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Andius, had you explained *why* your experience mattered, it might have worked out better for you. Just a tip for future reference, the statement "I have experience, therefore I'm right" doesn't carry much weight. "I have experience, this is what I saw and how it relates to the current situation" carries a lot of weight. Your goal to take that position was a decent one, but your reasoning was largely "because I said so". Several of us advanced V or W as a compromise position, but you seemed unwilling to advocate for such a good position. And had you remained on the council and said "We have a split between the SE mountains and with being near the Spiral. The militarily wise choice is to go with the Spiral." I'm pretty sure that is where TEO would be.
I sincerely wish you happiness in your relationship and success with the Sentinels. I also hope that some day your bitterness and anger dissipates and you are able to move forward from the experience and grow from it.
Best of luck!
Alexander Damocles
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Andius, had you explained *why* your experience mattered, it might have worked out better for you. Just a tip for future reference, the statement "I have experience, therefore I'm right" doesn't carry much weight. "I have experience, this is what I saw and how it relates to the current situation" carries a lot of weight. Your goal to take that position was a decent one, but your reasoning was largely "because I said so". Several of us advanced V or W as a compromise position, but you seemed unwilling to advocate for such a good position. And had you remained on the council and said "We have a split between the SE mountains and with being near the Spiral. The militarily wise choice is to go with the Spiral." I'm pretty sure that is where TEO would be.
I sincerely wish you happiness in your relationship and success with the Sentinels. I also hope that some day your bitterness and anger dissipates and you are able to move forward from the experience and grow from it.
Best of luck!
Alexander Damocles
Could this be the true hidden agenda? Andius broke off from TEO, joined the only group that wound give him the freedom to run his own thing, wait for Thod's group to break into the top ten (losing hunker down bonus), then swoopibng in on the last day of week 10 with 60 members of TEO and seizing "V", all under the name of the Sentinels and all fingers of damnation will point to UNC!
What a brilliant master stroke that would be! I bet this plot was hatched in the not yet revealed 3rd version of the Treaty of Rovagug, signed only with two signatures: Andius and Bluddwolf. Then the name if the unNamed will finally be known to all.
if you think this sort of thing is not possible, keep thinking that way, the we will drink your tears!
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Could this be the true hidden agenda? Andius broke off from TEO, joined the only group that wound give him the freedom to run his own thing, wait for Thod's group to break into the top ten (losing hunker down bonus), then swoopibng in on the last day of week 10 with 60 members of TEO and seizing "V", all under the name of the Sentinels and all fingers of damnation will point to UNC!
What a brilliant master stroke that would be! I bet this plot was hatched in the not yet revealed 3rd version of the Treaty of Rovagug, signed only with two signatures: Andius and Bluddwolf. Then the name if the unNamed will finally be known to all.
if you think this sort of thing is not possible, keep thinking that way, the we will drink your tears!
You underestimate my brilliant deviousness. Really I was working for UNC all along. See, I was the initial UNC scout sent to PFO with the mission to build a group that would draw all UNCs enemies together, then forge a bitter rivalry between them when UNC finally arrived. Once my mission was done I just couldn't resist being with my UNC brethren any longer. How's that for deep cover?
Ooh, time to tread lightly here. Gotta put on my best diplomacy face.
Hey guys,
Lets remember to stay classy and not post about divorces or calling out peoples parenting skills. This is not what these forums are for regardless of how passionate you are about the situation.
Thank you,
<3
You underestimate my brilliant deviousness. Really I was working for UNC all along. See, I was the initial UNC scout sent to PFO with the mission to build a group that would draw all UNCs enemies together, then forge a bitter rivalry between them when UNC finally arrived. Once my mission was done I just couldn't resist being with my UNC brethren any longer. How's that for deep cover?
Ah, but you see, the River Kingdoms are purgatory...and I'm the Devil.
Okay, serious time. Thanks for posting this, Andius. If you don't mind my asking, I noticed this line in particular:
[TEO's position was] an ultimately undefendable one given the inevitable build up of chaotic groups around Thornkeep and evil groups around Fort Inevitable that will take place, and the sure placement of the major good-aligned settlements toward Riverwatch to the North as can already be seen starting to happen with both Talongaurd and Ozem's Vigil.
Considering the current prevalence of good in the south and evil/chaos in the north (and keeping in mind that a good portion of that is perhaps because of the TEO stuff), would you say that this specific reason might have proven less of an issue than anticipated?
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@ Andius
What about all the people in TEO/T7V that had nothing to do with this? Some of whom I'm sure you recruited and weren't there for the decision? We are all lumped together in this hatred when there were but a few who did things that hurt or upset you. I don't think I have personally ever really had a conversation with you, even though I joined T7V before you left TEO. I am still KOS because I associate with people that upset you. I don't actually have a problem being KOS to anyone but T7V and TEO as a whole seem to be the wrong targets for your KOS policy. You know there are good people in both groups. Why not just keep your anger to those you feel directly wronged you and not try to create an "open season" view on all who are a part of these groups?
You are of course welcome to do as you wish, it will be your game to play just as it is ours but, it's a game to have fun in, hopefully not hold grudges in RL about. What you have said about TEO/T7V members just sounds like someone who intends to grief anyone with that tag or affiliation in game. By all means fight with us in game if there is a legitimate reason, but don't use your passion and emotion generated by your loss of your guild against all us others who never harmed you. Don't make it your mission (as it seems to be) to ruin the fun for all T7V/TEO members when it is just a few who you hate.
I personally am totally fine with you treating me as KOS, that is fun for me. I like PVP and hope to improve through interactions like that but I know there are a lot of others who it won't be anything other than you trying to ruin their fun because of the settlement they live in and who never even knew about what happened.
My 2 copper.
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And we are risking sailing into another series of flame wars. Gird your patience and resist the urge to take things personally. Having the last word does not mean that you have the best word, and those who judge based on they who spoke last as opposed to the merits of a post are not really the type of folks you need to be concerned about whose side they are on anyways.
The thread was started, I believe, with a mission of clarity and self-explanation. I do not feel we need to take this way of locked threads and deleted posts. Friends and foes alike, I beseech you, think before you hit submit.