Figure selection in your releases


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Silver Crusade

IMO Pazio is being far too Politically correct in the number of figures
dispersed between male and female. Your customers are at lest 80/20 male but your figure selection is 50 50 male female. You need more male fighters and barbarians. You have several poses for Armai but no male barbarians. It is not that I dislike any of female figs I like them all but I want figs that I can use for my PC's that is the reason I buy Minis.

How many sets of Iconic's are you releasing next year? Please release Iconic's for all of your class iconic's not just the core iconic's.

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Lou Diamond wrote:

IMO Pazio is being far too Politically correct in the number of figures

dispersed between male and female. Your customers are at lest 80/20 male but your figure selection is 50 50 male female. You need more male fighters and barbarians. You have several poses for Armai but no male barbarians. It is not that I dislike any of female figs I like them all but I want figs that I can use for my PC's that is the reason I buy Minis.

How many sets of Iconic's are you releasing next year? Please release Iconic's for all of your class iconic's not just the core iconic's.

From January on, thery're releasing a monthly pack of 5 iconics +1 other (animal companion, familiar, mount etc). This will cover all the iconics pretty quickly.

Grand Lodge

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

A 50/50 split between male/female miniatures is the best ratio. Your 80/20 ratio assumes all male players play male PCs and all female players play female PCs, which is not remotely the case. Additionally, GMs need a good mix of males and females because NPCs come in both male and female varieties.

The hobby might mostly be a sausage-fest, but there's no reason for the minis to be that way too.

-Skeld


I've never had any issue with the male / female ratio of miniatures - you need both male and female miniatures for both PC's and NPC's.

The Iconic packs should fix your needs however, since you not only know what mini's you'll get, but these are both high quality and representative of many iconic classes.


Hey, look! Déjà vu!


For me, the ratio is not a problem at all. They have given us some great PPMs. I just love PPM of any kind and would love several figures of the same class each as different genders and races. But I get that the number of PPMs that it would take to cover even the core classes and races would be significant. So I accept what they offer and suggest specific figures I would like to see, and hope they will make the cut at some point.


If we're going by statistics, players on the whole don't buy the randomized packs at all. Thus the distribution doesn't affect them as they are buying singles online or from their gamestore. The larger packs are for DMs, collectors, and proxiers. All of these people tend to want 50-50 gender ratios because their minis are supposed to represent a whole world.

If you are a player that purchases minis through randomized boosters you are statistically insignificant and shouldn't be catered to at all using your own line of reasoning.

Silver Crusade

Alex, the Pazio minis are only sold in randomized packs unless your game store opens packs and sells singles. You can buy mail order from Pazio
and pay a premium price and S&H and have to wait for your mini's and still not get the sculpts you want because of of the ratios pazio is using in determining what figures are produced. You can buy unpainted figs from other companies but I like prepainted figs as I can't paint.

Alex I most Likely have bought more minis through out the years than you as I have been gaming longer than most people 35+ years so I am not statistically insignificant. I also buy lots of unpainted minis and have them painted.


Lou Diamond wrote:
Alex I most Likely have bought more minis through out the years than you as I have been gaming longer than most people 35+ years so I am not statistically insignificant.

I bet you would be shocked how many 35+ year vets there are. In my local group there are seven of us that are at 35+ years in RPGs. ;-)


Unless you are a GM your market is still statistically insignificant. AT least it is by using your same line of logic that would lead to fewer female figs. It's fairly easy to come up with a counter example for you of a woman playing a ton of different characters and being bummed if their aren't that many minis for representing characters she wants to play. If you're going by some statistics to say her feelings don't matter, then your feelings don't matter either. In both cases the sets are primarily catering to retailers and people (GMs mostly) who by full cases. Your branch of the customer base is going to be buying singles as you said from retailers that open packs. To such people the ratios are essentially invisible because you're only receiving the mini you want. Market wise if you buy 3 male minis out of 5 or 3 male minis out of 12 it doesn't matter and statistically the number of minis a non-GM buys is static compared to the number available. There is some wobble but it's ultimately small enough that it would cost more to cater to those few players that buy a lot of minis than you would make back in sales.

This is all leaving aside the fact that your quoted 80/20 split it actually not backed up by any evidence. If it is true that's a bad thing that should be fixed. Why would you want a hobby to be less appealing to women? I for one like women in general and don't really see any reason to not want them around.

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