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Yes, this is a silly question, but once I thought of it I was only able to resist posting/asking about it for a few days.
In PFS, having a Pathfinder Society / Pathfinder / Paizo shirt gives you one free reroll per scenario. Is that something that might crossover to PFSACG?
Thanks!
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Yes, this is a silly question, but once I thought of it I was only able to resist posting/asking about it for a few days.
In PFS, having a Pathfinder Society / Pathfinder / Paizo shirt gives you one free reroll per scenario. Is that something that might crossover to PFSACG?
Thanks!
Hmm...That could be interesting, but a different set of rules would be needed. PFS it permits one d20 reroll, which barring the hint of Mike's post the other day for WotR, isn't currently used in the card game.
To have the same "effect" for the ACG I think it'd have to be similar in nature to the reroll mechanic given by reach weapons in the card game (at least the mechanic reach weapons had in the RoRL, as I haven't used on in S&S yet).
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If it did...then what use would there be for Meliski's ability :-(
This is once per scenario ... unless told otherwise, I'll allow it ...
(That last desperate attempt against the villain. Everyone throws everything at the bad guy ... blessings, ranged shots. And Valeros rolls three 1's on d12s. REROLL PLEASE!)
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Well...
1 - Off the top of my head I don't know what ability that is...
2 - Not every party will have a Meliski with them?
3 - Maybe not early on, but in the later scenarios, having more ways to help your party survive can't be bad, can it?
In truth, this was a half-joking question, but only half :P
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Meliski's ability:
When a character at your location would fail a check, you may recharge a card (□ or shuffle it into your deck) to allow her to reroll 1 die (□ 2 dice). She must take the second result.
I think there are other classes and items that allow something like that. But would it be a game changer allowing 1 reroll...probably. :-) As Theryon said...use it on the last desperate attempt on the BBEG. :-)
Tis Season 0...things like this will likely get hammered out eventually. If it happens (or not), I am fine with it.
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The mechanics of the shirt reroll is well defined in the PFS guide. Because the d20 is significant for a To Hit or Save (or other) roll, it is understandable that it is a d20.
But for PFSACG, you can't distinguish which die is going to be important. That's why I am saying just an across-the-board reroll of all the dice in one roll. That's why I'm not a fan of changing it to a 2 die blessing instead of reroll. It is meant to be a reroll in PFS because you're supporting the company's products.
From reading over the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play, it looks like the shirt reroll happens before you know what target you were trying to reach. That "mystery" is gone in the card game.
A related question though is, if you use the Ultra Pro playmat, do you get the special ability from it in Organized Play? "Once per game, at the start of your turn, you may discard a card to draw a card."
Ninja'd on the second part.
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Since the shirt question was asked (which I feel should carry over into the Card Guild)....What of the playmat ability? Is that legal for organized play?
Tim
So you're doing the playmat for the "folio" paragraph? If someone uses ANY Ultra-Pro character playmat, I'd say yes. (Since most characters are not represented in OP as playmats.)
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From reading over the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play, it looks like the shirt reroll happens before you know what target you were trying to reach. That "mystery" is gone in the card game.
A related question though is, if you use the Ultra Pro playmat, do you get the special ability from it in Organized Play? "Once per game, at the start of your turn, you may discard a card to draw a card."
Ninja'd on the second part.
Yeah, the mystery is gone but still ... I think it fits.
If you look at the guide, below the official shirts, is a paragraph that if you have a copy of the Character Folio you can get a reroll. Only one reroll per session, though. So can't combine it with the shirt. It is more of an instead of ...
I think that's what was meant about using the playmats.
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I was thinking for the 'discard and draw' ability once per scenario...since that is the benefit that is printed with the playmats...
We've actually never used that ability (for the mats). We felt that maybe a "recharge to draw" would have been better. We didn't like having to immediately take damage. :-/
But in either case ... playmat for reroll or discard/draw would be appropriate.
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I see no reason not to allow the play at powers to be used for their written power. However, being that OP is an official play of the game, and house rules are not allowed, I certainly won't be allowing any rerolls from the shirt or mats until Paizo says the rule applies to PACG.
Of course! We're just justifying why such a change should be made to the guide ... since it is already in the other PFS guide.
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I see no reason not to allow the play at powers to be used for their written power. However, being that OP is an official play of the game, and house rules are not allowed, I certainly won't be allowing any rerolls from the shirt or mats until Paizo says the rule applies to PACG.Of course! We're just justifying why such a change should be made to the guide ... since it is already in the other PFS guide.
Actually wrote that before leaving home, when the last post was yours saying "unless told otherwise, I'll allow it". Noticed when I came home for a bit that I never hit Submit Post! Maybe that part was in connection the Meliski thing, it just didn't read that way to me.
I don't think it being in the other PFS guide is really a reason to even consider it. For starters, they are both Organized Play, other than that, there is practically no connection between the two. Also, Pathfinder RPG doesn't have a general "buy our product, get a game bonus" rule, the card game does with the playmats. At best, making the fair comparison to me would be "Alright, both PFS games have a benefit for buying more products, all's fair now."
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I see no reason not to allow the play at powers to be used for their written power. However, being that OP is an official play of the game, and house rules are not allowed, I certainly won't be allowing any rerolls from the shirt or mats until Paizo says the rule applies to PACG.Of course! We're just justifying why such a change should be made to the guide ... since it is already in the other PFS guide.Actually wrote that before leaving home, when the last post was yours saying "unless told otherwise, I'll allow it". Noticed when I came home for a bit that I never hit Submit Post! Maybe that part was in connection the Meliski thing, it just didn't read that way to me.
I don't think it being in the other PFS guide is really a reason to even consider it. For starters, they are both Organized Play, other than that, there is practically no connection between the two. Also, Pathfinder RPG doesn't have a general "buy our product, get a game bonus" rule, the card game does with the playmats. At best, making the fair comparison to me would be "Alright, both PFS games have a benefit for buying more products, all's fair now."
Well, both OP systems are being setup as marketing tools to help get the product out there and in the view of gamers... Giving a slight bonus to those that purchase some of the side add-on products was a good step (IMO) for the current society play, and could have the same incentive for selling play-mats and the like here.
I've seen a LOT of players that have purchased the character folio for PFS solely for the reroll capability, both locally and around the midwest at the various cons I've GM'd at.
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There is no reroll mechanic listed in the PFS ACG Guide, and the PFS RPG Guide does not apply.
That said, it's a good idea, and one I'm sure will be given some serious consideration in the future.
That's why we're requesting that the shirt reroll be added to the PFSACG guide.
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That's why we're requesting that the shirt reroll be added to the PFSACG guide.There is no reroll mechanic listed in the PFS ACG Guide, and the PFS RPG Guide does not apply.
That said, it's a good idea, and one I'm sure will be given some serious consideration in the future.
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