I'm playing a Rogue Tiefling with a long, thin tail. The character uses a hand crossbow, daggers, and a jacketed sap. My question is, if i have the prehensile tail feat, can i use said tail to reload the hand crossbow as a free action instead of a move-equivalent action? I keep a bolt case on my hip that assumedly the tail could draw bolts from and nock the crossbow. That being the case, does this render other such feats that skirt the costs of a move action, such as quick draw, (to draw the sap or a throwing dagger) useless?
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You can however hold a hand crossbow in the tail and reload it with your hand... making the inability to reload moot.
You can however hold a hand crossbow in the tail and reload it with your hand... making the inability to reload moot.
"moot" means debatable, I think the word you were looking for is "irrelevant"
Moot: of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
Moot: of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
Not just that. That's a regional definition.
moot
mo͞ot/Submit
adjective
1.
subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty, and typically not admitting of a final decision.
"whether the temperature rise was mainly due to the greenhouse effect was a moot point"
synonyms: debatable, open to discussion/question, arguable, questionable, at issue, open to doubt, disputable, controversial, contentious, disputed, unresolved, unsettled, up in the air More
NORTH AMERICAN
having no practical significance, typically because the subject is too uncertain to allow a decision.
"it is moot whether this phrase should be treated as metaphor or not"
verb
verb: moot; 3rd person present: moots; past tense: mooted; past participle: mooted; gerund or present participle: mooting
1.
raise (a question or topic) for discussion; suggest (an idea or possibility).
"Sylvia needed a vacation, and a trip to Ireland had been mooted"
synonyms: raise, bring up, broach, mention, put forward, introduce, advance, propose, suggest More
noun
noun: moot; plural noun: moots
1.
BRITISH
an assembly held for debate, especially in Anglo-Saxon and medieval times.
a regular gathering of people having a common interest.
2.
LAW
a mock trial set up to examine a hypothetical case as an academic exercise.
"Mooted" would however be appropriate, since it would mean that the relevant discussion had been finished and it is not irrelevant.
Moot point - A debatable question, an issue open to argument.
Actually, I changed my mind. I'm going with:
making the inability to reload an assembly held for debate, especially in Anglo-Saxon and medieval times.
No prong999, it was meant in the way I posted. Of little or no practical value or meaning. You know, the exact same thing you suggested: irrelevant.
And Ipslore the Red, I know it has more meanings but I didn't see the point of listing ones that clearly weren't what was meant by the original poster of the word. The American definition isn't limited to 'too uncertain' issues but also covers those that have no practical value.
I realize I may have come across as a jerk, I apologize. Graystone and Isplore both have very good points. And, the way Mojorat used the word can fit what he meant to say using Graystone's definition.
The only reason I brought it up was that I frequently see people use a word that while they may fit the phrase, it seems like the person using them doesn't realize what it means. "moot" is one of those words that seems to fall in that category.
I realize I may have come across as a jerk, I apologize. Graystone and Isplore both have very good points. And, the way Mojorat used the word can fit what he meant to say using Graystone's definition.
The only reason I brought it up was that I frequently see people use a word that while they may fit the phrase, it seems like the person using them doesn't realize what it means. "moot" is one of those words that seems to fall in that category.
Much like when someone says "that begs the question", and what they mean is that it leads one to ask, which is of course not at all what begging the question means.
This is the internet; sadly, expecting proper use of language here is a lost cause.
Much like when someone says "that begs the question", and what they mean is that it leads one to ask, which is of course not at all what begging the question means.
This is the internet; sadly, expecting proper use of language here is a lost cause.
That's not at all condescending /end sarcasm
There is nothing wrong with using the vernacular meaning of a word or phrase, and railing against it comes across as pedantry.
To seem condescending was the point.
Sorry, couldn't help it. :P I was trying to affect the tone of a language stickler in the previous post, in an effort to satirize the idea.
In reality, I don't mind when people use a word or phrase with an alternate or not technically correct meaning, although calling such usage "vernacular" seems a bit of a stretch. It is a bit disappointing though, to think that a poster using the internet to post cannot also use it to check that words or phrases do in fact mean what the poster thinks they mean. C'est la guerre.
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I'm playing a Rogue Tiefling with a long, thin tail. The character uses a hand crossbow, daggers, and a jacketed sap. My question is, if i have the prehensile tail feat, can i use said tail to reload the hand crossbow as a free action instead of a move-equivalent action? I keep a bolt case on my hip that assumedly the tail could draw bolts from and nock the crossbow. That being the case, does this render other such feats that skirt the costs of a move action, such as quick draw, (to draw the sap or a throwing dagger) useless?
Your question is one of action economy.
Unless there is a feat/trait that I don't know, using a tail to do something don't change your action economy. Reloading a hand crossbow stay a move action. That action is changed by the other feats you cited.The only advantage of having a tail is that you can hold the hand crossbow in it while reloading.
I have a warpeiest of nocticula in PFS. Longsword light shield hand crossbow. I had identified there might need to be juggling to do the reload even though one limb can always hold things only one can do the reloading . It never came up though.
As for the point above I was referring to a moot point.
So if the prehensile tail can do nothing but retrieve items, is it then a free action to place the tail item into an empty hand? If so, the racial trait essentially just changes the "retrieve a stored item" action from a move action to a swift action under most circumstances. I guess if you were really starved for swift actions and free hands you could retrieve one round and place in an empty hand on another. In theory maybe the tail could hold a divine focus too?
It can hold a divine focus fine can retrieve one too.