What D&D campaign setting would you like to see converted for Pathfinder?


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LMPjr007 wrote:
I have to say I am NOT surprised that Ravenloft and Dark Sun are so popular campaign setting (I was inspired to do Obsidian Apocalypse because of that same information). But, I am surprised there we SO MANY Spelljammer and Planescape fans out there. While they are considered to be "dead" niche categories, the interest is still strong.

WotC threw so many awesome settings under the bus with 3rd edition. When Spelljammer came out it was a breath of fresh air in an atmosphere polluted with Middle-Earth wannabe #TLA-17839-h. I was ready to throw money at a 3rd edition Spelljammer but WotC didn't want it so I moved on. I would have done the same for a 3rd edition Planescape but, agian, WotC didn't want my money. I've gamed extensively in the Forgotten Realms since 1st edition but stopped buying the materials after 2nd edition since all my friends already had the books anyway. I stopped buying anything out of the basic core books with 3rd edition since my favorite settings were declared "dead." I stopped playing D&D with 4th edition and I wouldn't give WotC a bent penny after the atrocity that is the post-3rd edition Forgotten Realms.

Now I throw my money at Paizo and Pathfinder. I love Golarion and can't wait to adventure there! In the meantime, I am combining the pulp, noir and advanced magitech of Eberron with the sailing ships in space of Spelljammer. Magepunk in Spaaaaace!

One day I'll work on updating Forgotten Realms to Pathfinder so I can play there again.

TL;DR - Those setting were only "dead" to WotC. People have been screaming for those settings to be updated to the last 3 editions of D&D.

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The one setting that I know is popular but which I'd rather not see people throwing time and money at when it could be used elsewhere is Dragonlance. The books were great but there isn't actually much that's unique about the setting from a gameplay perspective, and a lot of that can be ported in to better and more dynamic worlds. I think the only thing I'd really want to see in a new setting is draconians; racist caricature elves with sticks up their bums, gully dwarves and kender can all go die in a fire.

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Too late, dude. Kender killed off halflings and took their place. Happened in 2000.


1. Birthright. I echo the earlier sentiment that this is one of the most underrated Game Worlds TSR ever created.
2. Dark Sun. I never played it much, but I love the concept.
3. Greyhawk. Criminally underdeveloped compared to FR.
4. Lankhmar. Need I say more?

Food for thought: Dragonlance, but ONLY if Weis and Hickman are involved. Otherwise forget it.
Food for thought Part II: Mystara, but again, I think you'd have to have Bruce Heard involved since he poured so much of himself into that setting.


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justmebd wrote:
Food for thought Part II: Mystara, but again, I think you'd have to have Bruce Heard involved since he poured so much of himself into that setting.

Not sure if you've seen this, but he's working on a new setting.

Cheers!
Landon


Dark Sun
Birthright
Spelljammer
Ravenloft

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Landon Winkler wrote:
justmebd wrote:
Food for thought Part II: Mystara, but again, I think you'd have to have Bruce Heard involved since he poured so much of himself into that setting.

Not sure if you've seen this, but he's working on a new setting.

Cheers!
Landon

Thanks!

I kicked in for that back in January and now am patiently waiting for delivery, which should be in the next week or so.


Ebberon,
Planescape,
Ravenloft

Although if Planescape and Ravenloft are converted they would most likely loose the persona they had. I enjoy running old(2E) Ravenloft stuff that is updated/used.

But Ebberon would be a perfect fit for Pathfinder. I know my friend would kill for a PF Warforged Artificer.


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So, after reading through the thread and hearing Louis' teasers, I think I have a better understanding of the goal. It also radically changes my previous answers. -- Prepare for rampant speculation & opinion-waving... in 3... 2... 1....

First off, I love the idea of riffing off an "Infinite Crisis"/parallel universe concept. Coincidentally, my primary Pathfinder campaign started in Golarion but I wanted to give Midgard a try. My players wanted to migrate over fully to Midgard but some of the players preferred their original Golarion-based characters. A short "let's do it like the DC multiverse" discussion later and several alternate versions of the Golarion counterparts manifested in Midgard -- Win-Win!

For this kind of project to work, however, the contrasts have to be significant enough to notice/matter. So if the baseline is going to be say, Greyhawk, you're throwing out Forgotten Realms, and Kalamar most likely.

If the AP is going to conclude with a new setting, ala a "converged multiverse" event - where a new setting is born from the outcome (I LOVE this concept, by the way!) it's going to need to be sustainable -- DC has used these events as an attempt (you can argue the successfulness) of cleaning up setting continuity. So if you include something too gonzo, it's likely going to need to be dialed way back in the new timeline. IMO, if you don't do this, you're just creating a niche/flash-in-the-pan setting and not something that will last. So it would make sense to throw out some of the more "out there" settings as endgame results -- Ravenloft, Dark Suns, Eberron, Planescape, etc. However, the culmination of the new setting can't just be a new version of the original. Gonzo/niche doesn't last & won't receive the support it should to become a setting people will care about. I certainly don't need another "interesting, but I'll never run it" setting in my RPG library.

All that taken into account, here are my 4:

Greyhawk - the baseline

Azeroth - this is a setting built around world-shaking conflicts but has far richer cultural detail than FR & it's ham-fisted Realms-shaking events. The setting also supports shades-of-gray/truth-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder style conflicts. This could also stand in for Greyhawk as the baseline. The only reason I don't lead with this one is due to the world-shaking conflicts.

Scarred Lands - I love the backdrop, the gods, titans, and races. Tailor-made high-fantasy conflict. The setting, itself, however is an utter mess. If ever a setting needed a canon-cleansing reboot and was worth the effort, this is the one.

Midnight - You get to play off the Tolkein-vibe, you get to have your horror & march-of-evil/post-apoc that Dark Suns can provide. Dark Sun comes in at #2 choice but may not be dark enough.

And the culmination of these 4 in a brave, new, campaign setting: A setting that comfortably sits somewhere between Conan's swords-n-sorcery Hyboria and an Azeroth/Scarred Lands high-fantasy. Embrace the Pathfinder races & D&D roots but create distinctive CULTURES so it's not just another generic fantasy setting but not so gonzo that it's a barrier to entry for new players.

Settings excluded:
Kalamar - as much as I love it, it's more grounded environment doesn't lend itself to a universe-shaking AP event.
Ravenloft - take the RPG-horror elements and re-season. The whole Demiplane of Dread shtick doesn't work as the "new world" birthed from the AP. Honestly, the horror-kitchen-sink / patchwork setting of the demiplane never really works well anyway. I know it has it's fans but unless the AP is culminating in a downer outcome, it can't be the final world.
Eberron - take elements for seasoning the new setting.
[bb]Dark Sun[/b] - use a region to take the best elements for seasoning. Combine with Azeroth-style orcs and Midnight and you've basically got your own version of Mordor.
Spelljammer - out. Just out. You're already juggling multiple worlds/universes. Don't clutter it up further with planet-hopping.
Planescape - obviously, I can see an argument for this one with a world-hopping AP. The issue with it is, the focus needs to be on the worlds, not the planes. If Planescape stuff is included, my mind immediately sees it going to the confusing/nonsensical backstory and filler pages in comics like CoIE, Zero Hour, Onslaught, etc. Age of Apocalypse was cool; reading about how Magneto & Xavier merged somehow is crap.

If the goal is to arrive at a gonzo-style setting as the end product, then all 4 picks should fall in that category.

I can appreciate why Louis framed the original question as he did. By determining which settings resonate best, he and the writers (assuming all licensing/permissions fall into place) can then focus on what elements to take from each setting. From a fan-perspective, however, it's probably easier to call out what setting elements are favorites than trying to pit settings as a whole against each other.

Best of luck with the project. I'll be looking for the Kickstarter and additional info.


BPorter wrote:
First off, I love the idea of riffing off an "Infinite Crisis"/parallel universe concept. Coincidentally, my primary Pathfinder campaign started in Golarion but I wanted to give Midgard a try. My players wanted to migrate over fully to Midgard but some of the players preferred their original Golarion-based characters. A short "let's do it like the DC multiverse" discussion later and several alternate versions of the Golarion counterparts manifested in Midgard -- Win-Win!

I am hoping we can pull this off in a way that you will get to travel to several 3PP campaign setting where you will be able to get a feel and understanding for them. There are so many cool campaign setting that people don't know about and never played it.


If existing 3pp settings are to be used, my picks are vastly different than they were previously. I would go with:

1. Midgard
2. Amethyst
3. NeoExodus
4. Thunderscape or Kaidan

I would also use the Collosseum Morpheuon as the hub/staging ground/home base of the PCs.

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Ken Pawlik wrote:

If existing 3pp settings are to be used, my picks are vastly different than they were previously. I would go with:

1. Midgard
2. Amethyst
3. NeoExodus
4. Thunderscape or Kaidan

I would also use the Collosseum Morpheuon as the hub/staging ground/home base of the PCs.

Thunderscape is already done....


BPorter wrote:
If the AP is going to conclude with a new setting, ala a "converged multiverse" event - where a new setting is born from the outcome (I LOVE this concept, by the way!) it's going to need to be sustainable -- DC has used these events as an attempt (you can argue the successfulness) of cleaning up setting continuity.

Honestly, we are looking o do this and find a way to make all of this converged multiverse material completely 100% OGL where any 3PP can use it in their setting.

BPorter wrote:
So if you include something too gonzo, it's likely going to need to be dialed way back in the new timeline. IMO, if you don't do this, you're just creating a niche/flash-in-the-pan setting and not something that will last. So it would make sense to throw out some of the more "out there" settings as endgame results -- Ravenloft, Dark Suns, Eberron, Planescape, etc. However, the culmination of the new setting can't just be a new version of the original. Gonzo/niche doesn't last & won't receive the support it should to become a setting people will care about. I certainly don't need another "interesting, but I'll never run it" setting in my RPG library.

We are planning for it to me a campaign setting that is 100% OGL and people can use to add and pick and choose what they want to do with it. Wouldn't that be cool to have?


1.Dragonstar
2.Dragonlance
3.Gama World
4.Mystara

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What made Greyhawk so special for me was Living Greyhawk and having specific game locals tied to specific regions of our world. Despite being quite the liberal tree-hugger, I loved RPing in Gran March where my characters were part of a rigid militaristic society. It was also a lot of fun to physically travel to other regions to play their adventures. To me, that really encouraged investment in each region from each player base. I'd love to see something like this done with Forgotten Realms, and I might even consider (oh the horrors) spending money on D&D 5 if they decided to go that route.


1.Eberron
2.Mystara
3.Scarred Lands
4.Ravenloft


1. Forgotten Realms - from Time of Troubles to Return of Bane, inclusive
2. Planescape
3. Dragonlance - Age of Dreams or War of the Lance
4. Council of Wyrms
5. Dark Sun (know it has been done)

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PLANESCAPE FTW!!!!!!!! GREYHAWK FTW!!!!!!!

LONG LIVE PLANESCAPE!!!!!!!! LONG LIVE GREYHAWK!!!!!

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The Human Diversion wrote:
What made Greyhawk so special for me was Living Greyhawk and having specific game locals tied to specific regions of our world. Despite being quite the liberal tree-hugger, I loved RPing in Gran March where my characters were part of a rigid militaristic society. It was also a lot of fun to physically travel to other regions to play their adventures. To me, that really encouraged investment in each region from each player base. I'd love to see something like this done with Forgotten Realms, and I might even consider (oh the horrors) spending money on D&D 5 if they decided to go that route.

Me too!!! Also heard they might rerelease spell jammer and planescape for 5e (hopefully tony ditterlizzi can do the art for planescape if it is rereleased)


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Fake Healer wrote:
Ken Pawlik wrote:

If existing 3pp settings are to be used, my picks are vastly different than they were previously. I would go with:

1. Midgard
2. Amethyst
3. NeoExodus
4. Thunderscape or Kaidan

I would also use the Collosseum Morpheuon as the hub/staging ground/home base of the PCs.

Thunderscape is already done....

@Fake Healer - you missed Ken's point, I think. If Louis' proposed Adventure Path will visit existing 3PP's Campaign Settings, those are Ken's choices - they are all "already done".


Oceanshieldwolf wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:
Ken Pawlik wrote:

4. Thunderscape or Kaidan

I would also use the Collosseum Morpheuon as the hub/staging ground/home base of the PCs.

Thunderscape is already done....
@Fake Healer - you missed Ken's point, I think. If Louis' proposed Adventure Path will visit existing 3PP's Campaign Settings, those are Ken's choices - they are all "already done".

Quoted for truth! I got the Thunderscape setting as a Kickstarter backer and quite enjoy it barring a couple of the new classes and races.

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Dragonlance
Ravenloft
Planescape

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Did somebody say 'Maztica' or 'Native American'?

Well, at least here's some Mini's you can use for your Maztica game...

You just missed the Rise of Draconids KS by anti matter games

Quite a lot of aztec like minis there as well. And I can attest they are of very good quality


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Spelljammer: The concept of D&D in Space is one that rocked my world back in 2E and is one I want to see expanded in Pathfinder. Dragonstar is a version of Spelljammer to me.

Mystara/Red Steel: Lupin and tortles as PC races, 'nuff said

Eberron: Changeling and Warforged are the best ideas in here and the spirit of pulp adventure that permeates the setting. The machinesmith is an improved version of an artificer in my book.

Iron Kingdoms: I love steam punk and don't like what Privateer Press has done to the setting now with their own system. I will convert what I have to Pathfinder before I buy anything of the new version of Iron Kingdoms.

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Yeah, Iron Kingdoms as well. I wish that they hadn't gone in the direction that thy did with their IP.

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It's not a conversion as it was never done as a setting, but I'd think that Marvel Pathfinders would absolutely rock.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/clinton-boomer/marvel-pathfinders-the-age-of -strange/10150245209058509


Birthright. And Spelljammer. And Birthright. Planescape too, though I'd imagine most of the stuff like factions aren't OGL. Also, Birthright.

Did I mention Birthright?


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I have seen a few people mix spelljammer and planescape together which isn't too much of a stretch. This is just my opinion but putting those two together is kind of like mixing chocolate and peanut butter. I mean with SJ you have a vessel that travels the vastness of outer space, however you might want to define that, so giving this vessel the ability to travel to the astral or shadow planes or even the lower and upper planes for that matter is not that big of a stretch in my mind or a deal. Now somehow add in time travel into the mix and you have something resembling the Pathfinder version of Dr. Who, which is not necessarily a bad thing all things considered.


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LMPjr007 wrote:

I am working on something for future release and I wanted to get feedback from the Pathfinder fanbase: What four (4) D&D campaign setting would you like to see converted for use in Pathfinder? Edition doesn’t matter just the setting. Thanks!

1. The very excellent, but highly underrated BIRTHRIGHT.

2. Eberron.

3. Mystara (TSR topside).

4. Planescape?

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