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This is an issue that's been bugging me for a little while now, but I can't think of a really good way to fix it.
The "general-purpose" polymorph spells (Polymorph, Greater Polymorph, and Shapechange) allow you and others to assume a variety of forms. Polymorph appears to allow you to assume the 4th-level and lower shapeshifting spells, GP allows the 6th-level and lower spells, and Shapechange allows the ones from 8th-level and lower.
My problem is that these three spells are core, and were created before the existence of spells like vermin shape, undead anatomy, and monstrous physique. Logically, I would assume that these should be added to the lists of subsidiary spells using the guidelines above, since equally fantastic things like giants, dragons and elementals are fair game - but they never were, at least not officially. And if new form-changing spells get added in the future - like outsider, ooze, fey or aberrations - these will be similarly left out in the cold, so just adding the specific new options to the polymorph/shapechange lists may not solve the problem going forward.
The big issue I have is particularly with Polymorph and GP; these are the only spells that allow a spellcaster to actually buff another member of the party (someone on the frontline) with a shapeshifting spell. Touching the fighter and turning him into a dire tiger, or turning the rogue into a viper, are just fun for everyone involved. I would love it if vermin, monstrous humanoid and undead forms were available to them too.
TL;DR - is there a chance of getting the core multiform spells updated with subsequent shapeshifting options?
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heh if you are the dm/gm, you can just add it if you want. Not like it matters much quite frankly.
My group tend to be RAW-sticklers but I may be able to swing it.
I did find this after some digging: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l7ns&page=155?Ask-James-Jacobs-ALL-your-Qu estions-Here#7715
I guess that's as "official" as I'm going to get.
Also this:
Here's how I would work it.
The following spells of the polymorph type can be used to cast the Ultimate Magic spells indicated. Any spell that can cast one of the following spells can also be used to cast the spells listed under it.
Polymorph
- Monstrous Physique II
- Undead Anatomy I
- Vermin Shape I
Polymorph, Greater
- Monstrous Physique IV
- Undead Anatomy III
- Vermin Shape II
Shapechange
- Monstrous Physique IV
- Undead Anatomy IV
- Vermin Shape II
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Not exactly on-topic, but relevant to your interests: Polymorph Rewritten.
Not exactly on-topic, but relevant to your interests: Polymorph Rewritten.
Oh Snap! A great way to do the deed! Is it going to be in the P store?
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Yes, it will be. :)
I do not see the book in question in the store. Is it not available anymore?
Are you referring to my Polymorph Rewritten book? If so, it has been sidetracked by my work on the Five Moons RPG. Sorry about that!
I'm looking forward to the Polymorph Rewritten myself, it sounds like something long overdue.
Ya I was.
Don't apologize, you consistently put out amazing things. If something has to be delayed then so be it.