Dylos |
In this post, John Compton ruled that a character could change gender as long as barring the use of transmutation magic it took place before the scenario.
Drawing upon that ruling, would it be possible to have two nearly identical (Say half identical) twins to be the same character. Now before you say no, hear me out, as I have a few ground rules that the character would follow.
1. They do not switch during a scenario or module.
2. They have exactly the same stats, class, skills, feats, etc. Only name and gender differ.
3. Regardless of the fact that they are a pair of twins, they still only have 1 life, if they die I don't get a free raise dead.
I want to additionally add, that I could already make a character that changes gender and assumes a different identity when they change gender, the only difference here being that I'm saying that the character is a pair of twins rather then someone with a multiple personality disorder.
pH unbalanced |
I think the way that I personally would do it is to leave it undefined as to whether your character was actually different siblings, or a single person who believed zie was hir own sibling. (I might also expand it so that there were originally triplets or more, at least one of whom is verifiably dead, just to make it all a little more...open.)
LazarX |
It would not be legal at all. Fraternal twins aren't the same person, they aren't even the natural clones that identical twins are.
And there's also the issue of character death or permanent disability to be brought up here. A logical statement could be made that the surviving twin would be able to take over from a twin that had been permanently lost to the Society.
So, no.
Auke Teeninga Regional Venture-Coordinator, Baltic |
Dylos |
You could instead make 2 identical characters, except for name/gender etc.
It's kinda like playing slow track except that small differences will start creeping in.
That is a possibility, or I could make a single kitsune with realistic likeness and show up as a different human during every scenario.
If it was two identical characters aside from name/gender/pfs number then I would have to make sure they stayed at the same xp more or less, though there would be a difference of gold, prestige, boons, and item access, likely ultimately making the ability to tell them apart easier.
pH unbalanced |
I'm fairly certain the Kitsune ability only turns you into a single specific form, not whatever form you want.
You are correct about the base ability, but there is a feat that lets you expand that to (attempt to) become any human.
Dylos |
Kenji Elindir wrote:I'm fairly certain the Kitsune ability only turns you into a single specific form, not whatever form you want.You are correct about the base ability, but there is a feat that lets you expand that to (attempt to) become any human.
At least any human you yourself have come into contact with.
So you could for example, get woken up by Drendle Dreng and be told to report to Shelia Heidmarch, and when you report to Shelia Heidmarch you look like Drendle Dreng, there you meet Kyra and the next mission you show up as Kyra or Shelia Heidmarch.
Dazz |
Correct on the whole realistic likeness thing, but back to the original question.
The only real problem I can see on the twins character is you could confuse the GM who's reporting it if you're going as a different name than what's connected to your character number. Then you're also going to have GMs who say you can't do that (likely quoting the 3 things you mentioned originally--but not everyone is gonna take your word for it).
That said, as a flavor thing it wouldn't really be a problem--you have all the same stats, you're not going to argue for free "extra life" etc. Similarly to what someone mentioned above, the easiest way to go about it is to claim, in character, that you're not the person the party was told would be coming, you're actually their twin--whether or not you decide it's true.
Dylos |
The only real problem I can see on the twins character is you could confuse the GM who's reporting it if you're going as a different name than what's connected to your character number.
The character's name on the sign in sheet doesn't have to be the same as the name I give to the other players, and the name of the alias on the paizo forums could include both names. For example, let's say the twins were named Bob and Sue and their last name was Porter, the alias could be Bob/Sue Porter, though that may lead to even more confusion.
Majuba |
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You might choose a name that can be pronounced different ways to differently indicate gender, to avoid reporting issues. Or just something like a feminine first name, masculine last name.
I do find the idea of two separate characters played the same interesting.
Edit: Not applicable here, but just imagined identical twins, playing identical twins, but only rarely together - keeping them roughly in sync.
RainyDayNinja RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 |
Dazz wrote:The only real problem I can see on the twins character is you could confuse the GM who's reporting it if you're going as a different name than what's connected to your character number.The character's name on the sign in sheet doesn't have to be the same as the name I give to the other players, and the name of the alias on the paizo forums could include both names. For example, let's say the twins were named Bob and Sue and their last name was Porter, the alias could be Bob/Sue Porter, though that may lead to even more confusion.
You could just name them both Darryl.
kinevon |
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Dylos wrote:You could just name them both Darryl.Dazz wrote:The only real problem I can see on the twins character is you could confuse the GM who's reporting it if you're going as a different name than what's connected to your character number.The character's name on the sign in sheet doesn't have to be the same as the name I give to the other players, and the name of the alias on the paizo forums could include both names. For example, let's say the twins were named Bob and Sue and their last name was Porter, the alias could be Bob/Sue Porter, though that may lead to even more confusion.
I think Larry would object, he already has his AC, Darryl, and his riding mount, Darryl.
pH unbalanced |
I suppose I could also try to do half-identical twins with a summoner and their Eidolon, though the Eidolon is likely to be very different then their summoner.
Could probably build a pretty convincing Undine with the Aquatic eidolon base.
I'm very seriously considering making a Kitsune Evolutionist Summoner whose Eidolon would be a small fox.
And then, at 8th level, have the Kitsune take Fox Form, and the Eidolon change to the Kitsune's Human form.
Just because.
Dragnmoon |
I'm very seriously considering making a Kitsune Evolutionist Summoner whose Eidolon would be a small fox.
And then, at 8th level, have the Kitsune take Fox Form, and the Eidolon change to the Kitsune's Human form.
Just because.
The only problem with that is that the Eidolon would be a very Alien looking Fox and Kitsune and obviously not either.
Charon's Little Helper |
That reminds me of a campaign that I was half DM for. My buddy & I neither really wanted to be full time DM - so we shared a single character back & forth. Whoever wasn't DMing played him. A character with multiplicity personality disorder. (amusingly enough - that character was my only PC kill ever as a DM)
Evigail 'Seaweed' Brandiday |
Dazz wrote:The only real problem I can see on the twins character is you could confuse the GM who's reporting it if you're going as a different name than what's connected to your character number.The character's name on the sign in sheet doesn't have to be the same as the name I give to the other players, and the name of the alias on the paizo forums could include both names. For example, let's say the twins were named Bob and Sue and their last name was Porter, the alias could be Bob/Sue Porter, though that may lead to even more confusion.
That would be my suggestion. You could even give the character 12 names and roll a d12 at the beginning of every scenario.
I have never seen another character's gender on a character sheet. I just don't look that closely at it. That said, I am very careful to keep his/her/him pronouns out of Seawead's language, when I play this cleric. :)
pH unbalanced |
pH unbalanced wrote:The only problem with that is that the Eidolon would be a very Alien looking Fox and Kitsune and obviously not either.I'm very seriously considering making a Kitsune Evolutionist Summoner whose Eidolon would be a small fox.
And then, at 8th level, have the Kitsune take Fox Form, and the Eidolon change to the Kitsune's Human form.
Just because.
Absolutely true. Also, the Eidolon would still have an intelligence of 7, Charisma 11, and no skill in Bluff whatsoever. It would fool *nobody*.
"Good morning, fellow Pathfinder. I am your human comrade. Have you seen our Venture Captain today? I understand he will be giving a briefing soon. My extremely ordinary familiar -- I mean, *I* would hate to miss it."