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Iron Gods is NOT meant to be played by mythic characters—the storyline isn't designed for it from a flavor standpoint or a mechanical standpoint. What allows a character to achieve mythic ascension is entirely and completely left to the GM.
If you want to do it, go for it—but you'll either need to do some significant adjustments to the adventure path or be comfortable running a game where the PCs are significantly less challenged than you may be used to.
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Question:
Didn't Divinity's AI took the name Unity after the crash?I ask this because we have captain Yurian Valako calling the AI by the name Unity in his last report, also the same thing happens with the gearsman in the fires of creation.
It gets a little confusing, but to clear it up...
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Thank you James.
Another question, how much scrap worth do the PCs need to gather in order to be summoned to fight in the arena? (i can't seem to find it in the book)
Bottom of page 14. Scrap-Worth 8 results in the invitation.
Iron Gods is NOT meant to be played by mythic characters—the storyline isn't designed for it from a flavor standpoint or a mechanical standpoint. What allows a character to achieve mythic ascension is entirely and completely left to the GM.
If you want to do it, go for it—but you'll either need to do some significant adjustments to the adventure path or be comfortable running a game where the PCs are significantly less challenged than you may be used to.
Tier 1 isn't much of a problem at that point... Maybe being tier 2, 3 or 4 at the end of the AP.
Question about Soothe:where did Smilers get this stuff?
It requires both medical lab and Craft feat,and i assume either working generator or at least two batteries.
Do they have no means of manufacturing it?
In this case,is 14 doses all their available stock?
Is there a way to synthesize it with alchemy and/or Brew Potion?
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Question about Soothe:where did Smilers get this stuff?
It requires both medical lab and Craft feat,and i assume either working generator or at least two batteries.
Do they have no means of manufacturing it?
In this case,is 14 doses all their available stock?
Is there a way to synthesize it with alchemy and/or Brew Potion?
Soothe, as a pharmaceutical, can be crafted with the appropriate feat. The Smilers currently have a relatively limited supply of the stuff though, and should soon need to seek more of it.
I know there are no actual bonuses for skinning the mutant manticore and wearing its hide, but what would be a cool, minor flavor bonus for my PCs that could be added to the game without messing with mechanics? Also, any flavor repercussions, considering the manticore is mutant and irradiated.
Every day, save vs. Low radiation. ;p
I remember pondering that when i was reading fires of creation as well.
How do you use disable device to open closed doors when there is no power?
as an untrained disable device (STR) check
What?
I use a big hammer, but then people call the cops, especially if i'm the the one cutting the power;D
But seriously, I would imagine a space ship might have manual over rides on the doors, especially ones along an escape route, in case the worst happened
But seriously, I would imagine a space ship might have manual over rides on the doors, especially ones along an escape route, in case the worst happened
Yes there are, it's usually a STR check DC 25 to open it manually (not break DC which is a little higher).
But i asked about the use of disable device in order to open it, especially when you are doing it without an e-pick (i can assume that the e-pick supplies enough energy in order for the door to open).| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
thats what i'm talking about, a small switch hidden somewhere on the door or next to it that might release the pressure from the hydraulics or whatever they have, you know so they open easily in case the power is out and a quick escape is needed:)
it could even be a small fail safe on the frame of the door, something in a corner thats easily (for the original crew not the PCs) flipped to allow a quick evacuation:)
i guess the point i was making is with hydraulics, there is almost always a fail safe somewhere to release the pressure manually so it doesn't take so much strength to open, in case god forbid the worst happens, i work with heavy equipment like skid loaders and excavators so i know a thing or two about it:)
Also, am I the only one who thinks that certain spells should be restricted from this AP? Specifically spells like Disable Construct and Feeblemind. Both are spells that would allow PC's to functionally one-shot a lot of otherwise scary enemies in the adventure. (Disable Construct against robots, Feeblemind for the Technic League.) And they're not simply save or lose, they're both "roll really high on the die or lose." I bring this up in the message board for Lords of Rust because Disable Construct is a spell that has a half-decent chance of allowing the party to just murder Hellion (for GM's who don't like to fudge the dice).
@captain yesterday
Even when the doors slide into the ceiling when opened?
@Nakteo
Yeah disable construct might be a problem, a serious one, thankfully it's only on the wizard's and bard's spell list and it's a touch spell.
I wouldn't worry about feeblemind in this AP any more that i would worry in RotRL, and i wasn't really worried then because my players know that if their wizard start using nuclear weapons then the enemy wizards will also start using nuclear weapons, it's a M.A.D. thingy.
thats what i'm talking about, a small switch hidden somewhere on the door or next to it that might release the pressure from the hydraulics or whatever they have, you know so they open easily in case the power is out and a quick escape is needed:)
it could even be a small fail safe on the frame of the door, something in a corner thats easily (for the original crew not the PCs) flipped to allow a quick evacuation:)
i guess the point i was making is with hydraulics, there is almost always a fail safe somewhere to release the pressure manually so it doesn't take so much strength to open, in case god forbid the worst happens, i work with heavy equipment like skid loaders and excavators so i know a thing or two about it:)
Other locking mechanisms?
Edit: Basically, having to worry about a Lock as well as the opening mechanism.
What I was saying is when the power goes out there would be a way to release the hydraulic pressure (if they use hydraulics that is) of the the doors, just a way to rationalize using disable device, nothing more:)
@Nakteo
I wouldn't worry about feeblemind in this AP any more that i would worry in RotRL, and i wasn't really worried then because my players know that if their wizard start using nuclear weapons then the enemy wizards will also start using nuclear weapons, it's a M.A.D. thingy.
Unfortunately, I've played with people who don't consider such turnabout to be fair play and will complain loudly if it is employed. My solution is to just remove the obvious nuclear weapons before they can be used, and talk to players when and if they decide to invent new ones.
What I was saying is when the power goes out there would be a way to release the hydraulic pressure (if they use hydraulics that is) of the the doors, just a way to rationalize using disable device, nothing more:)
And I understood that, what I mean is if there is a lock in addition to that?
D'oh! Sorry!
@captain yesterday
Even when the doors slide into the ceiling when opened?@Nakteo
Yeah disable construct might be a problem, a serious one, thankfully it's only on the wizard's and bard's spell list and it's a touch spell.
I wouldn't worry about feeblemind in this AP any more that i would worry in RotRL, and i wasn't really worried then because my players know that if their wizard start using nuclear weapons then the enemy wizards will also start using nuclear weapons, it's a M.A.D. thingy.
Exactly what magic is disrupted in the robot that endows it with life?
I dunno, Clarke's Third Law is pretty powerful.
Well,the spell isn't called Clarke's Disable Construct.
What i'm trying to say is you don't need to restrict the spell.Playing it RAW is probably enough.There is even a single target for it in Lords of Rust.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that certain spells should be restricted from this AP? Specifically spells like Disable Construct and Feeblemind. Both are spells that would allow PC's to functionally one-shot a lot of otherwise scary enemies in the adventure. (Disable Construct against robots, Feeblemind for the Technic League.) And they're not simply save or lose, they're both "roll really high on the die or lose." I bring this up in the message board for Lords of Rust because Disable Construct is a spell that has a half-decent chance of allowing the party to just murder Hellion (for GM's who don't like to fudge the dice).
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You can make a melee touch attack to send a pulse into the target, interfering with the magic that endows it with life. If the construct fails its saving throw, it becomes helpless for the duration of the spell.
magic?? what magic? robots aren't magic.
Might require bluff check though.
magic?? what magic? robots aren't magic.
My group has started into Lords of Rust, but just prior to setting off for Scrapwall there was a rather interesting development.
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That was a bit long, but it now leaves me wondering how Meyanda changes book 2. For my group at least, she is not quite an ally yet, but she is certainly going to abandon her initial plan to...
This is an interesting problem. I might also run into it. I was thinking that Meyanda would be maybe reluctant to return to the Scrapwall, as she would be recognised to easily and the trip would end up in her certain death.
My group has started into Lords of Rust, but just prior to setting off for Scrapwall there was a rather interesting development.
** spoiler omitted **
That was a bit long, but it now leaves me wondering how Meyanda changes book 2. For my group at least, she is not quite an ally yet, but she is certainly going to abandon her initial plan to...
I perhaps should have noted earlier Meyanda doesn't actually know why the connection was severed
Difference being,in my Iron Gods Meyanda was metaphorically talked to death.
So she knows exactly why her connection was severed.She did it!My point being,in any case,killing off Meyanda is a waste of good character.
When interrogating the Smilers at the beginning, the text says you can get information from them with an appropriate Intimidate Check or Diplomacy DC 34. Though the DC for getting info through Intimidate is 10 + HD + Wis Mod, so for the Smilers, that's a DC 13. Am I thinking about this incorrectly?
What are the main factions of scrapwall, my wife has an idea for an Elf scraper from there.
i dont need a lot of info just the basics to get her started, i'll be getting Lords of Rust next weekend:)
What are the main factions of scrapwall, my wife has an idea for an Elf scraper from there.
i dont need a lot of info just the basics to get her started, i'll be getting Lords of Rust next weekend:)
As of about a year before Adventure Path starts,Steel Falcons(badass martial artists and strongest gang around),Smilers(crazy cannibals),Redtooth's Raiders(oldest gang,ratling-only),and Lords of Rust&Thralls of Hellion(enemies).
Also it's assumed that there is a few smaller gangs,but they are not as important.
thanks!
from the sound of her character it would seem she's going for an Elven Tank Girl:)
archaeologist with technologist feat:)
thanks!
from the sound of her character it would seem she's going for an Elven Tank Girl:)
archaeologist with technologist feat:)
Sounds like someone who went into Srapwall already trained and with specific goal in mind.
I have a similar situation.Leader of my PCs is gal who hails from Wasteland Rangers,made-up Alkenstar scout organization.Gives a good excuse to have a fair hand with technology.
nope, she is a self-taught scrapper, not every class has to go to a university to learn their thing they do:)
real life and knowledge handed down from generation to generation are the best schools sometimes:)
nope, she is a self-taught scrapper, not every class has to go to a university to learn their thing they do:)
real life and knowledge handed down from generation to generation are the best schools sometimes:)
"You know nothing Jon Snow."
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Everything I know about Game of Thrones I learned from South Park and skimming Grantland, so not much:)
nope, she is a self-taught scrapper, not every class has to go to a university to learn their thing they do:)
real life and knowledge handed down from generation to generation are the best schools sometimes:)
"You know nothing Jon Snow."
did you get a hair cut there Guy, you look different.. can't put my finger on it....
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Everything I know about Game of Thrones I learned from South Park and skimming Grantland, so not much:)
It's a bit of a running gag, When Jon Snow think he know/has figured something, there is a certain character who keep telling him that line. Eventually, he end up telling himself that.
So I'm running Iron Gods on story-based leveling up, where the players just level up when they reach a certain milestone in the campaign, so I'm not worried about XP. That being said, would it be feasible to simply skip Aldronard's Grave and have the party just move on to Scrapwall? I'm thinking about doing this partly because a player of mine has to leave the game in mid-December, and we're hoping to finish Book 2 before he has to leave, so I feel like I should cut some corners.
Alternatively, what are your guys' suggestions for perhaps modifying the encounter at Aldronard's Grave to where things are a bit more condensed there? Say, the Sarenites are actually not attacked until the PCs actually enter so combat with the Smilers is reduced to only a single encounter?
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Either that, or have the Smiler's assault on Aldronard's Grave fail. The paladins there took some captives, and since the party has questions for Scrapwall natives, they'd be happy to let them interrogate them. I'd definitely drop the DC 34 to get info, if not remove the need for a roll entirely. I think the purpose, besides handing out some more XP, is to let the PCs know what they're getting into in Scrapwall.
Either that, or have the Smiler's assault on Aldronard's Grave fail. The paladins there took some captives, and since the party has questions for Scrapwall natives, they'd be happy to let them interrogate them. I'd definitely drop the DC 34 to get info, if not remove the need for a roll entirely. I think the purpose, besides handing out some more XP, is to let the PCs know what they're getting into in Scrapwall.
I should probably also note that not only did they keep Meyanda alive, they plan on redeeming her. That, and one of the PCs is from Scrapwall and has only come to Torch in the past year or so.
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I think I am going to have tons of fun with Hellion.
"Look at you, barbarian, a pa-pa-pathetic adventurer of meat and bone, raging and panting trough my dungeon corridors"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOFZ5fv_pb8
I was going to keep the SHODAN quotes for Unity. Seems more appropriate (though I have not read the last adventure).
So... what's the damage modifier for a large chainsaw?
Had a fighter get enlarged and then I realized there was no translation for 3d6's medium to large.
I'm guessing it's 3d8? or 2d12?
Unfortunately the only guideline we have it's the improved natural attack feat, if we go by that then a large chainsaw does 4d6.
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Smiler gunslingers have bullets but no black powder. I'm assuming the 'gunsinger pistol' so they might be metal cartridges.
I already passed this encounter and just assumed they burned what black power they had on their shots.
Should take 1 dose of black powder + bullet to fire them since I had that come up on other games. Some GMs handwave the black powder cost (since it makes each shot 11 gp) but it's usually the price you play as a gunslinger.