I was just looking at the Bard Class Deck list in preparation of my Deck to shipping (huzzah!) and noticed that there doesn't appear to be a Blessing of Sheyln. While I'm sure there's going to be a few "why isn't card X in the Class Deck?", that kind of makes RotRL Lem sad. Every other class that had a Character which called out a specific Blessing had that Blessing in their deck, from what I could see.
I was wondering if this was a typo for the list, a mistake, or an intentional omission.
Class Deck Lem, who will probably be the Lem most often used with the Bard deck, doesn't have that feat. Neither does Skull and Shackles Lem, which might also see some play with the class deck, particularly during the Season of the Shackles. If you're using the class deck in a home game, you're just shuffling the cards in to your own base set and can use whatever blessings you've got. But yeah, if you go RoTR Lem in Organized Play, it won't make sense to take the Shelyn feat.
Also, perusing the Skull and Shackles blessings, it looked like the design team decided that the one non-combat skill blessings were too weak, and some of the new blessings seem to replace them. For example, the Blessing of Milani adds 2 dice to a non-combat Dexterity or Wisdom check, while the blessing of Sivanah adds 2 dice to an Intelligence or Charisma check. In this way, the blessing of Shelyn and the blessing of Calistra got rolled into the blessing of Milani, which is in the Bard class deck.
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Also, perusing the Skull and Shackles blessings, it looked like the design team decided that the one non-combat skill blessings were too weak, and some of the new blessings seem to replace them.
Actually, we just decided we wanted some interestingly new ones.
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Also, perusing the Skull and Shackles blessings, it looked like the design team decided that the one non-combat skill blessings were too weak, and some of the new blessings seem to replace them. For example, the Blessing of Milani adds 2 dice to a non-combat Dexterity or Wisdom check, while the blessing of Sivanah adds 2 dice to an Intelligence or Charisma check. In this way, the blessing of Shelyn and the blessing of Calistra got rolled into the blessing of Milani, which is in the Bard class deck.
Blessings in Runelords that seemed weak at face value could take on new power once someone got a killer feat for them, e.g. Lem's Shelyn feat (d12 FTW) or Kyra's Sarenrae feats. The others could be pretty weak, though, I admit. At least Iomedae got a new lease on life with Tarlin, and some of the others got better with the class deck characters who let you do cool things any time you add any blessing to a particular skill's check.
I might not ever use RotR Lem in OP as I like S&S Lem much better, but it would be nice if an official errata can be released changing RotR Lem's power to: "When you play Blessings of Shelyn or Milani...."
This could be a simple houserule for home games when someone wants to us RotR Lem in a S&S game, but an official change would be needed for the sake of Organized Play. Or OP RotR Lems would just need to make sure they never take the blessing feat.
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I might not ever use RotR Lem in OP as I like S&S Lem much better, but it would be nice if an official errata can be released changing RotR Lem's power to: "When you play Blessings of Shelyn or Milani...."
This could be a simple houserule for home games when someone wants to us RotR Lem in a S&S game, but an official change would be needed for the sake of Organized Play. Or OP RotR Lems would just need to make sure they never take the blessing feat.
Honestly, as an organizer, if you are going to choose RotR Lem instead of CD Lem or S&S Lem for use in organized play then you take his deficits as well ... a potential useless power. I don't think this one needs any change. It's part of the problem of using the previous version of Lem. So I would agree with your last sentence that OP RotR Lem players need to make sure they don't take the blessing feat.
But in reference to your houserule, if you are going to be reporting results to PFS, you'd need to follow the above format and not houserule the RotR version. If you are just playing a home session, no problem.
I might not ever use RotR Lem in OP as I like S&S Lem much better, but it would be nice if an official errata can be released changing RotR Lem's power to: "When you play Blessings of Shelyn or Milani...."
This could be a simple houserule for home games when someone wants to us RotR Lem in a S&S game, but an official change would be needed for the sake of Organized Play. Or OP RotR Lems would just need to make sure they never take the blessing feat.
I would lean towards leaving it as is. RotR is legal for OP & S&S but not necessarily optimal. When the next season of OP starts and we are using the WotR set, S&S Lem will have several feats that are probably going to be useless as well (the Sea Singer feats for Aquatic enemies and Plunder rolls, for example.)
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I would lean towards leaving it as is. RotR is legal for OP & S&S but not necessarily optimal. When the next season of OP starts and we are using the WotR set, S&S Lem will have several feats that are probably going to be useless as well (the Sea Singer feats for Aquatic enemies and Plunder rolls, for example.)
I'd think a lot of S&S characters will have useless feats when it comes to WotR. You want to pick a previous set character, take them "as is".
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I would lean towards leaving it as is. RotR is legal for OP & S&S but not necessarily optimal. When the next season of OP starts and we are using the WotR set, S&S Lem will have several feats that are probably going to be useless as well (the Sea Singer feats for Aquatic enemies and Plunder rolls, for example.)I'd think a lot of S&S characters will have useless feats when it comes to WotR. You want to pick a previous set character, take them "as is".
Agreed... My general advice for OP is you are probably going to have an easier time picking one of the characters from the deck. They are designed to be less tied to a specific base set and to work with the specific cards included in the class deck. Of course during Season 0, the 3 legal characters from S&S (+ Jirelle) will probably work well since the banes you're encountering are from the same set. And some characters from RotR are incredibly general so they should work fairly well with any set as well (Valeros for example). But, yeah, there's no guarantee that every character will work well with every set or in OP. Just that they will work.
But in reference to your houserule, if you are going to be reporting results to PFS, you'd need to follow the above format and not houserule the RotR version. If you are just playing a home session, no problem.
Oh no, when I talked about making it a houserule for home games, I was specifically talking about playing him in the base S&S Adventure Path, far, far away from official PFS scenarios. Sorry if that was unclear.
Interestingly, S&S Lem is the only S&S character to have a power that adds d12 instead of the normal die.