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ebola outbreak in italy

Is it now a matter of time befor isis sends 'suicide bombers' into africa to get infected by ebola and spread it world wide?

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Right now seems just like a case of malaria. Extra care is taken as the patient comes from a very specific area in which the ebola virus is active, though the maximum incubation period (21 days) is already expired.

Outbreak sounds like a little exaggeration (pardon the pun).

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golem101 wrote:

Right now seems just like a case of malaria. Extra care is taken as the patient comes from a very specific area in which the ebola virus is active, though the maximum incubation period (21 days) is already expired.

Outbreak sounds like a little exaggeration (pardon the pun).

Law of pebbles: if one hits you out of a hundred doesnt mean there is just one.


malaria is NOT fun.


I heard they're going to weaponize parvo and give it to all the dingoes for being unclean dogs. You get a fruity drink with an umbrella in it in paradise for every dingo you wipe out.


yellowdingo wrote:

ebola outbreak in italy

Is it now a matter of time befor isis sends 'suicide bombers' into africa to get infected by ebola and spread it world wide?

Don't be giving them any ideas now, Yellodingo...


Malaria is treatable.

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yellowdingo wrote:
golem101 wrote:

Right now seems just like a case of malaria. Extra care is taken as the patient comes from a very specific area in which the ebola virus is active, though the maximum incubation period (21 days) is already expired.

Outbreak sounds like a little exaggeration (pardon the pun).

Law of pebbles: if one hits you out of a hundred doesnt mean there is just one.

Sounds nice, but doesn't change the facts: it's not a pebble, cespite the wishful thinking.


yellowdingo wrote:

ebola outbreak in italy

Is it now a matter of time before ISIS sends 'suicide bombers' into Africa to get infected by ebola and spread it world wide?

Bio terrorism is very very very very complicated to do, and it's not that easy to contaminate someone with the virus after. It's much easier to crash a plane on a tower...


Its a horrible bioweapon. It doesn't spread by air, its spread is ameliorated pretty heavily by standard hygene protocols, and its treated fatality rate for westerners is.. meh.


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Can you get ebola from eating dingo?

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Sissyl wrote:
Malaria is treatable.

Sounds a lot like Ebola then, a horrible illness which is treatable.

We flew a British nurse with Ebola back to the UK and treated him in a major London hospital. He's fine now.


Ebola may not be such a big problem in western countries, but in Africa where much of the population lives in squalor, has no access to top of the line health care and has compromised immune systems due to AIDS, the ebola virus may well be a humanitarian disaster of epic proportion.


It's already gone airborne from blood in the mucus. Top german virologist says that 5 million will die. The U.S. won't help africa because they help the chinese too much.


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Puzzler Waldorf wrote:
It's already gone airborne from blood in the mucus. Top german virologist says that 5 million will die. The U.S. won't help africa because they help the chinese too much.

I see another person who considers Silent Hill to be a documentary.

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Puzzler Waldorf wrote:
It's already gone airborne from blood in the mucus. Top german virologist says that 5 million will die. The U.S. won't help africa because they help the chinese too much.

China sent troops to Africa as united nations personel to fight terrorists. China unifies africa into a single communist state to fight ebola and terrorism...discovers ebola was being spread by American missionaries as part of their plan to bring about the 'end of days'. Poop hits global political fan.

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Pink Dragon wrote:
Ebola may not be such a big problem in western countries, but in Africa where much of the population lives in squalor, has no access to top of the line health care and has compromised immune systems due to AIDS, the ebola virus may well be a humanitarian disaster of epic proportion.

Sounds a lot like malaria...


Ebola has a fair way to go before it reaches the Great Killer's numbers (tuberculosis). Cholera and malaria are also pretty massive. Tuberculosis is sort of understandable given the difficulty of treating it, but cholera is a sodding shame. All you need to handle it is clean water, some salt and some sugar.


GeraintElberion wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
Malaria is treatable.

Sounds a lot like Ebola then, a horrible illness which is treatable.

We flew a British nurse with Ebola back to the UK and treated him in a major London hospital. He's fine now.

Malaria is treatable with a pill. I think there's a 72 hour and you're dead version, but even that responds to pills. Its also safe to treat in the US because it requires the mosquito to transmit (and even certain species of moqsuito at that- Even the daytime mosquitos in areas where its prevelant don't often carry it) When I got back from africa, someone tossed my malaria medication on accident and I got sick as a dog until we got some more. Drove to the doctors office, sat in the waiting room shaking until he agreed to write me a script, went to the pharmacy and went home.

Ebola is treatable with mass hydration therapy, and more experimentally with some white blood cells they've exposed to ebola: but neither is a sure thing yet.

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To be fair the problem with Ebola isn't how nasty it is now but how nasty it could become, given that viruses can mutate at a crazy rate. The concern is the bigger the human epidemic the more likely that the virus will mutate to something that can be more easily transmitted between humans.


ulgulanoth wrote:
To be fair the problem with Ebola isn't how nasty it is now but how nasty it could become, given that viruses can mutate at a crazy rate. The concern is the bigger the human epidemic the more likely that the virus will mutate to something that can be more easily transmitted between humans.

What mutation are you worried about that could cause it to become more virulent? Its like worrying about a mutation on rats that would give them wings to fly.

Its far, far, FAR more likely that something that already spreads easily from person to person like the flu could become more deadly (It has happened before. It will happen again

)

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

What mutation are you worried about that could cause it to become more virulent? Its like worrying about a mutation on rats that would give them wings to fly.

Its far, far, FAR more likely that something that already spreads easily from person to person like the flu could become more deadly (It has happened before. It will happen again

)

The was at least one case where Ebola was transmitted airborne, it was between monkeys but nothing says it couldn't mutate in a way to do the same for humans. Now flu and other illness are worth worrying about more, sure.


Realistically a bad flu is more of a threat to western nations than ebola


yellowdingo wrote:


China unifies africa into a single communist state to fight ebola and terrorism...

Yeah that's not difficult at all. I mean it's not like it's a continent of a billion people with thousands of distinct identities.

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Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Can you get ebola from eating dingo?

Five ebola varieties. Four kill humans, the fifth kills monkeys.

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usa preparing to declare africa a territory

The plan to claim African resources before china can is in the works...

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Bill McGrath wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:


China unifies africa into a single communist state to fight ebola and terrorism...
Yeah that's not difficult at all. I mean it's not like it's a continent of a billion people with thousands of distinct identities.

If they all die from ebola, the foreign occupier takes all.


yellowdingo wrote:
Bill McGrath wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
China unifies africa into a single communist state to fight ebola and terrorism...
Yeah that's not difficult at all. I mean it's not like it's a continent of a billion people with thousands of distinct identities.
If they all die from ebola, the foreign occupier takes all.

If you know a little bit about Africa you should underline that to unify the African continent into a unique country you'll need at least a few centuries. Now, even if you consider Africans as nothing but brainless starving Blacks, you should understand that even ebola is not enough to kill them all. Africa is over a billion people, the virus would (indirectly) destroy occidental economies long before killing all Africans. Maybe it's why the US are sending troops...


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Interesting article Troops in Africa.


yellowdingo wrote:
Bill McGrath wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:


China unifies africa into a single communist state to fight ebola and terrorism...
Yeah that's not difficult at all. I mean it's not like it's a continent of a billion people with thousands of distinct identities.
If they all die from ebola, the foreign occupier takes all.

If they all die from ebola, there's not much left to unify into a single communist state, is there?

One which would be bigger than any country or empire in history, too.

This such an absurdly racist scenario. You realise Africans aren't all starving in mud huts, right?

Also wait if they all die from ebola a) why would you unify them into a state to fight ebola and b) who's left to be the terrorist threat to fight?


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@Bill McGrath:

I think you are somewhat confused thinking that all of YD's posts are

A: sensible
B: related or
C: realistic

Mostly they are food for thought. Like dingoes. :)


I would say that eating mangoes cures ebola.
But string theory invalidates that.


It seems from a quick look that mass hydration therapy has people drinking water with a mix of salt and glucose.

How would this help with Ebola (which I thought weakens blood vessels which is what causes bleeding when they rupture. It also decreases the clotting, which combined means bleeding with no way to stop, if I understand it right).

I can understand diarrhea and maybe Cholera some...but not exactly Ebola with this type of treatment.

Also, would Gatorade be something that would work with mass hydration therapy?


Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

@Bill McGrath:

I think you are somewhat confused thinking that all of YD's posts are

A: sensible
B: related or
C: realistic

Mostly they are food for thought. Like dingoes. :)

Yeah, I'm familiar with YD idiosyncratic posting style. I've been writing about postcolonialism recently and I guess that specific stuff was just getting to me!

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Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

@Bill McGrath:

I think you are somewhat confused thinking that all of YD's posts are

A: sensible
B: related or
C: realistic

Mostly they are food for thought. Like dingoes. :)

Dont spoil it for him.

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Bill McGrath wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Bill McGrath wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:


China unifies africa into a single communist state to fight ebola and terrorism...
Yeah that's not difficult at all. I mean it's not like it's a continent of a billion people with thousands of distinct identities.
If they all die from ebola, the foreign occupier takes all.

If they all die from ebola, there's not much left to unify into a single communist state, is there?

One which would be bigger than any country or empire in history, too.

This such an absurdly racist scenario. You realise Africans aren't all starving in mud huts, right?

Also wait if they all die from ebola a) why would you unify them into a state to fight ebola and b) who's left to be the terrorist threat to fight?

Of course they are not all living in mud huts. Thats 50%. The others are cowering in urban slums and shanty towns. Both ways of life will end, the poorest and uneducated first. The panic and fear will trigger mass migration spreading ebola quickly. Ethnic cleansing will be the line that is used. Minority group a will be slaughtered by minority group b for 'spreading ebola'. The usa will deploy troops to hold africa together. Epic fail in the making. Remember what happened in outbreak? Apply that to us occupation of Africa.

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missing ebola health workers slaughtered by villagers

And that is why this will involve millitary occupation of infected villages. The war on ebola is lost. Villages not interested in troops and doctors will say no we dont have ebola. Others will vanish spreading ebola.

All that is left is to retrieve a million African girls from villages across africa and assume africa will die.


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I don't really have anything to add, I just wanted to voice my appreciation for Comrade Dingo's powerful and, er, singular vision, both here and in other threads current on the OTD without actually favoriting one of his posts, that way the feds won't be able to prove anything.

Din-go! Din-go! Din-go!

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Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

I don't really have anything to add, I just wanted to voice my appreciation for Comrade Dingo's powerful and, er, singular vision, both here and in other threads current on the OTD without actually favoriting one of his posts, that way the feds won't be able to prove anything.

Din-go! Din-go! Din-go!

Like the way I suck the joy from your future worldview?

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three day lockdown as sierra Leone fights ebola


yellowdingo wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

I don't really have anything to add, I just wanted to voice my appreciation for Comrade Dingo's powerful and, er, singular vision, both here and in other threads current on the OTD without actually favoriting one of his posts, that way the feds won't be able to prove anything.

Din-go! Din-go! Din-go!

Like the way I suck the joy from your future worldview?

Every one of your posts is a joy.


Bill McGrath wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:


China unifies africa into a single communist state to fight ebola and terrorism...
Yeah that's not difficult at all. I mean it's not like it's a continent of a billion people with thousands of distinct identities.

Is that a serious comment about China or a sarcastic comment about Africa?

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BigDTBone wrote:
Bill McGrath wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:


China unifies africa into a single communist state to fight ebola and terrorism...
Yeah that's not difficult at all. I mean it's not like it's a continent of a billion people with thousands of distinct identities.
Is that a serious comment about China or a sarcastic comment about Africa?

More a criticism of the only reason the usa will go to Africa.

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projections expect 1.4 million infected by January. Plan: confine families to their own homes to die in an orderly fasion.


yellowdingo wrote:
projections expect 1.4 million infected by January. Plan: confine families to their own homes to die in an orderly fasion.

Just for the record and those who don't read the link: That's 1.4 million if we don't increase the effort against it, which is already happening.

It's serious. Really, really nasty, but still containable. If we take the measures that we should have been taking for 6 months now.


I think they said they need an immediate gigantic response now and the more there is a delay, the more certain the problems will be.

I wonder what the projections show after January?

Will it be in Europe and the US at that point?

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GreyWolfLord wrote:

I think they said they need an immediate gigantic response now and the more there is a delay, the more certain the problems will be.

I wonder what the projections show after January?

Will it be in Europe and the US at that point?

If the few who govern the many are evolutionist or religious fundamentalist nutbags they might be going with folks who dont die take it all thinking. Are you likely to survive ebola?


Heh. It will be horrible. The people who are careful about who they cuddle with are going to not die, as usual. It is not yet airborne, so get those hand desinfectants ready.


BigDTBone wrote:
Bill McGrath wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:


China unifies africa into a single communist state to fight ebola and terrorism...
Yeah that's not difficult at all. I mean it's not like it's a continent of a billion people with thousands of distinct identities.
Is that a serious comment about China or a sarcastic comment about Africa?

Sarcastic.

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