1998 Godzilla


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Okay, I didn't really care for the movie, but I still like the monster in it.
How would you personally stat this monster and what CR you think is appropriate for it. I'll give my interpretation of it's stats later, but I just wanted to leave this thread here.


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Start with the Tarrasque's, then remove all it's special abilities and give it regeneration(missiles). Add a fire damage breath weapon. :)

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his stats heh? Just make him a giant t-rex stats...I mean after all, this is what the japanese did with Zilla vs godzilla.


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Azten wrote:
Add a fire damage breath weapon. :)

The 1998 Godzilla may not of had a breath weapon. The one scene I can remember where it may involves him roaring and blowing cars around. Its very possible that the gas tanks on the vehicles ruptured and ignited. Its not as clear what happened in that scene.

You would figure if he really did have a breath weapon, we would of seen it more often than just that once.


Maybe a breath weapon that does sonic damage? It would stay more inline with what we saw in the movie and not many things have resist sonic


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You mean like how the new godzilla used his atomic breath twice and only after getting his face kicked in? Oh yeah, I went there.


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The cartoon version of the 98 Godzilla (much better than the movie) had a fire breath weapon. He used it a lot (like 90's Japanese Godzilla). The movie one had a hurricane wind weapon.

I concur that you would start with the Tarrasque, add swim and burrow, increase his speed to 50, take away carapace, and replace the immunities/DR/SR with the kaiju special defenses (which won't be much different). I would give him the fire breath weapon, as I think it is easier to model then the hurricane one.


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Buri wrote:
You mean like how the new godzilla used his atomic breath twice and only after getting his face kicked in? Oh yeah, I went there.

I could forgive that, and all the c***-teasing "oh look, monster fight is starting, let's cut away to the Stupid Human Tricks scenes" and other nonsense.

But a lot of that is just because the '98 movie had been so, SO bad.


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Admittedly not a huge Godzilla fan, but I actually liked the '98 movie.


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It was entertaining. It just wasn't godzilla.


I hated it, less because of godzilla and more because of some of the atrocious acting and writing of the stupid human drama.

I mean, we could also talk about Hollywood's desperate need to have tons of pointless human drama in a movie that's supposed to be about monsters, but its ubiquity has broken me and I just don't even argue it anymore. I have given up that battle, and all I ask is that it not be completely retarded.


Buri wrote:
It was entertaining. It just wasn't [the traditional] godzilla [that I had been enjoyed before].

^ This, and,

Ivan Rûski wrote:
I actually liked the '98 movie.

^ this.

I dunno, I agree with Brorick: that was a lot of fish.

(The main actress was a bit weird, to me, though.)


So I figure having a spinosaurus with the giant, advanced, and savage simple templates with 1 rank of mythic to grant it a breath weapon is the best way to go. Its overall CR would be 14 - 15. This build pretty much does the exact same thing as Zilla did in the movie.


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It will be important that the person that fights Godzilla has an at-will "Create Food and Water" so he can form a gigantic pile of fish to act as bait. When he's done...

"That's a lot of fish!"


raptor + eanough giant template applications to make him colossal throw on 20 more HD. Change to magical beast. add a breath weapon. The end.


Westphalian_Musketeer wrote:
"That's a lot of fish!"

Well, it was a lot of fish. :)

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Paizo already statted Godzilla btw.


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+1 to Tactic's This-ings of various Thats.

ElementalXX wrote:
Paizo already statted Godzilla btw.

Awesome. Something else I can Magic Jar/Mind Switch with to trample others with relative impunity... :)


ElementalXX wrote:
Paizo already statted Godzilla btw.

I was just going for the 1998 film version, which is plenty weaker than the original.


I didn't mind the 98 Godzilla film. It's actually the best one I've seen, and enjoyed it somewhat.

Then again, I really dislike the Godzilla movies in general...they seem campy and not something I really like in style. I suppose I'm just not the key audience that Godzilla movies target (and that includes the most recent 2014 one as well...I mean...drop one or two daizy cutters on those beasts...that should do an impact at least as strong as Godzilla would do in the 2014 one...should be more than enough to wipe it out...And how the heck do you lose track of something that big...anyways...yeah).

Godzilla movies really aren't the style of movie I like.


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I was just going for the 1998 film version, which is plenty weaker than the original.

Ah, well, you've already have a problem then. See, Roland Emmerich's idiotic and pathetic excuse for a monster is NOT Godzilla. His monster is called "Zilla" (seriously, it's LEGALLY CALLED that now). It also goes by the titles: "Iguanasaurus" and "massive waste of Hollywood's time and money to produce a substandard piece of crap".

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I didn't mind the 98 Godzilla film. It's actually the best one I've seen, and enjoyed it somewhat.

Dude, you see that? (points to your low standards which is weeping tears). That's your low standards. Man it looks sad. Might wanna raise them a bit higher.


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Ah, well, you've already have a problem then. See, Roland Emmerich's idiotic and pathetic excuse for a monster is NOT Godzilla. His monster is called "Zilla" (seriously, it's LEGALLY CALLED that now). It also goes by the titles: "Iguanasaurus" and "massive waste of Hollywood's time and money to produce a substandard piece of crap"

I wanted to stat this version because it's much easier, which I already pinned it at about CR 14.


Sauce987654321 wrote:
Berselius wrote:


Ah, well, you've already have a problem then. See, Roland Emmerich's idiotic and pathetic excuse for a monster is NOT Godzilla. His monster is called "Zilla" (seriously, it's LEGALLY CALLED that now). It also goes by the titles: "Iguanasaurus" and "massive waste of Hollywood's time and money to produce a substandard piece of crap"
I wanted to stat this version because it's much easier, which I already pinned it at about CR 14.

I agree I would have gone around CR 15 myself.

For comparison a Brachiosaurus is Gargantuan and CR 10 with 18 HD. A T-Rex is CR 9, huge and 18HD too.

A Collossal T-Rex would be CR 11 after applying the Giant Template twice. If we add a swim speed and a breath weapon it might get to 12 and then you'd need to add a few HD and some more Natural Armor to get it to 14.

Note this will result in a simple melee brute, which an intelligent party of that lvl should overcome easy due to much higher versatility


I3igAl wrote:
Sauce987654321 wrote:
Berselius wrote:


Ah, well, you've already have a problem then. See, Roland Emmerich's idiotic and pathetic excuse for a monster is NOT Godzilla. His monster is called "Zilla" (seriously, it's LEGALLY CALLED that now). It also goes by the titles: "Iguanasaurus" and "massive waste of Hollywood's time and money to produce a substandard piece of crap"
I wanted to stat this version because it's much easier, which I already pinned it at about CR 14.

I agree I would have gone around CR 15 myself.

For comparison a Brachiosaurus is Gargantuan and CR 10 with 18 HD. A T-Rex is CR 9, huge and 18HD too.

A Collossal T-Rex would be CR 11 after applying the Giant Template twice. If we add a swim speed and a breath weapon it might get to 12 and then you'd need to add a few HD and some more Natural Armor to get it to 14.

Note this will result in a simple melee brute, which an intelligent party of that lvl should overcome easy due to much higher versatility

I went with spinosaurus with the giant, advanced, and savage template.

The savage template was so it could have DR and energy resistances to ignore most mundane attacks, and so that it's melee attacks are more dangerous.

The giant template was for obvious reasons.

The advanced template was just for good measure.

That all comes to CR14 in order to function just like zilla did in the movie.

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It needs a energy attack or breath weapon, 1998 version had green fire thing attack, i feel a drake or a dragon would make a better base


ElementalXX wrote:
It needs a energy attack or breath weapon, 1998 version had green fire thing attack, i feel a drake or a dragon would make a better base

I could throw on an additional mythic rank to grant it an ability from the universal monster rules (breath weapon). Other than that, I feel this build is pretty spot on. Making him a dragon or drake I feel is pretty inappropriate.


The 1998 one didn't have an energy breath weapon; the closest I'd give it some sort of tornado-force wind effect as its breath weapon.

(As what it did in the movie was roar at some burning cars with enough force to send the closest ones flying, creating the illusion of fire breath. Was always baffled that the director even bothered to do that; I guess it was meant as a half-assed homage.)

But yeah, I'd just advance a tyrannosaur to Colossal and that would about do it. Zilla was a giant animal, but it was no kaiju.

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Zhangar wrote:

The 1998 one didn't have an energy breath weapon; the closest I'd give it some sort of tornado-force wind effect as its breath weapon.

(As what it did in the movie was roar at some burning cars with enough force to send the closest ones flying, creating the illusion of fire breath. Was always baffled that the director even bothered to do that; I guess it was meant as a half-assed homage.)

But yeah, I'd just advance a tyrannosaur to Colossal and that would about do it. Zilla was a giant animal, but it was no kaiju.

I am not really sure in the movie was present but the animated tv version had a breath weapon, not sure if its canon


The animated Zilla was the child of the one in the 98 movie, it was a further mutation. There were quite a few badass kaiju in that cartoon. Which I mostly remember from the gameboy color game.

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