bloodrager archtype metamagic rager and metamagic feat interaction question


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Can a bloodrager with the meta-rage ability quicken spells ever?
Does he have to be able to use the magic feat normally first?
If not he can quicken spells sooner than a wizard can.
If so he can never use the quicken spell feat.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

The meta magic rager is not restricted by the spell levels. A 5th level meta magic rager with the quicken metamagic feat can spend 10 rounds of rage and swift action cast any of their spells.

At least, as written, that's how the ability works. Is does seem kind of weird, but there you go.


Wouldn't it be 8 rounds of rage?

Dark Archive

10 rounds for a first-level spell, 12 for a second, etc. It's twice the adjusted spell level, not twice the adjustment.


i do love that aberrant bloodline and the right ioun stone equals ragecycling your way to better casting.

Liberty's Edge

When my bloodrager hits 5th level I'm looking forward to using quickened True Strike plus Blade Lash. Add in BAB, raging Strength bonus and a +1 weapon and she will have +42 to trip someone up to 20 feet away. That will eat 11 rounds of rage and 2 spells, but my half orc bloodrager will have 19 rounds of rage by that point. As long as I don't roll a one, anything remotely level appropriate that isn't too big or otherwise immune to trip should fall down at that point. Good times.


Ah... still cool though.


Still nice for extending your long duration buffs as you have few castings.

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