Large race Synthesist!!!! Please Help


Rules Questions


So if you have a player who is playing a large race and starts at level 1 Summoner, Synthesist Archtype can he fuse with his eidolon? And what if someone/yourself casts Enlarge Person on you. The Rule(The eidolon must be at least the same size as the synthesist.)
Here are the options/questions i can think of.

1) Does the eidolon automatically start the same size as the race?

2) Does he wait till level 2 to have 4 points in the Evolution Pool and ignore the level 8 requirement?

3) Does he wait till level 8 for the Large Evolution requirement?

Scenario Question- A player is a werebear synthesist, when he is in hybrid form he increases in size. (This greatly differs from the spell Enlarge Person as you could say the eidolon magically increases, but again the key is COULD SAY.) What are the mechanical rules for the eidolon to fuse with the synthesist?


As of RAW he must wait to level 8 i Think. Pehaps he Can use shrink person and then be with his eidololn for a few minutes. But the AT is so full of problems that it is Best left alone. I would reskinn a bloodrager if it was me.


What Large race is he playing ? I assume its a non-standard race in which case your already stretching the rules so the legal interpretation isn't that important as is the rule that makes sense for the table


My player is a level 4 half elf Synthesist, he drew from the deck of Harrow and got the cards for, increased in size and became a Werebear.


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Viking Eudy wrote:
My player is a level 4 half elf Synthesist, he drew from the deck of Harrow and got the cards for, increased in size and became a Werebear.

First. Dont use things that screw the game over like the deck on Many fails.

Second. Let your player enjoy being big and furry and using his summon monster SLA until level 8.

Scarab Sages

First off, I love the deck of many things. Use it every chance you get!

Second, my suggestion would be to extend the size benefits from the card to the eidolon.


On my table i would ignore this part of the rules

Fused Eidolon wrote:
The eidolon must be at least the same size as the synthesist.

The only ability that causes trouble is the natural reach of the large summoner. All other rules like STR, DEX, CON, HP, natural attack, attack limits etc. can be used. There is no problem.

So basically a large summoner looses his natural reach until the eidolon grows large or it has the reach evolution.


Hmmm, what size would a halfling synthesist be at level one with the eidolon manifested?

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