Hey guys.
Can a Rogue with the Minor/Major Magic talents qualify for the Scribe Scroll feat?
The talents say you gain the ability to cast a spell (as a spell-like) with a caster level equal to your rogue level.
I could see it being ok since the rogue technically has the ability to cast a spell and has a valid caster level for it.
I could also see it being not allowed, as the Scribe Scroll feat says "caster level 1" rather than "ability to cast 1st level spells".
What do you think RAW says and would you allow it even if RAW wouldn't?
For the record, I am considering running this by my DM for a Driver Rogue with a magical flair.
He will also be taking "Bookish Rogue and Talented Magician (though we are lvl4)".
- In a sense this would allow quite a fun "fake wizard".
Thanks guys
I haven't inadvertently reanimated a dead horse that has been kicked exactly as many times as necessary to viciate all forum interest have I?
Bump :)
That helps the idea though. It makes it more legit in that the rogue would only be able to make scrolls from the spell known on the date of creation, rather than being a way to create any scroll by raising the dc.
Thanks for the feedback
Yes, the rogue is capable of taking scribe scroll as soon as he has 'minor magic'. Having a SLA grants a caster level equal to your character level (minor/major magic specifically mentions this).
Scribe scroll is not very useful as you can only create scrolls of spells you know. Make sure he also has a bunch of spellcraft to pass the DCs.
Craft wondrous item would probably be more helpful if you have decent treasure income. He can create misc. items that replicate spell effects.
If the game is particularly grueling or low-wealth, I would seriously not do this. It will be expensive to maintain and likely becoming weak after the first few levels. Check with your GM and other players to make sure they aren't creating (or expecting) full caster death machines or other high tier/well optimised classes. You will not have a satisfying time if they are, and might be better off creating a charlatan-type character with a bard or razimiran sorcerer.
RAW says that you need to have the spell prepared or known in case of spontaneous casters - having a spell-like ability isn't either of those, so with strict reading the rogue could take Scribe Scroll feat (he meets the prerequisites of the feat) but wouldn't be able to use it because he does not meet the prerequisites of the creation process - and the spell-trigger and spell-completion items have a specific rule saying that you can't make them without meeting their spell prerequisites so no increasing DC to make them, unlike in case of other types of items.
I don't think that the intent of those rogue talents was allowing the rogue to create items either.
Should it be forbidden? *shrug* It does not seem to be overpowered enough to warrant keeping to the RAW and apparent intent. With treating the spell-like abilities as spells prepared/known restricting the creation of scrolls to those few talents it's investment of one feat into saving on scroll costs with an array of options lower than in case of sorcerer or wizard picking the same feat.
I am hoping to use bookish rogue to have access to all 0-lvl spells and many 1st level ones.
Down time could become very productive.
What is the reason that I wouldn't be able to raise the caster level? My CL for the SLAs is my rogue level.
I am hoping to use bookish rogue to have access to all 0-lvl spells and many 1st level ones.
Down time could become very productive.
What is the reason that I wouldn't be able to raise the caster level? My CL for the SLAs is my rogue level.
Noone mentioned not being able to raise your caster level.
I am hoping to use bookish rogue to have access to all 0-lvl spells and many 1st level ones.
Down time could become very productive.
What is the reason that I wouldn't be able to raise the caster level? My CL for the SLAs is my rogue level.
I really don't get Bookish Rogue... can you replace the spells continuously or is it only once you take the feat?
My understanding is that I can, at least, switch my available spells each day and, best case, switch out as many times as I want per day (10 min each time) so long as I have slots left.