I need some ideas for a WOW dwarven hunter for PFS. Can you help me?

[Haco]

Hi all,

I know that doesn't exists a class like in the mmorpg like WOW. But i want to try one.

I suppose that a wow's dwarven hunter needs one level of gunslinger (musket master) and then levels in Hunter class.

Can you say me the best options with abilities, feats, traits and other choices. In my next post i writte my first build of this character.

Thanks for all your help!!

[LazarX]

Haco wrote:

Hi all,

I know that doesn't exists a class like in the mmorpg like WOW. But i want to try one.

I suppose that a wow's dwarven hunter needs one level of gunslinger (musket master) and then levels in Hunter class.

Can you say me the best options with abilities, feats, traits and other choices. In my next post i writte my first build of this character.

Thanks for all your help!!

You know even in WOW dwarven hunters can use bows. Why not be a bit flexible in the weapon area?

[Under A Bleeding Sun]

I am unfamiliar with wow, but if your going to use a musket you need at least 3 lol eels of musket master to reload as a free action. By that point may as well take 5 to get dex to damage.

[Jon Otaguro 428]

I feel you lose much of the synergy and power of the hunter class if you emphasize ranged combat.

Inquisitor (sacred huntsmaster) starts with an animal companion (it gets an animal companion and animal focus in exchange for judgement). The inquisitor chassis will make for a better ranged character (bane, divine favor, etc.). You can also take the blackpowder inquisition, which gives you gunsmithing and exotic weapon proficiency (firearms)

[Under A Bleeding Sun]

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

You can also take the blackpowder inquisition, which gives you gunsmithing and exotic weapon proficiency (firearms)

Blackpowder Inquisition is not PFS legal.

[LazarX]

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

I feel you lose much of the synergy and power of the hunter class if you emphasize ranged combat.

I see it very synergistic with ranged combat. After taking precise shot as my free feat and outflank later on, my 8th level hunter can switch hit between ranged and melee quite nicely.

Have your bow made as a +1 adaptive, and your aspects can synergise quite nicely at 8th level.

[Kudaku]

I think a ranged hunter could work well, but I'd probably pick a bow over firearms. Guns are tricky to make work well unless you have a few gunslinger levels - you need at least three levels of Musket Master to make the musket viable.

[Jon Otaguro 428]

Under A Bleeding Sun wrote:

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

You can also take the blackpowder inquisition, which gives you gunsmithing and exotic weapon proficiency (firearms)

Blackpowder Inquisition is not PFS legal.

This is the advice forum not pfs forum and the OP didn't say his character was for pfs

EDIT: ignore stupid comment

[Imbicatus]

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

Under A Bleeding Sun wrote:

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

You can also take the blackpowder inquisition, which gives you gunsmithing and exotic weapon proficiency (firearms)

Blackpowder Inquisition is not PFS legal.

This is the advice forum not pfs forum and the OP didn't say his character was for pfs

You may want to read the thread title.

[Jon Otaguro 428]

LazarX wrote:

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

I feel you lose much of the synergy and power of the hunter class if you emphasize ranged combat.

I see it very synergistic with ranged combat. After taking precise shot as my free feat and outflank later on, my 8th level hunter can switch hit between ranged and melee quite nicely.

Have your bow made as a +1 adaptive, and your aspects can synergise quite nicely at 8th level.

I see a lot of power from hunter coming from pack flanking, precise strike and outflank. None of which helps a ranged attacker

[Jon Otaguro 428]

Imbicatus wrote:

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

Under A Bleeding Sun wrote:

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

You can also take the blackpowder inquisition, which gives you gunsmithing and exotic weapon proficiency (firearms)

Blackpowder Inquisition is not PFS legal.

This is the advice forum not pfs forum and the OP didn't say his character was for pfs

You may want to read the thread title.

my bad

[LazarX]

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

LazarX wrote:

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

I feel you lose much of the synergy and power of the hunter class if you emphasize ranged combat.

I see it very synergistic with ranged combat. After taking precise shot as my free feat and outflank later on, my 8th level hunter can switch hit between ranged and melee quite nicely.

Have your bow made as a +1 adaptive, and your aspects can synergise quite nicely at 8th level.

I see a lot of power from hunter coming from pack flanking, precise strike and outflank. None of which helps a ranged attacker

You forget distracting charge, which gives you a bonus to hit on the enemy your companion charges, and the loyalty feat which gives you a further plus 2 on anyone that threathens your companion. Picking up the outflank feat later lets you switch hit between ranged and melee.

Combine that with gravity bow and vital strike and you've got considerable punch.

[Jon Otaguro 428]

LazarX wrote:

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

LazarX wrote:

Jon Otaguro 428 wrote:

I feel you lose much of the synergy and power of the hunter class if you emphasize ranged combat.

I see it very synergistic with ranged combat. After taking precise shot as my free feat and outflank later on, my 8th level hunter can switch hit between ranged and melee quite nicely.

Have your bow made as a +1 adaptive, and your aspects can synergise quite nicely at 8th level.

I see a lot of power from hunter coming from pack flanking, precise strike and outflank. None of which helps a ranged attacker

You forget distracting charge, which gives you a bonus to hit on the enemy your companion charges, and the loyalty feat which gives you a further plus 2 on anyone that threathens your companion. Picking up the outflank feat later lets you switch hit between ranged and melee.

Combine that with gravity bow and vital strike and you've got considerable punch.

what's the loyalty feat?

[DrDeth]

Is a dwarven hunter one who hunts dwarves or a dwarf who hunts? ;-)

[Haco]

DrDeth wrote:

Is a dwarven hunter one who hunts dwarves or a dwarf who hunts? ;-)

Obviously a Dwarven that hunts...

My build is the following:

BUILD:

Strength 10
Dexterity 16
Constitution 16
Intelligence 10
Wisdom 16 (my prefered class and the class that i play for Animal companion)
Charisma 8

I taken first level as a Gunslinger (Musket master archetype)

And Point Blank Shot Feat

I am thinking take Black Powder Fortune and Glory of the Old traits if no one known a good trait for a druid (i don't want magical knack, i don't interest spellcasting habilities for this build)specially for an Animal Companion.

When i rise to level 2 i will take all the following levels as a druid (Survivor Druid archetype only for the traps and diminished spellcasting)

Do you have any advice for my character? Post it!!

Thanks for your help mates!!

[Umbranus]

The huntmaster cavalier instead of the druid might be a good way, too. You can learn ranger traps via the learned ranger trap. That way you have no spellcasting you do not want and can share your teamwork feat with your pet. You could the challenge as hunter's mark.

With the order of the beast (the one from the ACG because there are two) he would make a quite fitting wow hunter.

But in the end I would build a marksmanship hunter with different classes than a survival hunter or a beastmaster hunter.
For beastmaster there is no alternative to hunter or the inquisitor hunter archetype. For marksmanship I'd go with a more ranged focused class and take the AC through a dip or via feats.

[Haco]

With the huntmaster i only can try bird or dog as a hunting pack.

Beastmaster is 3rd party too, don't legal for pfs, and i don't find survival hunter...

Remember that he is for PFS and Psionics are not legal for play...

Thanks for your help!!

[Umbranus]

Haco wrote:

With the huntmaster i only can try bird or dog as a hunting pack.

Beastmaster is 3rd party too, don't legal for pfs, and i don't find survival hunter...

Remember that he is for PFS and Psionics are not legal for play...

Thanks for your help!!

Bestmaster, survival and marksmanship are the three kinds of hunters you can play in wow. The specializations. They are different enough that they should be build in different ways.

That you are fixed on a kind of animal you want as a companion was either not mentioned before or I missed it. Which is it that you want? Seems its not a dog.

[Haco]

Ok you say specializations from WOW!!

Ok i want a beastmaster or markmanship they were my preferred specialization in WOW, when i played.

But if you can advice me the three i can see and try the more likely for me.

I don't know what animal companion want i don't see them yet, but i accept advices too!!

Thanks for all Umbranus!! Umbranus from Umbria or Umbra (shadow)?

[JuanAdriel]

There was some books that perhaps can help you. They are 3.5, so conversion to pathfinder must not be dificult. warcraft rpg

Perhaps you can find a way to look at them serching for wow rpg google docs. I've own the core plus horde&alliance and the monster manual.

[Haco]

Thas anyone knows if exists a trait with i can have my character level as a druid level for my animal companion? Like Magical Knack with spells but with animal companions.

I see that i need three levels in gunslinger for musket and i suppose that there is no way to be a full gunslinger with animal companion, isn it?

[Secane]

Umbranus wrote:

With the order of the beast (the one from the ACG because there are two) he would make a quite fitting wow hunter.

I don't think Order of the Beast from ACG is legal for PFS play.

Might want to check the additional resources.

[Umbranus]

Haco wrote:

Umbra (shadow)?

That's the one.

And there is not trait like magical knack but a feat called boon companion that does more or less the same for pets but for four levels.

You can have an animal companion as single class gunslinger but it costs 2 feats for a companion, that is 4 levels lower or three feats for a full level one.
Sadly I do not remember the name of the first two feats. The third is boon companion, to get the companion up to char level. Perhaps someone else can help.

Edit: Found them: Nature soul and animal ally.

[Haco]

Ok Boon companion feat is good for me then i can pick one level in druid and don't rise more until level 5!! Is a waste of a feat but good for my build!!

The Gunslinger method with two feats are not quite good because the animal is like a ranger animal companion (-3 druid level) i think that is best Boon Companion.

What is best in your opninon (all people can say) Gunslinger(musket master)/Druid(Survivor) or Gunslinger (Musket master)/Hunter?

Thanks mates!!

[Jon Otaguro 428]

Hunter gets named bullet at level 7 (3rd level ranger spell). That spell is better than anything on the druid list. Whether that makes up for full spell casting is up to you.

I am toying with a mysterious stranger/oracle build. Oracles can get animal companions with the lunar or nature mystery. Elf or half elf can also get favored class bonus to increase the animal companion level, eliminating the need for boon companion.

[Drogos]

I'd go Gunslinger/Hunter simply because precise companion gets you one of the feats you're going to want for a ranged character anyways (Precise Shot) and can wear metal armor without losing spellcasting.

I'd go:

1 Gunslinger (Steel Soul at 1st)
2-3 Hunter (Point Blank Shot at 3rd)
4-7 Gunslinger (Grab Boon Companion at 5th, Rapid Shot 7th)
8+ Hunter

[Haco]

Mmm best i take PBS at level one with hardy and glory of the old and Blackpowder fortune i have good saving throws with steel soul i am like a paladin with Divine Grace!!

Thx for your advice!!