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Also, there were a couple of recent threads that I only paid passing attention to.

Didn't mean I wasn't furiously googling Christina Hoff Sommers and other prominent contemporary feminists, though.

Ran across this old article that I thought I'd share.

JSoc: Obama's secret assassins--The president has a clandestine network targeting a 'kill list' justified by secret laws. How is that different than a death squad? by Naomi Wolf


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Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:
Christina Hoff Sommers and other prominent contemporary feminists

Christina Hoff Sommers is not a feminist. She is a right-wing nutter funded by neocon think-tanks to go around spreading antifeminist lies.


So its only imperialism when the US does it? What's different about isis taking over the area militarily than the US doing so?


BigNorseWolf wrote:
So its only imperialism when the US does it?

No. It's also imperialism when France, Great Britain, Germany, a bunch of others, do it as well. Whether it is imperialism when Russia does it is still being hotly debated by the comrades. For the record, Israel isn't either.

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What's different about isis taking over the area militarily than the US doing so?

ISIS hasn't already killed over a million Iraqis in the past quarter century. The United States has.

F!$+ ISIS, two bit Islamic fundamentalist terrorists!
Smash US imperialism, world's biggest terrorists, enemy of the world's working class!
Vive le Galt!


Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
So its only imperialism when the US does it?
No. It's also imperialism when France, Great Britain, Germany, a bunch of others, do it as well. Whether it is imperialism when Russia does it is still being hotly debated by the comrades. For the record, Israel isn't either.

The neighborhood my grandmother grew up in was historically Italian, but if Rome rolled in and annexed parts of Chicago, it would still be imperialism.

Similarly, many of the former Soviet satellite states are historically Russian, but a ground invasion of any of those now separate, sovereign states, should be rightfully seen as imperialist expansion by Russia.

I can't begin to imagine why Israel isn't imperialist though, other than perhaps your comrades are just as afraid of Zionists cracking their heads as Congress.


Well, as I say every time someone asks me whether something is imperialist or not, as Comrade BeeNee did, I respond:

"Lenin defined imperialism as:

1) The concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital and the creation, on the basis of this ‘finance capital,’ of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital, as distinguished from the export of commodities, acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves; and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed."

Now, it is quite possible that one might want to argue with that definition. But that's what you get when you ask the Marxist-Leninist: the Marxist-Leninist definition.

Israel doesn't qualify. Many phrases have historically been bandied about by the ultra-left (well, commies, anyway, I have no idea how anarchists define these things) to attempt to define Israel--"apartheid state", "colonial-settler state," "imperialist client state," etc.--and the reason these various terms were thought up is because most of (I want to say "all" but I am sure there are exceptions) the ultra-left agrees that Israel doesn't meet the criteria for the Leninist definition of imperialism.

The debate among the ultra-left regarding possible Russian imperialism is not whether Crimea or any of the other former Soviet states in Russia's periphery are historically Russian, but whether Russia is an exporter of capital or an exporter of natural resources. Beats me, but I like the "Russia is not imperialist" argument, possibly, I admit, for its contrarian trollishness.

As Comrade Lunzie put it in The Ukraine Thingy thread, "Much like fascism, imperialism isn't just 'bad things' - it is a specific sort of bad thing." At least for us commies.

Either way, interesting commie link:

Syrian rebels overwhelmingly condemn US bombing as an attack on revolution

Smash US imperialism!

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