Does raging song (inspired rage) activate Abyssal bloodrage?


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Inspired rage wrote:
If an ally has her own rage class ability (such as barbarian's rage, bloodrager's bloodrage, or skald's inspired rage), she may use the Strength, Constitution, and Will saving throw bonuses, as well as AC penalties, based on her own ability and level instead of those from the skald (still suffering no fatigue afterward). However, inspired rage does not allow the ally to activate abilities dependent on other rage class abilities, such as rage powers, blood casting, or bloodrager bloodlines; the ally must activate her own rage class ability in order to use these features.

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Abyssal bloodrage wrote:
At 12th level, the morale bonus to Strength granted by your bloodrage increases by 2, but the penalty to AC becomes –4 instead of –2. At 16th level, this bonus increases by 4 instead. At 20th level, it increases by 6 instead.

Inspired rage obviously wouldn't allow the Abyssal bloodrager to use their claw ability, since that is neither here nor there with Strength, Con, AC, and Will save adjustments.

But does Abyssal bloodrage count as a bloodline power and thus ineligible to be activated with raging song, or is it simply an inherent alteration of the bonuses of the bloodrager's bloodrage bonuses?


Seems like an inherent change to the bloodrage bonuses.
The way I see it, the bloodrager affected by inspired rage either gets the skald's bonuses and penalties, or her own bloodrage bonuses and penalties as modified by abyssal bloodrage.


Thelemic_Noun wrote:
Inspired rage wrote:
If an ally has her own rage class ability (such as barbarian's rage, bloodrager's bloodrage, or skald's inspired rage), she may use the Strength, Constitution, and Will saving throw bonuses, as well as AC penalties, based on her own ability and level instead of those from the skald (still suffering no fatigue afterward). However, inspired rage does not allow the ally to activate abilities dependent on other rage class abilities, such as rage powers, blood casting, or bloodrager bloodlines; the ally must activate her own rage class ability in order to use these features.

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Abyssal bloodrage wrote:
At 12th level, the morale bonus to Strength granted by your bloodrage increases by 2, but the penalty to AC becomes –4 instead of –2. At 16th level, this bonus increases by 4 instead. At 20th level, it increases by 6 instead.

Inspired rage obviously wouldn't allow the Abyssal bloodrager to use their claw ability, since that is neither here nor there with Strength, Con, AC, and Will save adjustments.

But does Abyssal bloodrage count as a bloodline power and thus ineligible to be activated with raging song, or is it simply an inherent alteration of the bonuses of the bloodrager's bloodrage bonuses?

Is it a bloodline power? Yes

Are bloodline powers specifically excluded? Yes
So no, you don't get abyssal bloodragers benefits from raging song.

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