Thoughts on the Ancestral Ally boon


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Sczarni 5/5

I recently had a player that wanted to use this boon on his half-Orc Cavalier character as his mount. According to the boon he could select a bear. This became problematic as a bear animal companion only gets to size medium and without a feat or some other resource expenditure makes it to small for him to ride. We could not think of any other way to make this a working option for his character and I was wondering if anyone else had some ideas or could point out something we might be missing.

Sovereign Court 5/5 5/5

Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

For PFS, unfortunately, short of taking the 'Undersized Mount' feat (which allows you to ride mounts of your size category), there really isn't a way for a half-orc cavalier to have a bear as his bonded mount.

3/5

Yeah, I got this boon, too, and I'm not sure what Paizo's intention was here.

5/5 5/55/55/5

Even then PFS mount class ability restrictions have a size limit on the classes that you can take it that doesn't take the feat into account.

Paizo Employee 5/5 Developer

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This has been brought to my attention, and I'm revising the text of future versions of the boon that go to conventions. I'll post here again once that text is finalized, and those with the original version of the boon can use the revised text or the boon's text as they see fit (I believe the revised text is more beneficial, but I'll leave it out there as an option).

The intention is not to add mounts only (a relic of borrowing some of the language from the Mounted Tradition boon from last year). Rather the aim was to open up additional options for characters with any animal companion class feature (nature bond, hunter's bond, mount, divine bond, etc.) and strengthen an otherwise undervalued option for those that already have access to that creature.

Sczarni 5/5

Thanks John, I appreciate the quick response. I will pass this on to the player.


I also appreciate that the boon is being reworded...am waiting anxiously for the new wording.

Sovereign Court

I just realized that this plus that one boon will let you create an Owlbear-riding Cavalier at level 1. I do hope that issue with Undersized Mount not functioning gets resolved.

Silver Crusade 3/5

I'm also eagerly waiting for a revision, as as is, the two classes it allows to apply the boon to don't interest me that much (I already have one paladin on level 12 with a horse mount).

Dark Archive Venture-Agent, Washington—Redmond

I'm just all giddy about a gnome with a Giant Weasel animal companion ^_^


not to be pushy....but is there a timeline as to when the rewrite will be complete...am waiting to build my character

Lantern Lodge

Any update on this boon? Many of our local players got this boon at the miniconvention we held a few weeks ago and I'd like to be able to tell them that this boon is usable outside a few narrow combinations.

Lantern Lodge 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, South Dakota—Rapid City aka Black Powder Chocobo

Don't worry Earl; as soon as I hear anything I'm going to share it!

Scarab Sages 2/5

so, as currently written the only class that can use this boon is the paladin, as none of the options i can find are sutible for a level 1 cavalier, and while I am stoked for a giant weasel riding gnome, Im pissed that I have to either a)gm this character to 4, or b)outright kill my mount on my last game as level 3 to gain access to the giant weasel.


You can dismiss the animal.

My nature oracle started out with a horse name Thucydides looking for the smartest Axe beak historian Heroditus through the Tian lands.


heck as written you can supposedly pick a small bird as your mount as a medium sized human

Grand Lodge 4/5

Pathfinder Card Game, Companion, Pawns Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
John Compton wrote:

This has been brought to my attention, and I'm revising the text of future versions of the boon that go to conventions. I'll post here again once that text is finalized, and those with the original version of the boon can use the revised text or the boon's text as they see fit (I believe the revised text is more beneficial, but I'll leave it out there as an option).

The intention is not to add mounts only (a relic of borrowing some of the language from the Mounted Tradition boon from last year). Rather the aim was to open up additional options for characters with any animal companion class feature (nature bond, hunter's bond, mount, divine bond, etc.) and strengthen an otherwise undervalued option for those that already have access to that creature.

Any ETA on when this boon will be revised/reworded?

I have a new character that I am considering adding this to and I want to make sure of the benefits before I do so.


bump

Scarab Sages 2/5

So will the rewritten version of this boon work for Rangers and Druids as well, not just classes with the Divine Bond or Mount class feature?

My Human Ranger with his trusty horse companion would be very interested in spending 5 Prestige Points on this.

Sovereign Court

I understand that is the intention.


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so what is the process for getting these changes approved? is it done annually or something? does it require all of the PFS masters to travel to one location for a confab? 2/3 majority vote to get approval?


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Mr Compton...has there been an update to this boon?


did the results of the changes to this boon get posted somewhere else?

Grand Lodge 5/5 Global Organized Play Coordinator

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New boons are created annually. If this boon is updated and used in the future, it won't be until at least the start of Season 7.

Sovereign Court

Is it that darn hard to turn John Compton's post above into an errata for this boon? I mean, for 30 seconds (or less) of work and you have this problem resolved.

I'll take Things That Aren't That Damn Complicated for $500, Drendle.

Scarab Sages 2/5 5/5

Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

Now that season 7 is in session, has this boon been revised yet?

Scarab Sages 2/5 5/5

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Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

Casting "Raise dead" a second time...has there been an updated text release for this boon? I have a copy and I'd like to make use of it as well.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Pathfinder Card Game, Companion, Pawns Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Anything on the re-worded, re-worked boon?

Venture-Agent, Utah—Provo aka Chess Pwn

Wow, this seems to have fallen through the cracks. Here we are at the door to season 9 and this was maybe coming out season 7.


and still no clarification

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