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Saw it Friday, really liked it. Yes, it can be overly sentimental at times, and I'm still wrapping my head around all the relativity implications, but well worth seeing at the theater.

Spoiler:

I had zero idea Matt Damon was in it. Very well kept secret.

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Saw it Friday night. Spoiler was a surprise for me too.
Give it 4 Stars.

Spoiler:
I thought the voice of T.A.R.S. sounded like George Clooney, but it was really Bill Irwin.


Its probably the best hard sci-fi I have seen. It was excellent, got its science fairly straight, and was consistent with the assumed future science that it explained to the audience well enough for them to follow. I loved the fact that the ships looked like near future ones.


Saw it at the Red Carpet Premiere a week ago today. Initially just wanted to see the movie but had a lot of fun at the Red Carpet Fan Event. Got pictures with Anne Hathaway (she's really good at actually taking pictures with fans), Jessica Chastain and really bad picture with Chris Nolan himself.

Then got seated for the movie at the HUGE Lincoln Center IMAX screen...IN THE 3RD ROW. It was not an ideal movie watching experience.
Still enjoyed the movie though and saw it again on Saturday morning in the same theater in much better seats and it was AMAZING.

IMAX 70MM is fantastic and the sound mix was INSANE. When the Ranger was taking off that first time to link up with the ENDURANCE I swear I felt that launch IN MY CHEST. More of these please, especially WITHOUT the 3D.

All of the performances were solid and Nolan lays out the setup for what happens in the last half of the film in the first half and during several of the discussions between Cooper, Brand, Rom and Doyle.

Also there needs to be TARS and CASE action figures as TARS might have been my favorite character in the movie.

4 Star movie. Please see it in the best possible theater that you can. This is a movie theater movie. Youre gonna lose a lot of the immersion on a regular 50" TV screen of an iPad...


I loved TARS and CASE's personality, but felt their design left something to be desired.

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I liked TARS and CASE's design. They were functional and economical.
They were flat when on the ship so they wouldnt take up space, but they could unfold out multiple parts for a wide variety of uses.

Dark Archive

Total crap.

Well, not totally. The special effects were nice and really well thought out. The plot sucked though, it was very predictable, especially that stupid temporal causality loop.

But that's just according to me and my 2 friends who are still wondering why they had to pay money to waste 3 hours of their lives.

Don't watch this.


Okay...I saw this movie on Sat. I have to say I think Nolan is getting too caught up in his own cleverness.

The Sound was awful...there was scenes where I could not make out the dialogue due to the 'background' music being really too loud.

The plot was both overly 'complex' and predictable. There was really no need half the nonsense in this movie. Somebody should sit Nolan down and explain to him the benefits of KISS. I mean it was could have been a really great movie about Relativity and exploration...instead a little of that and a bunch of silliness. I am referring to...

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The whole communication stuff between the father and the daughter. And the end with the 'people from the future' and the love being a bridge BS. I found ghosts to be a more plausible explanation for it.

I mean I though the acting was great (the bits I could hear), the special effects, even the basic idea of the movie to be great, I loved the design and personalities of the robots, etc. There is a lot of good in this movie but it tried to get clever...and that is when it falls flat for me.

I would save my money and the three hours plus of my life and if I wanted to check a good sci-fi story dealing with Relativity look up a novel called The Forever War.


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John Kretzer wrote:

Okay...I saw this movie on Sat. I have to say I think Nolan is getting too caught up in his own cleverness.

The Sound was awful...there was scenes where I could not make out the dialogue due to the 'background' music being really too loud.

The plot was both overly 'complex' and predictable. There was really no need half the nonsense in this movie. Somebody should sit Nolan down and explain to him the benefits of KISS. I mean it was could have been a really great movie about Relativity and exploration...instead a little of that and a bunch of silliness. I am referring to...

** spoiler omitted **

I mean I though the acting was great (the bits I could hear), the special effects, even the basic idea of the movie to be great, I loved the design and personalities of the robots, etc. There is a lot of good in this movie but it tried to get clever...and that is when it falls flat for me.

I would save my money and the three hours plus of my life and if I wanted to check a good sci-fi story dealing with Relativity look up a novel called The Forever War.

I think the sound was off in your theater because the music was fine in mine, and I usually have issues with volume.

As for the rest of your complaint, I personally liked the fact that they portrayed the scientists as humans with their own philosophies and loved the way they established the world that they were leaving. I got out of the theater and had no idea that the movie was longer than average until I got in my car.


Caineach wrote:
I think the sound was off in your theater because the music was fine in mine, and I usually have issues with volume.

That might have been it.

Caineach wrote:
As for the rest of your complaint, I personally liked the fact that they portrayed the scientists as humans with their own philosophies and loved the way they established the world that they were leaving. I got out of the theater and had no idea that the movie was longer than average until I got in my car.

The thing is I agree with you...it is just the pseudoscience thrown bothered me that it disrupted the rest of the movie.

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I had issues with the sound as well (music completely overpowered dialog).

I've seen some reviews mention it too, so I'm inclined to think it wasn't just a technical issue.

Overall, I thought the movie was OK. Robots were cool. Science was neat. Story was 'eh'. Music had a really strong Koyaanisqatsi vibe going on, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I feel like it didn't fit the film well in places (plus the volume level I mentioned) so it took me out of the story at times.


It seems I'm not scientifically literate enough for the movie to have struck me as unrealistic. I enjoyed it. :P

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There are some things that hurt the mind.


I enjoyed it quite a bit. I do think that this is one of those movies you'll ei love or hate.

As to the science, Niel DeGrasse Tyson praised the science in the film, and that is pretty good for me.

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Neil degrasse Tyson explains the ending

Now I know it must be incomprehensible...if you need him to explain it.


Matt.. Damon?

Dark Archive

Seen last night. Visually awesome, very solid performances by all the actors (the young Murph is brilliant!), sound was a bit too loud but very good "minimal" OST. The robots enjoy the most innovative and believable design in a long time.

Unfortunately, the plot, after

Spoiler:
the gravitational sling scene, when Brand is sent off alone to the last planet

goes missing. Maybe it's sucked into the black hole too.
It becomes a deus ex machina festival, with plot holes becoming so unnervingly thrown into your face, that the movie falls apart.

It's like the director is gone too, very different from the previous two thirds of the movie. Meh.


I really enjoyed everything up until the third act, when I felt like the plot kind of came off the rails. I thought the robots were great (best I've seen in a while, especially in terms of functionality), I thought Damon's character was very realistic and engaging. I liked the character interacts as a whole. Unfortunately, a few things on the back end really undercut it.

Spoiler:

First, for me at least, I found the ending to be very predictable. The moment Murph reveals that the message she got was 'stay', I was pretty certain that the person sending the message was future Cooper. That thought nagged me the rest of the movie until it was proven right.

Second, I felt like the tie up at the end was a little too neat. Yes, everything doesn't work out, but finding him in space at the last minute before he died, then seeing her one more time, then setting off to see Brand was really annoying. Plus, I felt like that was an odd direction to take that relationship and wondered why no one had gone to be waiting to meet Brand before.

Third, the editing between the earth stuff on the farm and the Mann conflict was really oddly done. The Earth stuff added what I thought was unnecessary drama to an already tense set of scenes, and the way it dragged on and on through a huge series of space scenes was infuriating.

That said, the first act was pretty good, and the second act had the best hard sci-fi space exploration that I've seen. The bit about time dilation and relativity in particular drives home the conflict there between our lifespan and the size of space.

Overall I give it 3/4, and recommend it.

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Saw it tonight, I thought it was incredible. Sure, the science in it wasn't exact, there were some places that I think were glossed over -

Spoiler:
For example, the nature of the events that brought Earth to the weird, semi post apocalyptic stage it was in at the beginning of the movie. What kind of scenario results in what we've seen? society denies it's past, most people are farmers, satellite communications don't work... yet the fully functional and liberally used cars and electricity hint society still functions enough to have a tight web of supplies somehow. What happened? did I miss the explanation?

Also, this is nitpicking, but - timing issues. So there's a scene where doctor Mann tries to murder the main character. The good guys manages to call for help, at which point Brand takes the spacecraft and flies at dangerous speeds to reach him. Yet somehow, in the time it took her to get to where he was, Mann managed to make it back on foot to the point from which the spacecraft started it's flight. Can't see how that would work, honestly.

But really, what's important in a hard SF story is not that it will be perfectly accurate with it's science (especially when it comes to black holes and stuff like that, where you can really just guess anything and nobody could really refute you), it's more important that the story will feel plausible, and I think Interstellar does so remarkably.

Aside from the good SF elements the movie had a very likable main character, some solid other characters, excellent acting, and a good story that was well paced. I didn't even mind that I saw the twist coming from the very early parts of the movie - it was a well placed plot element that was set up elegantly. The movie did veer a bit much into sentimental stuff at the end, but honestly I'm willing to forgive this.

PUN TIME, READ AT YOUR OWN PERIL (also, some serious spoilers in there):

Spoiler:

1) Most people would like to think that their gone loved ones are keeping an eye on the from the heaven. Murph was really lucky to actually have her father WATCH her from where he was.
2) As soon as they landed on that first planet, I knew we were going to WAVE at least one character good bye.
3) Some of the scenes on Earth in the second half of the movie were really CORNY.
4) I find it convenient that any potential plot hole in the movie is probably related to the black hole. Could we officially name it a black plot hole if we found one?
5) All in all, I loved this movie. I'd rate it with 5 stars.


Haven't seen the movie yet (and thus am avoiding the spoilers), just heard my friends rambling about it.

Unlike the comments above, they said the science was pretty cutting edge, based on theories and theorems from authors they themselves use in their physics and astronomy research, and that for once they had a decent physicist adviser on the board.

Now I'm curious...


Laurefindel wrote:

Haven't seen the movie yet (and thus am avoiding the spoilers), just heard my friends rambling about it.

Unlike the comments above, they said the science was pretty cutting edge, based on theories and theorems from authors they themselves use in their physics and astronomy research, and that for once they had a decent physicist adviser on the board.

Now I'm curious...

The first 2 hours have (for the most part) really good science.

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Peter Stewart wrote:
Laurefindel wrote:

Haven't seen the movie yet (and thus am avoiding the spoilers), just heard my friends rambling about it.

Unlike the comments above, they said the science was pretty cutting edge, based on theories and theorems from authors they themselves use in their physics and astronomy research, and that for once they had a decent physicist adviser on the board.

Now I'm curious...

The first 2 hours have (for the most part) really good science.

And the thing with the last hour is that, due to the nature of what's happening, it is in the realm of pure speculation. It does not have much to do with science, but then it also doesn't contradict it, as far as we know. Sure, some details are glossed over, but those that are do not feel crucial to the story.


I saw it and loved it... it does something I haven't seen in a LONG, LONG time. It shows us hope and asks us to broaden our horizons.

The early-movie society on Earth seems to be a pretty direct analogy to what large parts of the establishment are telling us today: We need to be cautious, save, lower our demands, and cut down on frivolous things to focus on what society NEEDS. And yet, the movie tries to tell us that given the right circumstances, it doesn't seem to be impossible to aim higher and actually get somewhere. Even if we're all at heart selfish bastards.

The science is sort of problematic, with obvious things like if they land on a higher-gravity planet, how can the shuttle take off when it can't do that without a rocket from Earth? I mean, it is rocket science, but it's pretty obvious. It didn't bother me too much, though, given what else the movie does. Something that did bother me about the ending, however, is that no matter the circumstances for it, you can't have something causing itself to happen. That paradox is not so easy to swallow, I think, even if the black hole stuff is pretty much handwave territory.


Lord Snow wrote:

Saw it tonight, I thought it was incredible. Sure, the science in it wasn't exact, there were some places that I think were glossed over -

** spoiler omitted **

But really, what's important in a hard SF story is not that it will be perfectly accurate with it's science (especially when it comes to black holes and stuff like that, where you can really just guess anything and nobody could really refute you), it's more important that the story will feel plausible, and I think Interstellar does so remarkably.

Aside from the good SF elements the movie had a very likable main character, some solid other characters, excellent acting, and a good story that was well paced. I didn't even mind that I saw the twist coming from the very early parts of the movie - it was a well placed plot element that was set up elegantly. The movie did veer a bit much into sentimental stuff at the end, but honestly I'm willing to forgive this.

PUN TIME, READ AT YOUR OWN PERIL (also, some serious spoilers in there):
** spoiler omitted **...

Reply to spoiler 1.

She is taking off from a different location than where he returns to. They left from the location that he returns to, and they mention before leaving that she took the ship to a different place to set stuff up.


Sissyl wrote:

I saw it and loved it... it does something I haven't seen in a LONG, LONG time. It shows us hope and asks us to broaden our horizons.

The early-movie society on Earth seems to be a pretty direct analogy to what large parts of the establishment are telling us today: We need to be cautious, save, lower our demands, and cut down on frivolous things to focus on what society NEEDS. And yet, the movie tries to tell us that given the right circumstances, it doesn't seem to be impossible to aim higher and actually get somewhere. Even if we're all at heart selfish bastards.

The science is sort of problematic, with obvious things like if they land on a higher-gravity planet, how can the shuttle take off when it can't do that without a rocket from Earth? I mean, it is rocket science, but it's pretty obvious. It didn't bother me too much, though, given what else the movie does. Something that did bother me about the ending, however, is that no matter the circumstances for it, you can't have something causing itself to happen. That paradox is not so easy to swallow, I think, even if the black hole stuff is pretty much handwave territory.

Who is to say the shuttle can't take off from earth? Just because they use a booster for earth, that just means they get to carry and conserve fuel for later.

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Caineach wrote:
Lord Snow wrote:

Saw it tonight, I thought it was incredible. Sure, the science in it wasn't exact, there were some places that I think were glossed over -

** spoiler omitted **

But really, what's important in a hard SF story is not that it will be perfectly accurate with it's science (especially when it comes to black holes and stuff like that, where you can really just guess anything and nobody could really refute you), it's more important that the story will feel plausible, and I think Interstellar does so remarkably.

Aside from the good SF elements the movie had a very likable main character, some solid other characters, excellent acting, and a good story that was well paced. I didn't even mind that I saw the twist coming from the very early parts of the movie - it was a well placed plot element that was set up elegantly. The movie did veer a bit much into sentimental stuff at the end, but honestly I'm willing to forgive this.

PUN TIME, READ AT YOUR OWN PERIL (also, some serious spoilers in there):
** spoiler omitted **...

Reply to spoiler 1.

She is taking off from a different location than where he returns to. They left from the location that he returns to, and they mention before leaving that she took the ship to a different place to set stuff up.

Oh, thanks. I forgot about that, but now that you said I do vaguly remember them saying something like that.

Sovereign Court

Just saw it. Amazing.

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Sissyl wrote:

I saw it and loved it... it does something I haven't seen in a LONG, LONG time. It shows us hope and asks us to broaden our horizons.

The early-movie society on Earth seems to be a pretty direct analogy to what large parts of the establishment are telling us today: We need to be cautious, save, lower our demands, and cut down on frivolous things to focus on what society NEEDS. And yet, the movie tries to tell us that given the right circumstances, it doesn't seem to be impossible to aim higher and actually get somewhere. Even if we're all at heart selfish bastards.

The science is sort of problematic, with obvious things like if they land on a higher-gravity planet, how can the shuttle take off when it can't do that without a rocket from Earth? I mean, it is rocket science, but it's pretty obvious. It didn't bother me too much, though, given what else the movie does. Something that did bother me about the ending, however, is that no matter the circumstances for it, you can't have something causing itself to happen. That paradox is not so easy to swallow, I think, even if the black hole stuff is pretty much handwave territory.

Since thread was bumped anyway,

[spoiler]IIRC, the higher gravity came mostly from the black hole and not so much from the planet itself. So escaping from the planet was not really that much of a problem, since its impact is minor in the total some of gravitational forces working on them.[spoiler]

Sovereign Court

Who put the wormhole in our solar system in the first place? Advanced humans from the future who mastered the gravitational formulas... that TARS derived within the black hole after arriving there through the worm hole??? I keep thinking someone else other than humans had to create the first singularity...

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