Easy darkness question


Rules Questions


Human is in darkness (normal vision), standing next to a ghoul (who has darkvision).

1. Is the ghoul considered to be invisible?
2. Is the human considered to be blinded?
3. If neither of these are correct, what penalties would apply to the human and what bonuses for the ghoul?


To quote the core rulebook: "In areas of darkness, creatures without darkvision are effectively blinded."

Sczarni

Blind Condition wrote:
The creature cannot see. It takes a –2 penalty to Armor Class, loses its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), and takes a –4 penalty on most Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks and on opposed Perception skill checks. All checks and activities that rely on vision (such as reading and Perception checks based on sight) automatically fail. All opponents are considered to have total concealment (50% miss chance) against the blinded character. Blind creatures must make a DC 10 Acrobatics skill check to move faster than half speed. Creatures that fail this check fall prone. Characters who remain blinded for a long time grow accustomed to these drawbacks and can overcome some of them.


The ghoul gets a +2 to attacks.

For the purpose of your question I am assuming it is completely dark.

Grand Lodge

wraithstrike wrote:

The ghoul gets a +2 to attacks.

For the purpose of your question I am assuming it is completely dark.

The ghoul gets +2 to attacks and the defender gets a -2 penalty to AC (in addition to everything else)? They're effectively the same, and while both can happen, I don't see anything in this scenario that would give the ghoul +2 to attacks.


claudekennilol wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:

The ghoul gets a +2 to attacks.

For the purpose of your question I am assuming it is completely dark.

The ghoul gets +2 to attacks and the defender gets a -2 penalty to AC (in addition to everything else)? They're effectively the same, and while both can happen, I don't see anything in this scenario that would give the ghoul +2 to attacks.

When you are invisible the other person is effectively blind against you, so you get a -2 to attack, which is the same as a +2 to attack.

However looking at the blind condition I guess it does matter which why I write it.

Sczarni

Stating that the Defender is at -2 is the more correct answer, since if they have Blind Fighting they no longer suffer that penalty.

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