to vote for their candidate I'm going to get a much skewed response that doesn't reflect reality. (Same for the Democratic Convention or any other one...)
All this survey says is that 80 people who frequent these forums will play in EE. Absolutely no further extrapolation can be made.
Thinking otherwise is simply a result of the echo chamber effect so common around here.
Selection effect is well-documented, and there were questions on the survey specifically intended to evaluate what group the sample was representative of. That's enough to do quite a bit of extrapolation, but certainly not enough to extrapolate to "all eligible players".
sspitfire1 |
The more important thing is this: Say 80% of that 6 or 7K player pool did jump in on day one EE, and EE looked like it did in Alpha 11.
Ouch man. That is going to be a hell of a lot of pissed off, disgruntled players who feel duped. Why? Because they *don't* follow the boards. They'll be expecting a clean running system and get teleported across the map 10 minutes into the game. Then quit.
GW already knows this, of course, which is why they are waiting for server stability to be solid before launching EE.
The larger point of those questions, however, was to see where the avid players in the community are on diving into EE in its Alpha 11 state. People would play, yes. But as Bludd pointed out, a lot of people would just log in to get their Exp counters going. Because I worded the questions so broadly and didn't ask any questions to poke around in that particular issue, it is difficult to say how many people interpreted "play" to include just getting the EXP counter going versus "play" meaning actually spending a meaningful amount of time in the game.
That the number of folks saying "yes" to the free EE questions increased from paid to free for Month 1 to free until the servers are fixed underscores the value of working servers to the players.
Beyond this, we can't really say anymore from these results. But, as I said before, this was a quick and dirty survey. I think I spent all of 1.5 hours putting it together, with most of that time going to formatting.
Oh and no, extrapolating to all players was never the intent. Perhaps I could have clarified that better with an explicit statement. But it was already covered implicitly in the way I presented the results.
Neadenil Edam Goblin Squad Member |