how does a reincarnated guy deal with race feats


Rules Questions


If I start out as a elf reincarnated druid, and I die and come back as anything other than elf, can I still take a racial feat like "attuned to the wild" or one of it's follow ups like "guardian of the wild"?


By RAW, you are no longer that race, so not only can you not take those feats, if you already have a racial feat, it stops working.

This is why 99% of racial feats suck.


I'd hesitate to say they suck just because of one spell.


Odraude wrote:
I'd hesitate to say they suck just because of one spell.

Agreed. Though if you are going to plan on being reincarnated it would be advisable to not take racial feats.


They suck because 99% of them have no reason to be racially restricted. This spell just highlights it.


Zhayne wrote:
They suck because 99% of them have no reason to be racially restricted. This spell just highlights it.

Also true.


Zhayne wrote:
They suck because 99% of them have no reason to be racially restricted. This spell just highlights it.

Depends on the feat. I am going to lean towards a trait for this, but the general principle still applies (since it shows what can happen for specifically designed features when they get moved around by things like the adopted trait)- The Tusked Trait for Orcs and Half Orcs.

After seeing a half-orc raised catfolk barbarian for the N-th time (do they even raise their own kind? Are they just pets for half orcs?) I have come to generally agree with the logic of race restriction. Because I cannot imagine how a catfolk learns the art of growing dagger sized teeth from their face.

Now, I can certainly understand that you might wish to expand certain options to other races with similar backgrounds and motifs (Oreads getting Dwarf stuff, for example), but letting it go unrestricted leads to.... problems.


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lemeres wrote:
After seeing a half-orc raised catfolk barbarian for the N-th time (do they even raise their own kind? Are they just pets for half orcs?) I have come to generally agree with the logic of race restriction. Because I cannot imagine how a catfolk learns the art of growing dagger sized teeth from their face.

Sabre-tooth catfolk!


Reincarnate doesn't remove racial traits or grant them, per RAW. You also would keep any feats you had that depended on race. Per the spell:

"A reincarnated creature recalls the majority of its former life and form. It retains any class abilities, feats, or skill ranks it formerly possessed. Its class, base attack bonus, base save bonuses, and hit points are unchanged. Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution scores depend partly on the new body. First eliminate the subject's racial adjustments (since it is no longer necessarily of his previous race) and then apply the adjustments found below to its remaining ability scores."

Spell specifically says you keep feats and only says you eliminate the racial adjustments and then grant the new stated adjustments (which are only physical ability score adjustments.


Wheldrake wrote:
lemeres wrote:
. . . Because I cannot imagine how a catfolk learns the art of growing dagger sized teeth from their face.
Sabre-tooth catfolk!

Agreed. Do not hate on the children of Bast. They should have claw and fang without resorting to chicanery.

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