Question about Infiltrator Inquisitor


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I want to make an inquisitor that looks like he's working for the good guys but he isn't.

The alignment thing got me started on this but I'm coming up with a problem when it comes to holy symbols. Is this going to give me away or is there another option. Right now I'm just planning on not picking spells with DF but some of those spells would be handy.


Upon seeing your holy symbol it is likely anyone would be able to identify what god you worship with a know(religion) check of less than or equal to DC 10 (which anyone can make unless they have an int penalty).

It would probably give you away to your party pretty quickly.

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Claxon wrote:

Upon seeing your holy symbol it is likely anyone would be able to identify what god you worship with a know(religion) check of less than or equal to DC 10 (which anyone can make unless they have an int penalty).

It would probably give you away to your party pretty quickly.

Which is precisely why I am worried. Would a holy symbol tattoo work, hidden under clothes or maybe displaying another symbol while the real one is a small charm or trinket I wear or attached to my weapon?


Perhaps you can disguise it in another holy symbol or in a fancy design on your coat? I don't believe it actually glows or otherwise appears odd. Or perhaps get a permanent silent image overlay? Maybe invisibility? The usage of holy symbols in casting divine spells isn't 100% blatantly clear cut and can probably do with some GM interpretation.


mcbraggart wrote:
Which is precisely why I am worried. Would a holy symbol tattoo work, hidden under clothes or maybe displaying another symbol while the real one is a small charm or trinket I wear or attached to my weapon?

I think there is a trait that gives you a birthmark that can be used as a holy symbol. Otherwise I would go to the GM with your concept. Depending on what he and your god think about it he might allow something special like using a fake holy symbol or one of another god that is modified so that it displays characteristics of your god that are not immediately visible. Holy symbols don't have really detailed or logical rules. For example yesterday I found a feat that allows a divine spellcaster to turn his weapon or shield into a holy symbol. I don't get what keeps me from just nailing my holy symbol to my shield.

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With a decent Bluff skill, you might be able to fool allies into thinking that birthmark holy symbol causes you much grief and regret.

My PFS inquisitor of Norgorber has his holy symbol stitched into a hood as a mask, which he only pulls down when battle starts.

And unlike Channel Energy, the rules on divine focuses don't say it has to be presented. So you may check with your GM on the possibility of having a false holy symbol that you present to the world, while having your real holy symbol inscribed on the back where it's harder to see.

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RainyDayNinja wrote:
With a decent Bluff skill, you might be able to fool allies into thinking that birthmark holy symbol causes you much grief and regret.

Can't really spare the trait but at lvl 1 my bluff is +15 for people to believe things which are believable/want to belive.

So to save the money or a tattoo (which is costly at lvl 1), I'll say my holy symbol is hidden in design of another holy symbol.

Iomadae has a sword and sun motif, it wouldn't be too difficult to turn the sun into a spider shape for Rovagug. And if anyone questions the not perfect sun shape, BLUFF.


mcbraggart wrote:
Claxon wrote:

Upon seeing your holy symbol it is likely anyone would be able to identify what god you worship with a know(religion) check of less than or equal to DC 10 (which anyone can make unless they have an int penalty).

It would probably give you away to your party pretty quickly.

Which is precisely why I am worried. Would a holy symbol tattoo work, hidden under clothes or maybe displaying another symbol while the real one is a small charm or trinket I wear or attached to my weapon?

As a GM, I would probably tell you that the holy symbol has to be visible. But you could interweave it into another god's holy symbol. Though obviously there would be a perception check or knowledge check or some sort of check to notice that something is wrong with it. This sort of thing isn't actually covered in the rules to my knowledge.

For my games though, I wouldn't allow this sort of deception anyway because of the problems it can create between characters (and players).

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I'm not going a PVP route, just going to a bit reckless and "smite" things all in the name of "justice". It's more of a roleplay hook.

he's a sweet and innocent looking assimar that looks and detects as lawful good but he's really a wanton source of destruction. It's about as harmful PVP wise as a reckless barbarian with more RP potential.


mcbraggart wrote:

I'm not going a PVP route, just going to a bit reckless and "smite" things all in the name of "justice". It's more of a roleplay hook.

he's a sweet and innocent looking assimar that looks and detects as lawful good but he's really a wanton source of destruction. It's about as harmful PVP wise as a reckless barbarian with more RP potential.

And, I might consider that as a GM, if you told all the players. The characters still wouldn't know, but springing something on your fellow players isn't something I like (as a GM or player).

I've definitely played it too many campaigns where someone hides an important facet of their character which comes out an can only end with a character leaving the party/dying etc. Because of my experiences with this I simply don't allow it.

But this isn't really a rules issue, so I'm not going to continue harping on about it further.

In any event, to accomplish the sort of thing you are wanting to do you will need to talk to your GM about it. Out of character, I encourage you talk to your GM and fellow players about what you are doing.

There is plenty of role play opportunity that doesn't require that players to unaware, and makes for a lot less potentially hurt feelings.

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