So I was wondering what character would be a good fit for this feat chain, I am interested in characters of no higher than 15th level.
There is monk ofcourse but since a monk can only take the first feat at level 12 the really interesting feats tend to not make it before exceedingly high levels. I considered going Horizon Walker instead, astral plane dominion gives dimension door 3+wis mod/day dimension doors, could even combine it with monk for alot of dimensional fun.
monk 12 HW 3, alot of dimensional potential, a wisdom of 18 could allow you to dimension door 12 times per day, 7 times from HW alone and the wisdom has some nice synergy with monk, maybe some archetypes especially suited for this combination
Ninja(or rogue) 12 HW 3, mostly fun for independent flanking and safe SA
magus 15, can't really get the most out off it since it gets dimension door late, but is otherwise a simple effective build on it's own merrit
wizard 5 fighter 1 EK 9, can get the feat chain more complete than the magus by level 15 and gets a few bonus feats so there is some room for improving battle prowess through other feats
barbarian 12 HW 3, no synergy with wisdom but full BAB a bit tricky to combine with rage but should be able to see use twice per encounter still with moment of clarity after the initial 'jump', dropping a barbarian in the middle of the enemy lines seems fun.
ranger 12 HW 3, got some synergy potential through wisdom and favored terrains, not sure about archetypes helping this combination
Looking for fun/effective builds with these feats, for simplicity sake assuming level 15. Maybe some fun feat combinations or other creative ways to get the feat requirements, curious to see what the community can come up with
Someone pointed out in another thread that a Synthesist Summoner can get access to Dimension Door much earlier.
Someone pointed out in another thread that a Synthesist Summoner can get access to Dimension Door much earlier.
I just read it, that might be interesting with it's decent BAB and early access it can complete the feat chain at 13 or 15. Not really a big fan of summoners though, maybe I can tweak the class to feel more likable thematically.
Just reflavor the Synthesist eidolon as a badass suit of magical armor.
So I was wondering what character would be a good fit for this feat chain, I am interested in characters of no higher than 15th level.
There is monk ofcourse but since a monk can only take the first feat at level 12 the really interesting feats tend to not make it before exceedingly high levels. I considered going Horizon Walker instead, astral plane dominion gives dimension door 3+wis mod/day dimension doors, could even combine it with monk for alot of dimensional fun.
monk 12 HW 3, alot of dimensional potential, a wisdom of 18 could allow you to dimension door 12 times per day, 7 times from HW alone and the wisdom has some nice synergy with monk, maybe some archetypes especially suited for this combination
Ninja(or rogue) 12 HW 3, mostly fun for independent flanking and safe SA
magus 15, can't really get the most out off it since it gets dimension door late, but is otherwise a simple effective build on it's own merrit
wizard 5 fighter 1 EK 9, can get the feat chain more complete than the magus by level 15 and gets a few bonus feats so there is some room for improving battle prowess through other feats
barbarian 12 HW 3, no synergy with wisdom but full BAB a bit tricky to combine with rage but should be able to see use twice per encounter still with moment of clarity after the initial 'jump', dropping a barbarian in the middle of the enemy lines seems fun.
ranger 12 HW 3, got some synergy potential through wisdom and favored terrains, not sure about archetypes helping this combination
Looking for fun/effective builds with these feats, for simplicity sake assuming level 15. Maybe some fun feat combinations or other creative ways to get the feat requirements, curious to see what the community can come up with
Maybe I'm missing something, but how does Ninja 12, HW 3 get access to Dimensional feats?
Ninja with those feats would be the craziest assassin.
Maybe I'm missing something, but how does Ninja 12, HW 3 get access to Dimensional feats?
Ninja with those feats would be the craziest assassin.
Horizon Walker with mastery of the astral plane gets Dimension Door as an SLA 3+Wis modifier times per day.
Ah, got it.
Crap, 3 levels off Ninja to get it though.
Wonder if there's an easier way to get access to the feats as a ninja?
Missing the old Ninja of the Crescent Moon ;)
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I just wanted to point out one fairly big advantage for Monks with this. The distance you can hop is based on your speed. A monk 12/ HW 3 is going to have a base move speed of 70 and can Ki boost his speed to 90 which means he can hop a total distance of 180 feet, hopping in from 70 feet away, doing a full attack, and hopping out. A Hasted person would only be able to bump his movement to 60 feet.
I just wanted to point out one fairly big advantage for Monks with this. The distance you can hop is based on your speed. A monk 12/ HW 3 is going to have a base move speed of 70 and can Ki boost his speed to 90 which means he can hop a total distance of 180 feet, hopping in from 70 feet away, doing a full attack, and hopping out. A Hasted person would only be able to bump his movement to 60 feet.
Magic items don't let you qualify for feats right?
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Magic items don't let you qualify for feats right?I just wanted to point out one fairly big advantage for Monks with this. The distance you can hop is based on your speed. A monk 12/ HW 3 is going to have a base move speed of 70 and can Ki boost his speed to 90 which means he can hop a total distance of 180 feet, hopping in from 70 feet away, doing a full attack, and hopping out. A Hasted person would only be able to bump his movement to 60 feet.
Only items that give you a permanent benefit. For example headbands and belts that bump abilities.
So one could make a dimension door belt or something to qualify for these feats?
No, it has to be an ongoing benefit, based on a spell that has a duration. So the belts that give you +2 to strength might qualify you for power attack.
Crap, so that's a no go.
Hm...I'm not sure 3 levels is worth it then. Though it sounds so badass.
While I was looking into the Horizon Walker, I noticed it can be a very very nasty class, better able to specialize in killing a particular enemy than even the ranger. A Demon Slayer type of character would in the end 10 levels in the PrC get +18 'favored enemy bonus' against evil outsiders, as well as a +1 insight attack and damage versus outsiders in general, though rogues, rangers and ninja's could get the bonus higher by selecting additional favored terrain upping the bonus on 'evil aligned plane' every time.
I am more likely to spread the bonuses out a little though, I could get three favored terrains/dominions as a ranger 6 HW 9, I could pick astral, evil aligned plane and urban or desert as dominion.
Urban would give me a wide variety of humanoid favored enemies, giving me roughly +6 FE bonus against most humanoids and other urban creatures and +10 versus evil outsiders (+1 for astral dominion).
Picking desert would make me immune to fatigue if I choose to combine with Wild Stalker that would be very useful for rages but otherwise would keep me focused on evil outsiders, for +14 FE bonus as well as +1/+1 insight bonus from astral domain at lvl 15.
Ranger archetypes that trade in hunter's bond and favored enemy could be pretty decent for this character. Guide is a good fit, warden might be decent as well for extra terrain, Wild Stalker is doable since desert dominion and moment of clarity make it possible to combine rage and dimensional feats.
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Question on this. in the advanced player's guide they give wizards the ability to choose a focused arcane school as part of their speciality. The conjuration wizard has the ability to choose the teleportation school ( http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advanced/coreClasses/wizard.html )
which gives them the following ability; Shift (Su): At 1st level, you can teleport to a nearby space as a swift action as if using dimension door. This movement does not provoke an attack of opportunity. You must be able to see the space that you are moving into. You cannot take other creatures with you when you use this ability (except for familiars). You can move 5 feet for every two wizard levels you possess (minimum 5 feet). You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Intelligence modifier.
Would this qualify as being able to cast dimension door for the purposes of the feats?
Not technically, because it is a Supernatural rather than a Spell-Like ability. Supernatural abilities are not cast; SLAs are.Bah.. pesky rules.. always getting in the way of dreams.. lol.. Thanks.
Dang! But good find. Keep searching! ;)
Question: say we could access 3.5 material. Wuld there be an easier way to get into these feats?
I have one question regarding the horizon walker. The class seems like a great way to use these new feats. I was wondering about the usefulness of the astral terrain dominance. What exactly is native to the astral plane. I've never gone plane jumping. Are there many astral beings hanging out on the material?
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I'm not sure about a 'great way' to get access but it's certainly one of the earliest and only way for most non-casters. Like with any prestige class you lose out on your primary class abilities...
As for denizens of the astral plane, I honestly don't know off the top of my head.