5e is what we deserve!


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Reddit posters have nailed it.

"This is the D&D we deserve."

Yes, I concur. It's the D&D we deserve. :) WotC finally got it right this time.


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And if it tanks, we have only ourselves to blame.

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EltonJ wrote:

Reddit posters have nailed it.

"This is the D&D we deserve."

Yes, I concur. It's the D&D we deserve. :) WotC finally got it right this time.

No, the only complaint with dnd was it was too easy for your pc to progress...that had to do with one thing: the xp progression tables. Instead of earning five thousand experience points to progress to second level wizard you need four hundred xp (or three hundred as is the case with 5e).

If you want to make it harder for pcs to progress to the next level, all you need do is create a new exp progression table that suits your campaign. Its simple. Wizard must kill a thousand goblins to achieve second level. That smells like a major campaign against the goblins of the rhur caves. Talvin the red spends a month scribing sleep spells as one shot tattoos on his body in preparation for the ultimate goblin battle.


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But is it the D&D game we need? ;p

(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)


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EltonJ wrote:

Reddit posters have nailed it.

"This is the D&D we deserve."

For doing what?

Dark Archive

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300 or 5000 xp, does it really matter? All that really matters is the number of encounters it represents. In 3.5 it was 13 1/3, and in 4e it was 10. Pathfinder bumped it up to 20 if you use the medium progression.

Grand Lodge

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EltonJ wrote:
Reddit posters...

Aren't those the same guys who were going to crowd-source figuring out who the Boston Bombers were?

-Skeld


Meh... Not all that impressed myself. I'll probably buy it and farm it for the juicy bits, but that's about it. It is better than 4e, I'll give you that.


I find that it scratches an itch only low level 3.5 or Pathfinder have done and it does.it far better than either of them (barring E6 style games). Its a fun system when were taking breaks from our 4e campaigns (something Next will probably never replace).


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EltonJ wrote:

Reddit posters have nailed it.

"This is the D&D we deserve."

Yes, I concur. It's the D&D we deserve. :) WotC finally got it right this time.

Sorry, everything after "Reddit was right" sounded like a big foghorn.


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You make it sound like a punishment, which may be how some might see it.


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Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:
You make it sound like a punishment, which may be how some might see it.

I did picture Jon Lovitz in Little Nicky: "I deserve this! I deserve this!"

Silver Crusade

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I'm pretty sure truecore 4E fans might have a different opinion ;-)


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EltonJ wrote:

Reddit posters have nailed it.

"This is the D&D we deserve."

Yes, I concur. It's the D&D we deserve. :) WotC finally got it right this time.

MM is not here yet.

DMG is not here yet.

No APs. No OGL. (yet?)

Hold your horses, dude.
Don't let the pretty pictures go to your head.

Regards,
Ruemere

Shadow Lodge

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ruemere wrote:
No APs. No OGL. (yet?)

Whether or not it has an OGL has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the system.

And there have been quite a few adventures released already. Some written by two of the best 3PP in the business, even (Kobold Press and Frog God Games). The Frogs are also putting out a monster book, an adventure collection, and a book of spells.

Shadow Lodge

ruemere wrote:
Don't let the pretty pictures go to your head.

So, why are you playing Pathfinder instead of Trailblazer?


Kthulhu wrote:
ruemere wrote:
Don't let the pretty pictures go to your head.
So, why are you playing Pathfinder instead of Trailblazer?

1) Uncalled for dis. (Also: unlike your implication, K, rumere's doesn't indicate the system is bad with nice pictures, only that a "wait and see" approach is better and it has pretty pictures. In case this tries to go to, "But he did it!" territory.)

2) Because it's a fun game (to me). Heck, I didn't much like the art when I started playing it. It grew on me, though.

That said, I'd happily hear more about Trailblazer?


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Tacticslion wrote:


That said, I'd happily hear more about Trailblazer?

Bad Axe Games home of Trailblazer


I am not a fan of cantrips, but I can live with them. I enjoy the simplicity of the game. I am not a fan of the builder culture that has developed in the last few years.


Thanks, R_Chance!

EDIT: Also, I don't use it because 1) I only heard of it now, and 2) I don't have Paypal or Amazon. Not really planning on getting either. Looks awesome, though. :)


ruemere wrote:
No APs.

False. Hoard of the Dragon Queen is out now which rolls into Rise of Tiamat.

Shadow Lodge

I just assume people mean adventures when they say they want APs. I know there are some hardcore Paizo cheerleaders here, but I find it hard to believe that even they would outright reject a great adventure merely because it's self-contained, and not published over the course of six months by six different authors.


Arnwolf wrote:
I am not a fan of the builder culture that has developed in the last few years.

That honestly comes more from the rise of organized play and the internet than anything in the third edition ruleset, from what I've seen. It's almost an absolute must in those environments, but most people I know that only play in home games and rarely look at the internet tend not to follow that same kind of pattern, at least not routinely.

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