Is this change to the website intentional?


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The various links right at the top of the page are now stacked vertically, whereas they used to be horizontal across the top of the page. (Hello, Steve Geddes | Sign Out | My Account |... and so forth).

I've kind of been assuming it's a glitch that will be fixed soon (I think it changed to that format a week or two ago) but now I'm wondering if it's a change.

I get a similar thing if I follow a users profile (posts, threads, private messages, etcetera are all piled one above the other, rather than side by side as they used to be).


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The layout has not changed for me, using Firefox 29.0.1, so it might be an issue at your end. Or it could be an odd site bug hitting your browser configuration, so providing that info might help the Paizo staff track it down if it's something on their end.


Ah, okay thanks. I'm using Internet Explorer. "About Internet Explorer" yields the following:

Version 9.0.8112.16421
Update Versions 9.0.29

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Steve Geddes wrote:

Ah, okay thanks. I'm using Internet Explorer. "About Internet Explorer" yields the following:

Version 9.0.8112.16421
Update Versions 9.0.29

You are probably browsing the site in compatibility mode which basically makes it IE7. There should be a little icon in your address bar that shows a page cut in half. If you click that it should change how the site renders and it should look a lot better. =)

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Steve Geddes wrote:

Ah, okay thanks. I'm using Internet Explorer. "About Internet Explorer" yields the following:

Version 9.0.8112.16421
Update Versions 9.0.29

Internet Exploder...

Really...? ;-)


Lissa Guillet wrote:
Steve Geddes wrote:

Ah, okay thanks. I'm using Internet Explorer. "About Internet Explorer" yields the following:

Version 9.0.8112.16421
Update Versions 9.0.29

You are probably browsing the site in compatibility mode which basically makes it IE7. There should be a little icon in your address bar that shows a page cut in half. If you click that it should change how the site renders and it should look a lot better. =)

That worked a treat. I must have turned compatibility mode on somehow a few weeks back.

Thanks, Lissa. :)


Gorbacz wrote:
Steve Geddes wrote:

Ah, okay thanks. I'm using Internet Explorer. "About Internet Explorer" yields the following:

Version 9.0.8112.16421
Update Versions 9.0.29

Internet Exploder...

Really...? ;-)

Learning new software makes me stress. Same reason I can't use a mac properly. :o


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Steve Geddes wrote:
Learning new software makes me stress. Same reason I can't use a mac properly. :o

To be fair, there's very little to learn with an alternate web browser. There's an address bar, there's a forward button, there's a back button, and (these days) there's nothing else.

Also, it's easy to dabble... there's nothing stopping you from using IE and (say) Firefox both. When you're in a hurry and for some reason you can't figure out how to do X, fall back on IE.

Personally I mostly use Firefox all the time, with a bunch of (free) Addons that make life a lot nicer. NoScript, AdBlock, and a half-dozen others make the web much less annoying. The down side is that some of those need to be "trained". So new web sites often appear broken to me. I know how to temporarily lower security to see what's causing it, then make the minimal changes permanent. But that's me, deliberately trying to make my experience ideal. You don't need to do any of that.


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At some times I had up to three browsers installed (chrome, ft, opera, ie deliberately disabled by firewall) and used all of them. Actually I might have fourth browser installed, I think... What was the fourth, though... I can't remember now.


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Drejk wrote:
At some times I had up to three browsers installed (chrome, ft, opera, ie deliberately disabled by firewall) and used all of them. Actually I might have fourth browser installed, I think... What was the fourth, though... I can't remember now.

Telnet. 'Cuz real nerds render raw HTML in their head.


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I'm mildly surprised there's someone here who knows what telnet is. :-)


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Anguish wrote:
Drejk wrote:
At some times I had up to three browsers installed (chrome, ft, opera, ie deliberately disabled by firewall) and used all of them. Actually I might have fourth browser installed, I think... What was the fourth, though... I can't remember now.
Telnet. 'Cuz real nerds render raw HTML in their head.

Nope. And I won't qualify as a real nerd according to this definition.

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Ed Reppert wrote:
I'm mildly surprised there's someone here who knows what telnet is. :-)

Really? How else are you supposed to get to a MUD.


Anguish wrote:
Steve Geddes wrote:
Learning new software makes me stress. Same reason I can't use a mac properly. :o

To be fair, there's very little to learn with an alternate web browser. There's an address bar, there's a forward button, there's a back button, and (these days) there's nothing else.

Also, it's easy to dabble... there's nothing stopping you from using IE and (say) Firefox both. When you're in a hurry and for some reason you can't figure out how to do X, fall back on IE.

Personally I mostly use Firefox all the time, with a bunch of (free) Addons that make life a lot nicer. NoScript, AdBlock, and a half-dozen others make the web much less annoying. The down side is that some of those need to be "trained". So new web sites often appear broken to me. I know how to temporarily lower security to see what's causing it, then make the minimal changes permanent. But that's me, deliberately trying to make my experience ideal. You don't need to do any of that.

I appreciate the comments. I might try again someday. However, my usage of computers is extremely fraught - I dont install or upgrade programs (pretty much ever) I just use whatever comes on the box until I get the next computer, unless something actually stops working, in which case I get somebody in. There's no way I'd be up to using add-ons - I've had bad experiences with 'improving my web browsing experience' and then being unable to get rid of the resultant ads, pop-ups and other annoyances.

As technology advances, it seems to me there's this push to offer more and more options when what would actually suit me would be less and less options. There's also this strange obsession with 'innovating' whereas I want my version 6 to look exactly the same as my version 1 did. :(


Lissa Guillet wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
I'm mildly surprised there's someone here who knows what telnet is. :-)
Really? How else are you supposed to get to a MUD.

You see, THAT's the kind of software I remember. Why did they have to get all fancy-pants? Bring back the park command, I say.


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hehehe.

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And then people are surprised when posts like 'hello, I check my email once per month using Internet Explorer 4' appear.


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Hey, at least I've stopped printing them out to read now.

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I bet you did out of the love for the environment, not technological progress! ;)


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Nah, Stave's just saving printer's cartridge. ;)


Steve Geddes wrote:
I appreciate the comments. I might try again someday. However, my usage of computers is extremely fraught - I dont install or upgrade programs (pretty much ever) I just use whatever comes on the box until I get the next computer, unless something actually stops working, in which case I get somebody in. There's no way I'd be up to using add-ons - I've had bad experiences with 'improving my web browsing experience' and then being unable to get rid of the resultant ads, pop-ups and other annoyances.

Fair enough, but I reiterate; having two (or more) browsers on your computer is as easy a dabble as could possibly be. It's like having a can of Coke and a can of Pepsi in the fridge. Drink whichever you want, whenever you want... they have nothing to do with one another. And if you turn out to like one more than the other, you can just stop drinking the "wrong" one.

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As technology advances, it seems to me there's this push to offer more and more options when what would actually suit me would be less and less options. There's also this strange obsession with 'innovating' whereas I want my version 6 to look exactly the same as my version 1 did. :(

I hear you. I'm still running Office 2003 on my modern system because... button ribbon... bite me. I still have a command prompt open at all times because the GUI isn't always faster.

There's an interesting trend in the last two years to remove UI, which I'm personally finding incredibly annoying. It's not just removing options, it's literally removing interface. Here's an example. You visit kickstarter.com and tell me exactly where to click to search for a project. Your first instinct because of their brain-dead UI is going to be to click on the magnifying glass. It won't work. Eventually you'll discover you need to click on the text "Search projects". See, if that input field had the historically typical shaded box around it, you'd have cues which would guide you to try it first. Instead, it's just plain text on white, which you expect to be a label. Windows 8 and Office 2013 and a bunch of other modern software is moving that way and it's driving me nuts. They're removing as much feedback from the interface as possible, reducing formerly usable platforms into iPads.


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Drejk wrote:
Nah, Stave's just saving printer's cartridge. ;)

Dujh. Sorry, Steve.


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Does this mean its time to upgrade the dot matrix printer?


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Almost managed to fit the entire internet on my microfiche…. Almost...

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Lissa Guillet wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
I'm mildly surprised there's someone here who knows what telnet is. :-)
Really? How else are you supposed to get to a MUD.

I miss good MUDs

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There are still several out there. Gemstone still exists and it's still expensive. Materia Magica still exists but I kinda have a bit of a feud with the dude that runs it. One of our employees is still pretty big into a mud but I can't remember the name of it. If you look, they are out there. Mud Connect is still available.

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Lissa Guillet wrote:
There are still several out there. Gemstone still exists and it's still expensive. Materia Magica still exists but I kinda have a bit of a feud with the dude that runs it. One of our employees is still pretty big into a mud but I can't remember the name of it. If you look, they are out there. Mud Connect is still available.

Islands of Myth!

We are very small these days (we used to break the top 20 on top mud sites), but there's A LOT of content to explore and some pretty consistent groups that play. The husband and I may have taken a day off to participate in the double exp day a few weeks back...

It's all free, very stable, and the newbie chat is more than happy to help you out!

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Andrew Betts wrote:
Lissa Guillet wrote:
Ed Reppert wrote:
I'm mildly surprised there's someone here who knows what telnet is. :-)
Really? How else are you supposed to get to a MUD.
I miss good MUDs

Hell, I miss good BBSes.

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